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Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
January 25 2011 23:41 GMT
#601
Lol because people are sheep. Mainstream music is a lot of rap now and sadly many people dont choose what they like they just look for whats popular and agree with that.
https://twitter.com/quanticfograw
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
January 25 2011 23:47 GMT
#602


The song/remix that originally made me realise I was a fucking idiot for looking down on hip hop before.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
January 25 2011 23:48 GMT
#603
I like Rap because i see unique individual talents everywhere, and just like in modern rock the commercialized garbage is very easy to disregard as such. People who DON'T like rap/hip-hop obviously have only heard the aforementioned commercialized garbage. For example:


and


are two completely different songs in two completely different styles. However, the common link is that they are both produced by independent artists and both (IMO) fucking amazing. People like Lil Wayne, Slim Thug, etc. are basically just big figureheads for terrible recycled beats and meaningless lyrics.
U Gotta Skate.
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 23:53:29
January 25 2011 23:53 GMT
#604
On January 25 2011 03:30 Lennon wrote:
Obvious hip hop versus metal troll thread.
To answer your question, people have different music tastes.


^

*****


OP, you are trying to make a statement about why people listen to what they do. We listen to what we want because we enjoy it.

This is pointless. Metal concerts are for metal-enthusiasts, Rap shows are for fans of hip-hop, Trance events are for trance and house fans.

We love "hip-hop/rap" (or any other genre for that reason) because it sounds good to us, we relate to it, we have a family member in the field, etc.

Fin.
C r u m b l i n g
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
January 25 2011 23:59 GMT
#605

On January 26 2011 08:48 ghermination wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKXp17Udsjk

Any amount of props I give you will not suffice. Holy shit that album is epic.
Get crunk
saliens
Profile Joined November 2010
United States10 Posts
January 26 2011 00:06 GMT
#606
As with any genre music, if one looks hard enough I guarantee you can find something that you like. I would never consider myself a rap fan yet there are certainly a few songs that find their way onto my playlists
[N3O]r3d33m3r
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany674 Posts
January 26 2011 00:07 GMT
#607
i dislike metal and many others do too, most of it just sounds like random noise to me
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
January 26 2011 00:14 GMT
#608
On January 26 2011 08:31 KvltMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 08:24 FragKrag wrote:
On January 25 2011 07:40 Elegance wrote:
You guys have obviously never heard of

Djent


good

because it's killing metal

Given the fact that metal has survived disco, pop, glam rock, grunge, hiphop, nu-metal, metalcore and techno, and given the fact that it's latest "competitor" is something as lame as kids ripping off Meshuggah... I wouldn't be too worried.


lame kids ripping off shitty music = bad music

killing metal
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
January 26 2011 00:16 GMT
#609
On January 26 2011 09:14 FragKrag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 08:31 KvltMan wrote:
On January 26 2011 08:24 FragKrag wrote:
On January 25 2011 07:40 Elegance wrote:
You guys have obviously never heard of

Djent


good

because it's killing metal

Given the fact that metal has survived disco, pop, glam rock, grunge, hiphop, nu-metal, metalcore and techno, and given the fact that it's latest "competitor" is something as lame as kids ripping off Meshuggah... I wouldn't be too worried.


lame kids ripping off shitty music = bad music

killing metal

as if that's never been done in greater scale before?
Get crunk
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
January 26 2011 00:23 GMT
#610
i dont like it when people say hip hop is bad and stupid and tuneless and the rappers are stupid and stuff. Its like me saying to a metal fan hey metal is just mindless shouting and tuneless guitar mashing. to the metal fan its simply not true. so to the hip hop fan, good hip hop has deep lyrics, slick and very well made beats. Theres a place in the genre for les acclaimed, catchy artists to make mainstream records with catchy hooks and pretty bad hip hop, but there are people like that in all genres. my theory is just live and let live, i dont see why there has to be a huge thread debating which is better
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
January 26 2011 00:25 GMT
#611
On January 26 2011 09:16 KvltMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 09:14 FragKrag wrote:
On January 26 2011 08:31 KvltMan wrote:
On January 26 2011 08:24 FragKrag wrote:
On January 25 2011 07:40 Elegance wrote:
You guys have obviously never heard of

Djent


good

because it's killing metal

Given the fact that metal has survived disco, pop, glam rock, grunge, hiphop, nu-metal, metalcore and techno, and given the fact that it's latest "competitor" is something as lame as kids ripping off Meshuggah... I wouldn't be too worried.


lame kids ripping off shitty music = bad music

killing metal

as if that's never been done in greater scale before?

It's never been as widely accepted in the metal community
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
January 26 2011 00:31 GMT
#612
On January 26 2011 09:25 FragKrag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 09:16 KvltMan wrote:
On January 26 2011 09:14 FragKrag wrote:
On January 26 2011 08:31 KvltMan wrote:
On January 26 2011 08:24 FragKrag wrote:
On January 25 2011 07:40 Elegance wrote:
You guys have obviously never heard of

Djent


good

because it's killing metal

Given the fact that metal has survived disco, pop, glam rock, grunge, hiphop, nu-metal, metalcore and techno, and given the fact that it's latest "competitor" is something as lame as kids ripping off Meshuggah... I wouldn't be too worried.


lame kids ripping off shitty music = bad music

killing metal

as if that's never been done in greater scale before?

It's never been as widely accepted in the metal community

In all honesty, the biggest bands in the genre (Periphery and Animals as Leaders) receive a hefty amount of flak. I also don't think that this genre will last long, simply because every single djent group sounds like every other djent group.

Don't worry about a genre, it'll always pull through. I definitely think the glam-era of rock was more damaging to metal than djent is, and it still didn't manage to bring it down.
Get crunk
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
January 26 2011 00:37 GMT
#613
Now, this is coming from a metalhead...

Not all metal is worth listening to. Most new metal fits into the category of terrible. Too many pop-rock outfits are trying to pass themselves off as metal bands, particularly in the U.S. European metal is the best, hands down. Metal is still as popular as ever. Most of the good stuff is just too heavy for the mainstream radio, and they'd rather play classic rock and popular rock than lose ratings.
Also, many metal bands employ drum-machines as an alternative to a human drummer. Not because they sound better, but because a drummer with tendinitis in his elbow is a sad sight to behold.

Oh, and there is a lot of good hip-hop and electronica. Listening to just one kind of music and holding prejudice against other genres is just simple-minded.
twitch.tv/duttroach
omg.deus
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Korea (South)150 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 01:21:58
January 26 2011 00:41 GMT
#614
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
January 26 2011 00:54 GMT
#615
music is music, anyone can listen to what they want. If you cry about it you are wasting your time. Everyone should listen to what they like and who cares if its good or bad you cant force people to like stuff YOU like who are you to decide that?
Regular people like love songs that remind them of having a good time. There is a conception that when you go to dance you have a good time that is why rap is getting a lot of attention you can dance to it. Rap is made for mass consumption. The star or Idol ideal that this "Artist" is gonna change the game, he is going to make money, fuck hoes and Party all the time is a big part of what the USA and this capitalist society is about.
Rap represents those capitalist ideals better than other genres that is why its so popular, it can have a huge and wider fan base than teenage punk pop and other kind of Radio friendly stuff which also you cant dance to. Thats why its so liked.

in The Kong line forever
McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
January 26 2011 01:07 GMT
#616
Hip-Hop is just the music of this decade. Every decade has a different style of music and it goes through phases. Just accept it for what it is. If you dont like hiphop then dont listen to it. It's becoming cooler now to not like mainstream things anyways.

Also...hiphop makes the booty shake and we all love that =D
If you can chill. chill. - Liquid'Tyler
MahatmaSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States192 Posts
January 26 2011 01:53 GMT
#617
My troll post did better than expected! Yay!
Team ZeNEX fighting!
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 03:18:39
January 26 2011 03:17 GMT
#618
i don't really call myself a metal-head, here is a list of what i listen to:

Strapping Young Lad (and Devin Townsend)
Dimmu Borgir
Vader
Meshuggah (Only a couple songs, they are not really that great :/)
Sevendust (I guess kinda like hardrock, but definitely probably my favorite band)

I also listen to shit like Vocal Trance (only like female voices) too.

I used to listen to rap and hip-hop, but you realize that 99% of them are talentless and are terrible. I've listened to a lot of rap, and the ONLY groups that I find that have talent are:
Eyedea & Abilities (RIP)
Saturday Morning Soundtrack

I wouldn't really call it rap though, it's more like poetry to me. I used to love Tech N9ne, Aesop, that type of shit, but really almost all of it is wack (now even moreso). Tupac is only popular because he got shot, and the main reason rap is shit IMO is because they make up all the shit in their songs. It's not hard telling a make believe story about selling crack and shooting people.

Here is an example of good gangter-rap, recorded straight from prison through the call box. The song was even used as evidence against him in court (he's in jail for murder):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGPheeLcNMQ
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
S.O.L.I.D.
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States792 Posts
January 26 2011 03:24 GMT
#619
On January 26 2011 12:17 Silidons wrote:

I used to listen to rap and hip-hop, but you realize that 99% of them are talentless and are terrible. I've listened to a lot of rap, and the ONLY groups that I find that have talent are:
Eyedea & Abilities (RIP)
Saturday Morning Soundtrack

I wouldn't really call it rap though, it's more like poetry to me. I used to love Tech N9ne, Aesop, that type of shit, but really almost all of it is wack (now even moreso). Tupac is only popular because he got shot, and the main reason rap is shit IMO is because they make up all the shit in their songs. It's not hard telling a make believe story about selling crack and shooting people.


You say you've listened to a lot of rap, but it doesn't seem like that from this post. I'm interested to hear what you've listened to and tried out.

Tupac is not popular because he got shot, he's popular because millions of people can relate to his struggle and he's an icon.

I hate the shit you hear on the radio, and yes a lot of that may or may not be false, but there is A LOT of really good shit out there if you try to find it.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
January 26 2011 12:05 GMT
#620
I reckon 90% of the people who claim to hate hip hop have heard only the factory made radio fodder of the genre. Real rappers know it's gotta be from the heart, cos if you wanna start to move up the chart, then expression is a big part of it. You ain't efficient when you flow, you ain't swift, movin' like a tortoise, full o' rigor mortis.

To make good music all you got to do is

'XPRESS YOURSELF

*dance dance dance*
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