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MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
December 11 2010 01:36 GMT
#341


Check this shit out... THIS IS FUCKING MUSIC :D
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
December 11 2010 01:38 GMT
#342
I remember when I went through my musical elitist metalhead phase. I grew out my hair and dressed in black and everything.

Long story short I listen to every genre now and believe that every genre has it's merits, it's pretty win, I no longer confine myself to a few genres and can really accentuate my mood now.
It's better to burn out than to fade away
Igakusei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States610 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 01:41:46
December 11 2010 01:39 GMT
#343
I don't know if anyone will even read this 17 pages in, but I'll throw my mostly meaningless opinion out there anyway:

I have NO idea why people like Rap/Hip-Hop. It seriously just makes me angry. It sets me on edge, and I mostly find the lyrics so shallow and stupid that I would go so far as describing them intellectually offensive.

What's the big attraction? Can someone who "gets it" explain it to me? It just bothers the shit out of me.

Edit: I'm not a huge fan of metal either, but I do like some of the stuff that at least has a recognizable melody. I listened to a lot of Metallica in high school. Some of their music fits this category.
keeblur
Profile Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
December 11 2010 01:39 GMT
#344
On December 11 2010 10:30 eLiE wrote:
I think Jon Lajoie explains the success of pop songs fairly well in this video :D



So true.
Isn't it ironic and selfish to say that God made man in his image, when God was made in man's image?
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 01:44:34
December 11 2010 01:44 GMT
#345
On December 11 2010 10:39 Igakusei wrote:
I don't know if anyone will even read this 17 pages in, but I'll throw my mostly meaningless opinion out there anyway:

I have NO idea why people like Rap/Hip-Hop. It seriously just makes me angry. It sets me on edge, and I mostly find the lyrics so shallow and stupid that I would go so far as describing them intellectually offensive.

What's the big attraction? Can someone who "gets it" explain it to me? It just bothers the shit out of me.


Saying that the lyrics are shallow and stupid is literally like saying that you hate books because they're dumb. Rap is a very diverse genre; there are many songs with deeper lyrics. Yeah, a lot of mainstream stuff is stupid, as is the case in every genre. Hating pretty much any genre is just ridiculous; there's always going to be stuff out there that you'll like.
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Zeller
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States1109 Posts
December 11 2010 01:47 GMT
#346
On December 11 2010 10:39 Igakusei wrote:
I don't know if anyone will even read this 17 pages in, but I'll throw my mostly meaningless opinion out there anyway:

I have NO idea why people like Rap/Hip-Hop. It seriously just makes me angry. It sets me on edge, and I mostly find the lyrics so shallow and stupid that I would go so far as describing them intellectually offensive.

What's the big attraction? Can someone who "gets it" explain it to me? It just bothers the shit out of me.

Edit: I'm not a huge fan of metal either, but I do like some of the stuff that at least has a recognizable melody. I listened to a lot of Metallica in high school. Some of their music fits this category.


That's kind of like saying nickelback is so shallow and the lyrics suck, i just dont get why people like rock music.

Gotta look deeper bro
Last.Epic , Epic[LighT]
Raskit
Profile Joined July 2009
579 Posts
December 11 2010 01:50 GMT
#347
On December 11 2010 10:39 Igakusei wrote:
I don't know if anyone will even read this 17 pages in, but I'll throw my mostly meaningless opinion out there anyway:

I have NO idea why people like Rap/Hip-Hop. It seriously just makes me angry. It sets me on edge, and I mostly find the lyrics so shallow and stupid that I would go so far as describing them intellectually offensive.

What's the big attraction? Can someone who "gets it" explain it to me? It just bothers the shit out of me.

Edit: I'm not a huge fan of metal either, but I do like some of the stuff that at least has a recognizable melody. I listened to a lot of Metallica in high school. Some of their music fits this category.


There are a ton of tracks throughout the topic to listen to. Your opinion is as shallow as the lyrics you appear to the believe the whole genre is comprised of.
agarangu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 01:53:41
December 11 2010 01:53 GMT
#348
Hip Hop is in USA what Reggaeton is in Chile .

Here in Chile flaites (chilean gangstas) listen to reggaeton. Also, flaites are EVERYWHERE. And they listen to reggaeton withOUT earphones.
So basically, you have to listen to that annoying music or use a music player of some kind, which they STEAL from you using knives and/or guns when they see your earphones.

I hate the freaking sound of reggaeton (TUUUM-taTUM-ta TUUUM-taTUM-ta TUUUM-taTUM-ta TUUUM-taTUM-ta TUUUM-taTUM-ta TUUUM-taTUM-ta TUUUM-taTUM-ta...) as it is the same in every single song.

So I understand how you feel. IMO Metal is the new classic music (in terms of the ability required to play it and the diversity and quality of the songs). But that's just me! xD
What's a quote anyway?
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
December 11 2010 01:55 GMT
#349
Just to post some good female hip hop so people see that that "genre" exists aswell and is awesome.

Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
VabuDeltaKaiser
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany1107 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 02:27:53
December 11 2010 01:56 GMT
#350
On December 11 2010 10:50 Raskit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2010 10:39 Igakusei wrote:
I don't know if anyone will even read this 17 pages in, but I'll throw my mostly meaningless opinion out there anyway:

I have NO idea why people like Rap/Hip-Hop. It seriously just makes me angry. It sets me on edge, and I mostly find the lyrics so shallow and stupid that I would go so far as describing them intellectually offensive.

What's the big attraction? Can someone who "gets it" explain it to me? It just bothers the shit out of me.

Edit: I'm not a huge fan of metal either, but I do like some of the stuff that at least has a recognizable melody. I listened to a lot of Metallica in high school. Some of their music fits this category.


There are a ton of tracks throughout the topic to listen to. Your opinion is as shallow as the lyrics you appear to the believe the whole genre is comprised of.

most of this thread is about people saying no, we like much more music than you think op, so un misspoken, people listen to a shitload of different music.
how amazing is that ?

whe should be happy we have different taste and apply to it as we are individual, just feel for the music we like and try to get from that as much we feel about it. also how others introduce new things to people who might LOVE it. isnt that a great idea ?
my smiley drinks green tea. works. just, the commercial investments are lower.
Igakusei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States610 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 02:07:29
December 11 2010 01:58 GMT
#351
On December 11 2010 10:44 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2010 10:39 Igakusei wrote:
I don't know if anyone will even read this 17 pages in, but I'll throw my mostly meaningless opinion out there anyway:

I have NO idea why people like Rap/Hip-Hop. It seriously just makes me angry. It sets me on edge, and I mostly find the lyrics so shallow and stupid that I would go so far as describing them intellectually offensive.

What's the big attraction? Can someone who "gets it" explain it to me? It just bothers the shit out of me.


Saying that the lyrics are shallow and stupid is literally like saying that you hate books because they're dumb. Rap is a very diverse genre; there are many songs with deeper lyrics. Yeah, a lot of mainstream stuff is stupid, as is the case in every genre. Hating pretty much any genre is just ridiculous; there's always going to be stuff out there that you'll like.


Perhaps I should clarify that what annoys me most about the Rap/Hip-Hop I have heard is the sound of the music itself. I generally don't even listen to music lyrics, so I'll freely agree that the lyrics I HAVE listened to or read were a mere drop in the pond. I'll see if I can find a few songs that I do like the sound of, and I'll post them here to see what you think.
LunarC
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1186 Posts
December 11 2010 02:03 GMT
#352
Good hip-hop is very lyrical and some sick beats don't hurt either.
Good metal, imo, is varied and musically/technically complex and really awesome to listen to.

I think hip-hop is more popular because of its popular image of being club music, thus perpetuating the party scene which is more popularly enjoyed than metal concerts and the like.
REEBUH!!!
TALegion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1187 Posts
December 11 2010 02:07 GMT
#353
I thought this would be an intelligent, argumentative, and possibly intelligent discussion of music, it's many forms, it's creation and production, it's audiences, and society and taste in general...
Then I saw the OP's post.

Your type of music is just as bullshit as hip-hop, if not more. Old metal is the only bit of metal worth listening to (Black Sabbath, The Misfits, Judas Priest, etc.). The rest of it is bitchy, mostly uncreative, has little/unoriginal points, and is less skillful and creative in terms of actual instrumental and lyrical quality.... In my opinion.

(cwutididthar?)
A person willing to die for a cause is a hero. A person willing to kill for a cause is a madman
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 11 2010 02:13 GMT
#354
On December 11 2010 11:07 TALegion wrote:
I thought this would be an intelligent, argumentative, and possibly intelligent discussion of music, it's many forms, it's creation and production, it's audiences, and society and taste in general...
Then I saw the OP's post.

Your type of music is just as bullshit as hip-hop, if not more. Old metal is the only bit of metal worth listening to (Black Sabbath, The Misfits, Judas Priest, etc.). The rest of it is bitchy, mostly uncreative, has little/unoriginal points, and is less skillful and creative in terms of actual instrumental and lyrical quality.... In my opinion.

(cwutididthar?)


lol
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Wassow
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom32 Posts
December 11 2010 02:28 GMT
#355
I cant stand the mainstream stuff today, but its most like for the distaste of the culture more than the actuall songs. Since I like some, Eminem or old stuff like the sugar hill gang. Besides I have an interest in everything, classial, rock, dance... though not pop, ever. :X
TALegion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1187 Posts
December 11 2010 02:37 GMT
#356
On December 11 2010 11:13 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2010 11:07 TALegion wrote:
I thought this would be an intelligent, argumentative, and possibly intelligent discussion of music, it's many forms, it's creation and production, it's audiences, and society and taste in general...
Then I saw the OP's post.

Your type of music is just as bullshit as hip-hop, if not more. Old metal is the only bit of metal worth listening to (Black Sabbath, The Misfits, Judas Priest, etc.). The rest of it is bitchy, mostly uncreative, has little/unoriginal points, and is less skillful and creative in terms of actual instrumental and lyrical quality.... In my opinion.

(cwutididthar?)


lol


Pretty different from the other two examples, but old enough to be considered.... old.

They highly influenced almost every modern metal band, so i feel that regardless of our opinions, they deserved recognition as one of the higher in metal history.
A person willing to die for a cause is a hero. A person willing to kill for a cause is a madman
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
December 11 2010 02:47 GMT
#357
this thread is just people throwing out why they like/dislike musical genres because it's their own opinion.

god what a terrible thread, no music is the best. it's like saying fps are superior to rts, it's like saying that sc2 is superior to bw, it's like saying go is superior to chess. it's like comparing fucking apples and oranges ladies and gentlemen

saying stuff like my apple is better then some rotten orange doesn't mean apples are better then oranges


Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 11 2010 02:56 GMT
#358
On December 11 2010 11:37 TALegion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2010 11:13 Mindcrime wrote:
On December 11 2010 11:07 TALegion wrote:
I thought this would be an intelligent, argumentative, and possibly intelligent discussion of music, it's many forms, it's creation and production, it's audiences, and society and taste in general...
Then I saw the OP's post.

Your type of music is just as bullshit as hip-hop, if not more. Old metal is the only bit of metal worth listening to (Black Sabbath, The Misfits, Judas Priest, etc.). The rest of it is bitchy, mostly uncreative, has little/unoriginal points, and is less skillful and creative in terms of actual instrumental and lyrical quality.... In my opinion.

(cwutididthar?)


lol


Pretty different from the other two examples, but old enough to be considered.... old.

They highly influenced almost every modern metal band, so i feel that regardless of our opinions, they deserved recognition as one of the higher in metal history.


Regardless of who they influenced or what Danzig went on to do, The Misfits were punk rock.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Dystisis
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway713 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 03:07:16
December 11 2010 03:06 GMT
#359
On December 11 2010 02:53 stratman wrote:
To me, metal is just kids from the suburbs being loud and angry. OP called rap 'just talking into a microphone'. IMO that's much better than just screaming into a microphone.

Not every metaller is from the suburbs at all. This is just mindless scene-talk generalization you're doing here.

In fact, everyone should chill the fuck out and realize that there are insightful people into every god damn genre you can think of. Even the stuff that sounds like complete bullshit to you, don't even begin to demonize it because there will be good stuff within it as well, and good reasons to like it.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 11 2010 03:15 GMT
#360
On December 11 2010 10:58 Igakusei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2010 10:44 GolemMadness wrote:
On December 11 2010 10:39 Igakusei wrote:
I don't know if anyone will even read this 17 pages in, but I'll throw my mostly meaningless opinion out there anyway:

I have NO idea why people like Rap/Hip-Hop. It seriously just makes me angry. It sets me on edge, and I mostly find the lyrics so shallow and stupid that I would go so far as describing them intellectually offensive.

What's the big attraction? Can someone who "gets it" explain it to me? It just bothers the shit out of me.


Saying that the lyrics are shallow and stupid is literally like saying that you hate books because they're dumb. Rap is a very diverse genre; there are many songs with deeper lyrics. Yeah, a lot of mainstream stuff is stupid, as is the case in every genre. Hating pretty much any genre is just ridiculous; there's always going to be stuff out there that you'll like.


Perhaps I should clarify that what annoys me most about the Rap/Hip-Hop I have heard is the sound of the music itself. I generally don't even listen to music lyrics, so I'll freely agree that the lyrics I HAVE listened to or read were a mere drop in the pond. I'll see if I can find a few songs that I do like the sound of, and I'll post them here to see what you think.


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