EPTWhy does everyone love hip hop/rap now? - Page 19
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
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Landok
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erin[go]bragh
United States815 Posts
Music is, just like anything else, opinion. It's like wine. I'll enjoy my $70 bottle of Bordeaux because I like complexity and depth to my wine, but when I see someone drinking cheap Merlot I don't hate on them for drinking a "simple" wine. My bottle is very much an acquired taste, just like many forms of complex music (like *progressive* metal or Jazz) and many people who enjoy simpler wines would spit out my expensive Bordeaux, despite it's price tag, supposed greatness and 99 Robert Parker rating. It is what it is, to be frank. There's no debating "better" music because there's nothing to debate. I wish people would just stop talking about it. You won't get someone else to love what you love, just like they won't get you to love what they do. You can link whatever songs you think are awesome all you want, if the fundamental taste is different, it's not going to fly. And thats the way it should be. No two tastes are the same, this creastes variety, and thats a good thing. | ||
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Quasimoto3000
United States471 Posts
I challenge anyone to write a rap with more polysyllabic interwoven rhymes within words, and with the amount of simile/punchline wittiness as say, Rakim. There is a reason that, should you ask any rapper who the best ever is, they will say Rakim. | ||
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Quasimoto3000
United States471 Posts
On December 10 2010 16:01 PUPATREE wrote: The dumb are mostly intrigued by the drum. User was warned for this post Okay this did not deserve to get warned, let me explain He was quoting a song by the wu-tang clan, in which mastahkillah says the words, implying that we come with lyrics, good beats, and good concepts, while the dumb are mostly intrigued by the sound of the drum, referencing the nonsense dance raps that you hear everywhere. Okay, maybe he should have explained that himself ^^ | ||
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agarangu
Chile274 Posts
On December 11 2010 12:41 Tha_Docta wrote: I think people are downplaying the level of technicality involved in rap. You can be good at rapping, its not just rhyming. I challenge anyone to write a rap with more polysyllabic interwoven rhymes within words, and with the amount of simile/punchline wittiness as say, Rakim. There is a reason that, should you ask any rapper who the best ever is, they will say Rakim. But you will never see a Metal band playing with Justin Beiber | ||
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LaSt)ChAnCe
United States2179 Posts
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Airbag
Japan77 Posts
On December 11 2010 13:01 agarangu wrote: But you will never see a Metal band playing with Justin Beiber You're gonna look pretty stupid when Justin Bieber becomes Dream Theaters next drummer | ||
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
On December 10 2010 15:56 Headshot wrote: Computer generated noises? I've got two words for you. The Roots. The Roots aren't relevant anymore. | ||
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Jombozeus
China1014 Posts
Remember that the world is evolving, and the more qualified are getting positions, whereas 20 years ago anyone can get record deals provided a decent skill and innovation/creativity. Look at Lady Gaga, she is as mainstream as you can get, but you cannot tell me an average run-of-the-mill rapper/metalhead has more qualifications than her, or can sing better than her. She isn't bad at all, she just chooses to appeal to the mass of the public, which is NOT a bad thing, its called being smart. The public isn't some dumb blob of people with no brains, everyone of us is part of the public, and if you choose to be anti-mainstream then so be it. Whatever subculture you belong to that likes to elevate their status by projecting their awesomeness and downplaying others is just being close-minded. There is nothing wrong with liking mainstream music, its mostly good, that is why most people like it. I mean, c'mon, just because you like metal doesn't mean the other 95% of the world's population is some mindless sheep, they are human beings that you interact with on a daily basis, they are your neighbors and other kids at your school/uni. Just because you are at the comfort of your own home, it doesn't mean everyone you know suddenly turns into statistics. Think objectively, Bieber has a much better voice than most metal singers out there (see Anders Friden from In Flames, he can scream and is a great vocalist in one of the most popular metal bands, but his singing is pretty subpar). Still hate Bieber though. | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On December 11 2010 10:35 GolemMadness wrote: Touching some strings while hitting drums and pressing keys isn't hard to do. Seriously, what is wrong with you? You literally say how easy rap is to make and that only idiots like it, and then proceed to say that there's no reason for them to talk negatively about metal. Yeah, it's obviously your opinion, and it's just as obvious that you're incredibly ignorant and that nobody is ever going to take you seriously on this subject. Then you know nothing about metal, I understand that rap may take some skills but compared to metal, it's a almost a joke. Continue to bash me with no arguments. Edit: I wanted to show him that metal music did evolved. You're all saying that I'm an idiot for arguing but damn, if someone says something as ignorant as this on metal, then I have on choice but to answer his judgment. Now it's your turn to prove me that rap did evolved, takes some skills and can be unique. | ||
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BROotogy
Eritrea149 Posts
I think mods should close this thread, all thats going to come from this thread is arguments.. | ||
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lxginverse
Monaco1506 Posts
and i love power and symphonic metal... Nightwish ftw! | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On December 11 2010 14:27 BROotogy wrote: may as well not even post, my reply was pretty mean :/ I think mods should close this thread, all thats going to come from this thread is arguments.. You're right, they should close it. Just to clarify, I never said I hated the people who listen to rap, I actually don't judge anyone for their tastes. It's just the simple "the metal didn't evolved" that bugged me. Cheers. | ||
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Rawenkeke
Norway350 Posts
On December 11 2010 06:26 BasedSwag wrote: A lot of people, such as myself, would consider every artist you listed to be at the same level of 'talent'. But then again, someone with the nick basedswag. i rest my case. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On December 11 2010 14:39 Essbee wrote: You're right, they should close it. Just to clarify, I never said I hated the people who listen to rap, I actually don't judge anyone for their tastes. It's just the simple "the metal didn't evolved" that bugged me. Cheers. "Electronic sounds with computer modified voices isn't hard to do, it's the effect it gives as a result where the people likes it (the beat) because they don't know what real musical talent is and that's just what their simple mind like" Yes, saying that something takes no talent and that people who like it are simple minded is very non-judgemental of you. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
 Gotta listen to all kinds of music~ | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On December 11 2010 14:20 Essbee wrote: Then you know nothing about metal, I understand that rap may take some skills but compared to metal, it's a almost a joke. Continue to bash me with no arguments. Edit: I wanted to show him that metal music did evolved. You're all saying that I'm an idiot for arguing but damn, if someone says something as ignorant as this on metal, then I have on choice but to answer his judgment. Now it's your turn to prove me that rap did evolved, takes some skills and can be unique. If you think that metal is so absurdly harder to make than rap, then you know nothing about rap. Sure is easy to throw around baseless statements, isn't it? Your last sentence doesn't even make sense. Are you seriously asking me to do this? Rap is very different from how it was 25 years ago. Rap requires writing lyrics and making beats. There are songs about pretty much any topic out there. Evolution, skill, being unique. Wow. That sure doesn't apply to every single genre in existence. | ||
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news
892 Posts
I will not post countless examples and comparisons, here's a band I saw live twice (and will keep coming to every show they do in MA). | ||
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
Metal may be harder to play but whatever who cares how 'hard' music is to make anyways? | ||
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