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LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 00:30:53
December 11 2010 00:25 GMT
#321



It's funny when people talk about mainstream music being shallow. Some of my favorite artists are mainstream and their words are often more sincere and emotionally relevant than a lot of what some people around here might consider good...
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
December 11 2010 00:43 GMT
#322
On December 11 2010 09:16 hifriend wrote:
Personally I don't give a fuck whether a musician has "skill" or not as long as it sounds good.

Personally I
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
Teddyjex
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada35 Posts
December 11 2010 00:50 GMT
#323
I think what I like about metal is the raging musicianship some bands have. Their technical ability is mind blowing (and sounds amazing when it isnt just a wall of noise). But I like the cleverness of a lot of rap, the metaphors are prettttty good. I dont know why metal's popularity declined so heavily though.
Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his power level?
Raskit
Profile Joined July 2009
579 Posts
December 11 2010 00:52 GMT
#324
I can't find the video on YouTube with the captions, no idea why, it was the whole point of the video but you guys should check this Roots video. Parody of the typical, mainstream hip-hop video.

http://www.pp2g.tv/vZn59Y3Y_.aspx
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
December 11 2010 00:53 GMT
#325
lol Music fanboyism. I love metal and could care less for rap but I understand the appeal. To say that rappers have no skill is complete bullshit. If they did not have skill, that means I can rap very easily which I cannot.

As for metal, I heard the same debate for saying metal has no skill. It is just screaming and a formulaic guitar solo. IT IS ALL OPINIONS!
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
December 11 2010 00:58 GMT
#326
I for one miss 90s pop. Back when the popular music stations played music I loved.../sigh
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LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 01:06:28
December 11 2010 00:59 GMT
#327
On December 11 2010 09:50 Teddyjex wrote:
I think what I like about metal is the raging musicianship some bands have. Their technical ability is mind blowing (and sounds amazing when it isnt just a wall of noise). But I like the cleverness of a lot of rap, the metaphors are prettttty good. I dont know why metal's popularity declined so heavily though.



Just because it's awesome I'm throwing this in there..
LunarC
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1186 Posts
December 11 2010 01:10 GMT
#328
Eminem always sounds so fucking angry, regardless of what he's talking about. He complains a shit-ton about everything. I liked it better when he did some funny stuff like Just Lose It.

When it comes to metal, I like hearing complex meters, rhythms, melodies and musicianship. Dream Theater and Mastodon are my metal bands.

All-in-all, I listen to metal for the reasons that I listen to classical music. Thus, I don't listen to a majority of metal. I only listen to the ones that experiment and have the musical talent to do so.

As for hip-hop, I listen to people like Nujabes, NaS, or Talib Kweli. Chill beats and they can address pressing issues just like Eminem without sounding like enraged chimpanzees.
REEBUH!!!
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 01:15:54
December 11 2010 01:15 GMT
#329
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On December 11 2010 10:10 LunarC wrote:
Eminem always sounds so fucking angry, regardless of what he's talking about. He complains a shit-ton about everything. I liked it better when he did some funny stuff like Just Lose It.

When it comes to metal, I like hearing complex meters, rhythms, melodies and musicianship. Dream Theater and Mastodon are my metal bands.

All-in-all, I listen to metal for the reasons that I listen to classical music. Thus, I don't listen to a majority of metal. I only listen to the ones that experiment and have the musical talent to do so.

As for hip-hop, I listen to people like Nujabes, NaS, or Talib Kweli. Chill beats and they can address pressing issues just like Eminem without sounding like enraged chimpanzees.

I agree, I used to listen to eminem a lot more until I kinda got bored of his sound. It's a lot easier to listen to people like Binary Star, Gang Starr, Fashawn, and Nas cause they all flow so well.
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RaYhN
Profile Joined June 2004
United States437 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 01:15:51
December 11 2010 01:15 GMT
#330
I don't know much about other countries but in American clubs, girls get down and dirty to hip hop/rap. WHUDDD-UP
Siffer
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States467 Posts
December 11 2010 01:18 GMT
#331
Hip-Hop/Rap gets played in clubs, because it has good tempo for dancing. Metal does not.

Most radio rap sucks tho.



Baller track
Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
December 11 2010 01:23 GMT
#332

Yea.
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http://www.onlinedrummer.com/drummer.php?BeatId=485





So boring. I'd add CoB but they've been letting me down ever since (including) Hate Crew.

I do, however, recommend 'Die Apokalyptischen Reiter', Finntroll... and the ever so awesome Apocalyptica for some of the finest niche metal bands in the world.


Oh God Apocalyptica is badass. There are a few metal bands I appreciate, but like I said they are difficult to find in amongst the sea of mediocre bands. Personally my taste has moved on to jazz and folk. That way I have both ends of the spectrum covered - complexity and simplicity.

Really though, why is this thread still going? The last 2 pages are essentially the same as the first 2. I guess I can't talk though. This post is just another contribution.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 11 2010 01:23 GMT
#333
Eminem's always had songs about his problems and stuff. He was just a lot better for SSLP and stuff.
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Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
December 11 2010 01:24 GMT
#334
The OP's perception appears to be based on general ignorance of music and prejudice of hip hop artists.

The thread title reminds me of the following scene from the movie American History X (NSFW).
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Turn off the radio
squintz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada217 Posts
December 11 2010 01:26 GMT
#335
Because every day I'm hustlin'
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
December 11 2010 01:26 GMT
#336
On December 11 2010 09:53 Shiragaku wrote:
lol Music fanboyism. I love metal and could care less for rap but I understand the appeal. To say that rappers have no skill is complete bullshit. If they did not have skill, that means I can rap very easily which I cannot.

As for metal, I heard the same debate for saying metal has no skill. It is just screaming and a formulaic guitar solo. IT IS ALL OPINIONS!


You could care less for rap? Really? So you're into some of it yea?... oh did you mean. you COULND'T care less? I'm confused my friend.
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
December 11 2010 01:28 GMT
#337


THIS IS THE SHIT :D
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
December 11 2010 01:30 GMT
#338
I think Jon Lajoie explains the success of pop songs fairly well in this video :D

How's the weather down there?
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
December 11 2010 01:33 GMT
#339


Check this shit out... THIS IS FUCKING MUSIC :D
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 11 2010 01:35 GMT
#340
On December 11 2010 08:31 Essbee wrote:
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On December 11 2010 08:12 Tralan wrote:
Maybe it is because there isnt enough pressure on the artists anymore but the best hip hope and rap artists are just much better than the best in metal which just seems to be an old genre which hasnt really had any evolution since the 90's.


How can you say that? All rap and hip hop music is a pure joke to make compared to metal. If you say that metal hasn't evolved since the 90's, then you clearly don't know what you are talking about. Electronic sounds with computer modified voices isn't hard to do, it's the effect it gives as a result where the people likes it (the beat) because they don't know what real musical talent is and that's just what their simple mind like, I'm ok with but there's no reason for them to talk negatively about metal. In metal, everything take skills, from the harsh vocals, to the cleans, then to the guitar, bass and drums. There's also a lot of additions from different bands. For example the keyboard, also the folk metal bands which add a lot of folklore influences to their music. If that's not evolution, then I don't know what it is. And recently, a lot of metal bands have instrumentals, with acoustic guitars, flutes, etc... They are trying to show their musical talent in playing but also composing, which is really important if you want to have something unique.

Obviously, that's my opinion but no one can deny that metal music take an enormous amount of skills compared to rap, it's not even close. If you don't agree, then you have to listen to more metal that is not mainstream.


Touching some strings while hitting drums and pressing keys isn't hard to do. Seriously, what is wrong with you? You literally say how easy rap is to make and that only idiots like it, and then proceed to say that there's no reason for them to talk negatively about metal. Yeah, it's obviously your opinion, and it's just as obvious that you're incredibly ignorant and that nobody is ever going to take you seriously on this subject.
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