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) i actually dont prefeer hiphop or rap i prefer "indie" music but you can not deny the amazing talent in the rap pool right now. oh and metal fans will hate me but mastodon is the most interesting "listen able" metal ive listened to in years.Why does everyone love hip hop/rap now? - Page 15
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LeSioN
United States325 Posts
) i actually dont prefeer hiphop or rap i prefer "indie" music but you can not deny the amazing talent in the rap pool right now. oh and metal fans will hate me but mastodon is the most interesting "listen able" metal ive listened to in years. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
Now the same can be said about metal. Most metal is awful, but good metal can be melodious and good. I don't think rap or hiphop can be melodious - not to my ear at least. I suppose that's an opinion but I feel like I'm largely right at least. Regardless, what the hell happened to classical music? Everything's getting drowned by Kesha, Justin Bieber and Rihanna pop garbage that does nothing good but show what's most likely a decline in the general awesomeness of the human race. Most of the good music out there is the old stuff. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On December 11 2010 07:49 LeSioN wrote: if your musical tastes are broad enough to enjoy metal theres no reason why something much less abrassive and melodic can be entertaining. where do people get this idea that metal is necessarily abrasive and lacking in melody | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:02 Mindcrime wrote: where do people get this idea that metal is necessarily abrasive and lacking in melody From the place were they got the idea that rap is necessarily juvenile and only talks about money and hoes. | ||
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Tralan
United Kingdom24 Posts
Listening to a Kanye West song the production is just incredible, it is like he has super human powers when he sits down and creates his music. Great production and lyrics make something much better than any metal music out there. Kid Cudi, Kanye West, and Niki Minaj to name a few are all doing something interesting that is actually pushing their genre whilst also creating music that is easy to enjoy. In regards to the post above, you write about what you know, and what the artists know is poverty when they are up and comming artists and riches and pimped cars when they have made it. The only thing that remains constant is drugs and hopefully social commentary if they are a good artist with some integrity. I dont see how this is a bad message since it is what they know it is just the only message they have, and by trash of society you mean poor and black I assume. True some artists like 50 cent take it to mysoginistic and maybe hedonistic extremes but 50 cent is a bad artist anyway. I am white and middle class but one of my favourite artists growing up was Dizzee Rascal, he was poor and black and writing about life on a council estate but I could still identify with his anger as a teenager. Rap and hip hop is relevant whilst also being cool and also has some great artists that are actually making interesting music and in my opinion that is why it is a more succesful genre than metal. | ||
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MahatmaSC2
United States192 Posts
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TrainFX
United States469 Posts
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:12 Tralan wrote: Maybe it is because there isnt enough pressure on the artists anymore but the best hip hope and rap artists are just much better than the best in metal which just seems to be an old genre which hasnt really had any evolution since the 90's. How can you say that? All rap and hip hop music is a pure joke to make compared to metal. If you say that metal hasn't evolved since the 90's, then you clearly don't know what you are talking about. Electronic sounds with computer modified voices isn't hard to do, it's the effect it gives as a result where the people likes it (the beat) because they don't know what real musical talent is and that's just what their simple mind like, I'm ok with but there's no reason for them to talk negatively about metal. In metal, everything take skills, from the harsh vocals, to the cleans, then to the guitar, bass and drums. There's also a lot of additions from different bands. For example the keyboard, also the folk metal bands which add a lot of folklore influences to their music. If that's not evolution, then I don't know what it is. And recently, a lot of metal bands have instrumentals, with acoustic guitars, flutes, etc... They are trying to show their musical talent in playing but also composing, which is really important if you want to have something unique. Obviously, that's my opinion but no one can deny that metal music take an enormous amount of skills compared to rap, it's not even close. If you don't agree, then you have to listen to more metal that is not mainstream. | ||
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TrainFX
United States469 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:31 Essbee wrote: How can you say that? All rap and hip hop music is a pure joke to make compared to metal. If you say that metal hasn't evolved since the 90's, then you clearly don't know what you are talking about. Electronic sounds with computer modified voices isn't hard to do, it's the effect it gives as a result where the people likes it (the beat) because they don't know what real musical talent is and that's just what their simple mind like, I'm ok with but there's no reason for them to talk negatively about metal. In metal, everything take skills, from the harsh vocals, to the cleans, then to the guitar, bass and drums. There's also a lot of additions from different bands. For example the keyboard, also the folk metal bands which add a lot of folklore influences to their music. If that's not evolution, then I don't know what it is. And recently, a lot of metal bands have instrumentals, with acoustic guitars, flutes, etc... They are trying to show their musical talent in playing but also composing, which is really important if you want to have something unique. Obviously, that's my opinion but no one can deny that metal music take an enormous amount of skills compared to rap, it's not even close. If you don't agree, then you have to listen to more metal that is not mainstream. Why are you bashing someones uninformed opinions with your own uninformed opinions? that just seems a bit hypocritical and not to mention rude. I personally hate metal and would only listen to it for mass amounts of money but you don't see me trying to jam my opinions down someones throat. | ||
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EdSlyB
Portugal1621 Posts
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HollowLord
United States3862 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:36 EdSlyB wrote: Where is the love for Cuban music? Or for the Blues? Or for dozens of other genres? There's much much more in the world to love! Embrace Music!! NO There are two kinds of people in this world: metal fans and rap fans you have to pick one or the other | ||
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TrainFX
United States469 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote: NO There are two kinds of people in this world: metal fans and rap fans you have to pick one or the other But what about Justin Beieber? | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:31 Essbee wrote: How can you say that? All rap and hip hop music is a pure joke to make compared to metal. If you say that metal hasn't evolved since the 90's, then you clearly don't know what you are talking about. Electronic sounds with computer modified voices isn't hard to do, it's the effect it gives as a result where the people likes it (the beat) because they don't know what real musical talent is and that's just what their simple mind like, I'm ok with but there's no reason for them to talk negatively about metal. In metal, everything take skills, from the harsh vocals, to the cleans, then to the guitar, bass and drums. There's also a lot of additions from different bands. For example the keyboard, also the folk metal bands which add a lot of folklore influences to their music. If that's not evolution, then I don't know what it is. And recently, a lot of metal bands have instrumentals, with acoustic guitars, flutes, etc... They are trying to show their musical talent in playing but also composing, which is really important if you want to have something unique. Obviously, that's my opinion but no one can deny that metal music take an enormous amount of skills compared to rap, it's not even close. If you don't agree, then you have to listen to more metal that is not mainstream. Both of you should stop. | ||
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Dark-Storm
Canada334 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
i don't understand why anyone would even care | ||
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`Zapdos
United States935 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:42 `Zapdos wrote: It's the same reason more people like like halo then brood war. You have to be smart to understand it. That's simply the best answer. lol no you don't have to be smart to understand metal or technical music | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote: musicians sort of their own musical-penis, more likely a guy who knows a few technical words and must feel power over his fellow man. Personally i don't get the sentiment that it's just now popular i grew up in area's that it was popular in the 80's 90's and now so i don't see much of a change. But i always did notice the change in music driving in different area's on the US.why would you even argue about what sort of music is the most difficult to play or takes the most "skill" to produce i don't understand why anyone would even care | ||
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:42 `Zapdos wrote: It's the same reason more people like like halo then brood war. You have to be smart to understand it. That's simply the best answer. -_- I think you overestimate the amount of intelligence required to understand Brood War. | ||
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