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Cocacooh
Norway1510 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:42 `Zapdos wrote: It's the same reason more people like like halo then brood war. You have to be smart to understand it. That's simply the best answer. Your heard it here first! Intellect determines taste. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:45 semantics wrote: musicians sort of their own musical-penis, more likely a guy who knows a few technical words and must feel power over his fellow man. Personally i don't get the sentiment that it's just now popular i grew up in area's that it was popular in the 80's 90's and now so i don't see much of a change. But i always did notice the change in music driving in different area's on the US. i was like that when i was 15 and just barely learning guitar and i listened to a lot of stuff like dream theater and shred music and after a few months I realized it was just boring wankery and simple music like folk is much more gratifying | ||
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`Zapdos
United States935 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote: lol no you don't have to be smart to understand metal or technical music True, but I guess what I really meant was that most smart people won't listen to rap/hip hop because it's shallow. But definately stupid people listen to metal. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:49 `Zapdos wrote: True, but I guess what I really meant was that most smart people won't listen to rap/hip hop because it's shallow. But definately stupid people listen to metal. If you think rap and hip-hop is shallow then that tells me you don't actually listen to any hip-hop that isn't on the radio or in television or that you didn't have the capacity to understand which hip-hop it is that you have heard. If I based my entire opinion of "punk rock" based on bands like Fall Out Boy I think I'd be crucified by the punk community. It's similarly stupid to base your opinion of hip-hop on the music of talentless clowns like Lil Wayne, Gucci Mane, and Chamillionaire. | ||
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`Zapdos
United States935 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If you think rap and hip-hop is shallow then that tells me you don't actually listen to any hip-hop that isn't on the radio or in television or that you didn't have the capacity to understand which hip-hop it is that you have heard. If I based my entire opinion of "punk rock" based on bands like Fall Out Boy I think I'd be crucified by the punk community. It's similarly stupid to base your opinion of hip-hop on the music of talentless clowns like Lil Wayne, Gucci Mane, and Chamillionaire. I do listen to rap actually, but it's very hard to find people with deep lyrical content like sage francis, and even when some songs have content from certain artists, majority of time the rest of their songs don't. And punk rock is for teh lolz. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:53 `Zapdos wrote: I do listen to rap actually, but it's very hard to find people with deep lyrical content like sage francis, and even when some songs have content from certain artists, majority of time the rest of their songs don't. And punk rock is for teh lolz. I think there is a misconception that hip-hop is "shallow" because it is direct. Rappers don't usually bother bringing up their point through contrived religious metaphors and mythological allegories but to express their emotions and experiences directly to the listener. I wouldn't call it "shallow". | ||
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BigBadSkathe
United States234 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If you think rap and hip-hop is shallow then that tells me you don't actually listen to any hip-hop that isn't on the radio or in television or that you didn't have the capacity to understand which hip-hop it is that you have heard. If I based my entire opinion of "punk rock" based on bands like Fall Out Boy I think I'd be crucified by the punk community. It's similarly stupid to base your opinion of hip-hop on the music of talentless clowns like Lil Wayne, Gucci Mane, and Chamillionaire. Uhhhh weazy is actually sick when he's not playing guitar. Gucci is a joke but ofc everyone knows that. I like all music. Seems to me that people who pick one genre of music and decide everything else sucks need to take a good hard look at why they are like that. Just because you like one thing over another doesn't mean something can't change your mind. I think most people sub-consciously feel that if they change their minds, they're admitting they were wrong about something in the first place when in reality you just had an opinion that's changing. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I think there is a misconception that hip-hop is "shallow" because it is direct. Rappers don't usually bother bringing up their point through contrived religious metaphors and mythological allegories but to express their emotions and experiences directly to the listener. I wouldn't call it "shallow". Yeah! and from the 8 ball, my breath starts stinkin left to get ma girl to rock that body before i left, i hit the bac-ardi went to her house to get her out of the pad dumb hoe said somethin that made me mad she said somethin that i couldnt believe so i grabbed the stupid bitch by her nappy-ass weave she started talkin shit, wouldnt you know reached back like a pimp, slapped the hoe her father jumped up and he started to shout so i threw a right cross and knocked his old-ass out Ok nvm. Ps: I'm (sort of) kidding. | ||
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UrASofty
Canada772 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On December 10 2010 16:34 MahatmaSC2 wrote: I can appreciate other music such as jazz, classical, even big band! For the life of me though, I can't seem to appreciate rap. None of it seems to take talent to me, although I know it does. Sort of. It just seems like the average guy can come up with a rap song, but it takes actual thought and innovation to come up with a good song in any other genre. It might not seem like it's that hard to rap, I mean, it's just saying words right? It's not even singing but if you try to spit a rap at karaoke or just by yourself you'll see that it's very hard to do. Every person has their own certain style and way of going about it, some smooth, some fast and so to just say anyone can rap is wrong. Just try to do any Eminem song and you'll see that you can't match exactly the way he's delivering it. The example that always comes to mind for me is Lose Yourself. Tablo tried to do a cover of it on live TV and it just didn't have all the emotions and feelings that Eminem was able to put behind it and so it wasn't as good. Writing rap/hip hop really is very close to crafting a poem | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On December 11 2010 08:53 `Zapdos wrote: I do listen to rap actually, but it's very hard to find people with deep lyrical content like sage francis Cage Binary Star Blue Scholars Aesop Rock Cannibal Ox Cunninlynguists Company Flow Danny! Dessa El-P Eyedea & Abilities Felt Genelec and Memphis Reign Mac Lethal Louis Logic MF DOOM P.O.S. Psalm One Sole I like all of them more than Sage. Thats a few by the way. I'd say P.O.S. is not only a far better lyricist than Sage Francis, I'd say hes better overall. | ||
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Airbag
Japan77 Posts
On December 11 2010 09:00 UrASofty wrote: The fact you think sage francis is good is hilarious. you probably think immortal technique is amazing immortal technique is the shittiest rapper on the planet i die inside every time a white kid discovers him and thinks he is the best ever | ||
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Neivler
Norway911 Posts
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B.I.G.
3251 Posts
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Hittegods
Stockholm4641 Posts
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Airbag
Japan77 Posts
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instantnoodles
United States190 Posts
i think the reason why mainstream hip hop is so popular is because of clubs and dancing. when youre at a club drunk, you dont care about lyrics, you just wanna feel the bass and dance to something catchy | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On December 11 2010 09:12 instantnoodles wrote: I love hip hop/rap but not the mainstream stuff that plays on the radio. I like more chill, meaningful rap like blue scholars. i think the reason why mainstream hip hop is so popular is because of clubs and dancing. when youre at a club drunk, you dont care about lyrics, you just wanna feel the bass and dance to something catchy I think there's a time and place for both and I think both can be enjoyable. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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