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On November 12 2010 06:46 Mora wrote:
So many of you are taking the school's actions out of context.
1) The school is an ALL GIRLS school.
2) Girls at that age (who don't socialize with males on a regular basis) would often not be willing to bring a male if given the choice.
3) The school is trying to create a forum for this to happen.
As a homosexual who found it a struggle to meet/talk to a guy that i was attracted to, i can sympathize with every non-lesbian in that all-girls school.
If those lesbians want to be lesbians, they can do so every day of the fucking week. When do the other girls have a chance to meet boys?
Good point.
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On November 12 2010 06:46 Mora wrote:
So many of you are taking the school's actions out of context.
1) The school is an ALL GIRLS school.
2) Girls at that age (who don't socialize with males on a regular basis) would often not be willing to bring a male if given the choice.
3) The school is trying to create a forum for this to happen.
As a homosexual who found it a struggle to meet/talk to a guy that i was attracted to, i can sympathize with every non-lesbian in that all-girls school.
If those lesbians want to be lesbians, they can do so every day of the fucking week. When do the other girls have a chance to meet boys?
I'm sure that one girl bringing her lesbian girlfriend is really going to make it hard on all of the other girls who simply want to meet boys.
The school was obviously conservative and obviously didn't approve of her having a lesbian partner. If their intentions were as noble as they're trying to make it seem why the hell would they care if one girl out of their entire student body brought her girlfriend rather than a boy? Are they going to ban every girl who doesn't bring a boy to the dance as well?
Also, if the girls at that school don't have a chance to meet boys then how are they going to invite boys to this formal?
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On November 12 2010 06:37 Kleinmuuhg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 06:20 FabledIntegral wrote:On November 12 2010 04:01 OPworgen wrote:
These kids are to young to no What love is let alone decide if they really are gay. I'm mean 15 year's old lmao CRY FOR ATTENTION ANYONE? Are you just playing ignorant? Were you unsure of your sexuality before 15? Pretty sure I was interested in girls since Kindergarden and had the usual experience of regularly even doing sexual acts at that age (although I had no idea what I was doing, and it was much more curiosity oriented than anything). Literally girl crazy ever since I can remember. Sorry you weren't able to know. I've had countless gay friends. All except one were positive they were gay by freshman year of high school. Thanks for your idiocy and quick jumping to the classic "cry for attention" apathetic argument. Hold on a second. .. Crazy for girls since Kindergarden? That doesn't sound familiar. I clearly remember this "girls ..meh" phase when me and my friends were 8 - 10. And before that you just dont make a difference between girls and boys.
I've always been majorly attracted to girls. Back in Kindergarden I remember when watching cartoons that had cute girls wanting to play "kissy games" I thought it would be awesome if they tried to play me with. I also got to third base repeatedly in Kindergarden, and kissed at least 5 different girls by the time of 3rd grade.
What's sad is that following all this I had a 100% dry spell until my junior year of high school, where I had my first "legitimate" kiss.
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On November 12 2010 06:46 Mora wrote:
So many of you are taking the school's actions out of context.
1) The school is an ALL GIRLS school.
2) Girls at that age (who don't socialize with males on a regular basis) would often not be willing to bring a male if given the choice.
3) The school is trying to create a forum for this to happen.
As a homosexual who found it a struggle to meet/talk to a guy that i was attracted to, i can sympathize with every non-lesbian in that all-girls school.
If those lesbians want to be lesbians, they can do so every day of the fucking week. When do the other girls have a chance to meet boys?
How do these two girls going to the formal prohibit the heterosexual girls from meeting anyone else?
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On November 12 2010 06:46 Mora wrote:
So many of you are taking the school's actions out of context.
1) The school is an ALL GIRLS school.
2) Girls at that age (who don't socialize with males on a regular basis) would often not be willing to bring a male if given the choice.
3) The school is trying to create a forum for this to happen.
As a homosexual who found it a struggle to meet/talk to a guy that i was attracted to, i can sympathize with every non-lesbian in that all-girls school.
If those lesbians want to be lesbians, they can do so every day of the fucking week. When do the other girls have a chance to meet boys?
And the presence of a lesbian couple at the dance will somehow disrupt the entire dynamic or something?
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On November 12 2010 06:52 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 06:37 Kleinmuuhg wrote:On November 12 2010 06:20 FabledIntegral wrote:On November 12 2010 04:01 OPworgen wrote:
These kids are to young to no What love is let alone decide if they really are gay. I'm mean 15 year's old lmao CRY FOR ATTENTION ANYONE? Are you just playing ignorant? Were you unsure of your sexuality before 15? Pretty sure I was interested in girls since Kindergarden and had the usual experience of regularly even doing sexual acts at that age (although I had no idea what I was doing, and it was much more curiosity oriented than anything). Literally girl crazy ever since I can remember. Sorry you weren't able to know. I've had countless gay friends. All except one were positive they were gay by freshman year of high school. Thanks for your idiocy and quick jumping to the classic "cry for attention" apathetic argument. Hold on a second. .. Crazy for girls since Kindergarden? That doesn't sound familiar. I clearly remember this "girls ..meh" phase when me and my friends were 8 - 10. And before that you just dont make a difference between girls and boys. I've always been majorly attracted to girls. Back in Kindergarden I remember when watching cartoons that had cute girls wanting to play "kissy games" I thought it would be awesome if they tried to play me with. I also got to third base repeatedly in Kindergarden, and kissed at least 5 different girls by the time of 3rd grade. What's sad is that following all this I had a 100% dry spell until my junior year of high school, where I had my first "legitimate" kiss.
And obviously people don't realize that in most third world countries many children begin having sex or engage in sexual activity as young or 9-11. Sure, there are people who think the opposite sex is icky at that age, like myself. But my brother has been interested in girls since he was 7.
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Hannah Williams, left, and her girlfriend, Savannah Supski,
hannah and savannah
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"Ivanhoe Girls' Grammar School in Melbourne" ? this is not a public school or what?
Mr Williams said the experience had forced his daughter to move to a ''more accepting'' government school."
private?
AUS?
All very interesting but ionno much about Australian law
In the US if it's private you can discriminate, it wont make you very popular but you can it's how we have religious schools etc.
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On November 12 2010 06:53 ProTech_MediC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 06:46 Mora wrote:
So many of you are taking the school's actions out of context.
1) The school is an ALL GIRLS school.
2) Girls at that age (who don't socialize with males on a regular basis) would often not be willing to bring a male if given the choice.
3) The school is trying to create a forum for this to happen.
As a homosexual who found it a struggle to meet/talk to a guy that i was attracted to, i can sympathize with every non-lesbian in that all-girls school.
If those lesbians want to be lesbians, they can do so every day of the fucking week. When do the other girls have a chance to meet boys? How do these two girls going to the formal prohibit the heterosexual girls from meeting anyone else?
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cause 16 year old heterosexual girls who have never socialized with boys are incredibly afraid to do so?
The whole point of getting these girls to invite a boy is that they are forced to then socialize/entertain their guest.
What do you picture this dance looking like?
I remember in junior-high, when everyone except for the few bold would sit on the sidelines and watch everyone else (usually older kids) dance. All the girls would stand with the girls, all the boys would stand with the boys. Occasionally a guy would be brave enough to walk over and ask a girl to dance; the girls would giggle and gossip, and the guys would sit envious trying to work up the courage to do the same.
Now picture that same dance except that instead of approaching a random girl at the dance, you brought a girl from a different school. Would you abandon her and still sit with all your chums? No. You would be forced to sit/chat with her because you brought a guest.
And that's what this school was trying to facilitate. If girls are allowed to bring girls, why would they bring boys? Except for a bold few (similar to the co-ed school), the majority of the girls would not have guests of the opposite sex.
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I don't see what the big deal is about.
I'm from Australia so I'm not sure how closely 'prom' and school dances (which have been brought up in this thread) or what we call - 'formals' are linked, but this would happen in every school.
It's not a matter of discrimination, I don't think. I went to a private boys school (I won't specify), and we had a number of gays in our grade, and they had no problem with it at all, most just brought a close female friend and enjoyed the night anyway.
You've got to understand that it's a school function, and they set the rules on what is appropriate and what is not. If one really feels hard done by it, i think the girls in this story did the right thing to move schools.
Could have done without all the hoopla though. People are trying to extrapolate this incident and generalise, it's quite silly. 
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god i wish i was sent to an all-boys school.
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On November 12 2010 06:57 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 06:52 FabledIntegral wrote:On November 12 2010 06:37 Kleinmuuhg wrote:On November 12 2010 06:20 FabledIntegral wrote:On November 12 2010 04:01 OPworgen wrote:
These kids are to young to no What love is let alone decide if they really are gay. I'm mean 15 year's old lmao CRY FOR ATTENTION ANYONE? Are you just playing ignorant? Were you unsure of your sexuality before 15? Pretty sure I was interested in girls since Kindergarden and had the usual experience of regularly even doing sexual acts at that age (although I had no idea what I was doing, and it was much more curiosity oriented than anything). Literally girl crazy ever since I can remember. Sorry you weren't able to know. I've had countless gay friends. All except one were positive they were gay by freshman year of high school. Thanks for your idiocy and quick jumping to the classic "cry for attention" apathetic argument. Hold on a second. .. Crazy for girls since Kindergarden? That doesn't sound familiar. I clearly remember this "girls ..meh" phase when me and my friends were 8 - 10. And before that you just dont make a difference between girls and boys. I've always been majorly attracted to girls. Back in Kindergarden I remember when watching cartoons that had cute girls wanting to play "kissy games" I thought it would be awesome if they tried to play me with. I also got to third base repeatedly in Kindergarden, and kissed at least 5 different girls by the time of 3rd grade. What's sad is that following all this I had a 100% dry spell until my junior year of high school, where I had my first "legitimate" kiss. And obviously people don't realize that in most third world countries many children begin having sex or engage in sexual activity as young or 9-11. Sure, there are people who think the opposite sex is icky at that age, like myself. But my brother has been interested in girls since he was 7.
Very misleading comment. Kids in those countries are not having consensual sex at those ages. They are having sex for the benefit of their much older (male) partner (husband) or they are being taken advantage of by older people.
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What's upsetting for me is the school's reasoning behind the rule. You're gonna look like an idiot one way or the other telling someone they basically cannot be gay within a certain 4 walls. And I expect this of racists, bigots, and other socially immature pockets of life, but school staff?
I would love to re-enact how that board meeting went down when instituting this rule.
Boss guy "So we got a few options around this whole prom thing. We can either tell the girls at an all girls school to find their own date at around the age of 16. That way they won't do anything hasty."
Boss's yes Man "Yes Boss, that will lead to nothing but good decisions."
Boss guy "Or we could let the girls bring who ever they're comfortable with. Which obviously spells trouble. because if you let girls get comfortable they're trading sex for crack-cocaine before you can blink."
Boss's Yes Man "Yes Boss, crack-cocaine is a very logical step from comfort."
Boss guy "Well, then it's decided."
Boss's Yes Man "Yes boss, right boss, what about same sex couples?"
Boss guy "At this age? I don't hate gays or anything, I just find them extremely repulsive. It's like they think they're normal humans or something. We can't have that for our school, so no girls bringing girls or guys bringing guys. Girls have to bring a MAN or come ALONE."
Boss's Yes Man "Yes Boss, this will certainly improve the quality of decisions made. Because showing up alone to prom at an all girls school among your peers isn't at all socially scarring. They'll thank us when their gay friends die of crack-cocaine."
Boss Man "One day, Henry-Donald, even though both of your first names are bad, you're a star among ants; one day... you'll be in this chair."
-Fin
Lol @ the guy who thought he'd get banned for sharing his opinion, and rather, he was banned because he did not. And the stress candle that burned down the house says in the cheesy, Mortal Kombat -Whoopsie!- tone, "IRONY!
Who goes to a forum to say they can't share their opinion? 
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Doesn't matter.
There are FAR bigger injustices in the world than 2 kids not being able to dance a lil.
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On November 12 2010 07:18 .risingdragoon wrote:
Doesn't matter.
There are FAR bigger injustices in the world than 2 kids not being able to dance a lil.
This is the worst fucking logic I've ever heard.
By the same logic, any injustice except for the biggest injustice also doesn't matter.
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On November 12 2010 07:04 Mora wrote:
And that's what this school was trying to facilitate. If girls are allowed to bring girls, why would they bring boys?
Because the social context of a dance is inherently sexual. Girls aren't going to bring girls as their "lesbian" date.
On November 12 2010 07:04 Mora wrote:
Except for a bold few (similar to the co-ed school), the majority of the girls would not have guests of the opposite sex.
If the girls are as uncomfortable with the thought of bringing boys as you think, then they wouldn't bring boys at all, anyway.
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On November 12 2010 06:46 Mora wrote:
So many of you are taking the school's actions out of context.
1) The school is an ALL GIRLS school.
2) Girls at that age (who don't socialize with males on a regular basis) would often not be willing to bring a male if given the choice.
3) The school is trying to create a forum for this to happen.
As a homosexual who found it a struggle to meet/talk to a guy that i was attracted to, i can sympathize with every non-lesbian in that all-girls school.
If those lesbians want to be lesbians, they can do so every day of the fucking week. When do the other girls have a chance to meet boys?
Oh how naive you are  They most likely have no problems meeting boys, you think that all those unwanted pregnancies in the past when the single-sex schools were norm were immaculate conceptions ?
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On November 12 2010 07:10 StarBrift wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 06:57 overt wrote:On November 12 2010 06:52 FabledIntegral wrote:On November 12 2010 06:37 Kleinmuuhg wrote:On November 12 2010 06:20 FabledIntegral wrote:On November 12 2010 04:01 OPworgen wrote:
These kids are to young to no What love is let alone decide if they really are gay. I'm mean 15 year's old lmao CRY FOR ATTENTION ANYONE? Are you just playing ignorant? Were you unsure of your sexuality before 15? Pretty sure I was interested in girls since Kindergarden and had the usual experience of regularly even doing sexual acts at that age (although I had no idea what I was doing, and it was much more curiosity oriented than anything). Literally girl crazy ever since I can remember. Sorry you weren't able to know. I've had countless gay friends. All except one were positive they were gay by freshman year of high school. Thanks for your idiocy and quick jumping to the classic "cry for attention" apathetic argument. Hold on a second. .. Crazy for girls since Kindergarden? That doesn't sound familiar. I clearly remember this "girls ..meh" phase when me and my friends were 8 - 10. And before that you just dont make a difference between girls and boys. I've always been majorly attracted to girls. Back in Kindergarden I remember when watching cartoons that had cute girls wanting to play "kissy games" I thought it would be awesome if they tried to play me with. I also got to third base repeatedly in Kindergarden, and kissed at least 5 different girls by the time of 3rd grade. What's sad is that following all this I had a 100% dry spell until my junior year of high school, where I had my first "legitimate" kiss. And obviously people don't realize that in most third world countries many children begin having sex or engage in sexual activity as young or 9-11. Sure, there are people who think the opposite sex is icky at that age, like myself. But my brother has been interested in girls since he was 7. Very misleading comment. Kids in those countries are not having consensual sex at those ages. They are having sex for the benefit of their much older (male) partner (husband) or they are being taken advantage of by older people.
Yes, that's true, but boys are also having sex at that age. People begin to develop their sexuality at increasingly younger ages. Even puberty is happening at younger ages. I've been to third world countries and I've talked to girls who have been taken advantage of in the way that you speak, it happens a lot and it's heart breaking but even some of the boys I talked to were having sex or experimenting at the age of ten, eleven, or twelve.
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I get a little angry every time I read an article like this one.
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I call bs on their excuse, it's just a private school that wants to preserve its conservative stance w/ regard to hetero relationships. But it's not like this is a public entity or is receiving any kind of funding from the government. It might be a little retro when it comes to individual rights, but this is blown way out of proportion and isn't that big a deal imo. As a general matter, let the private school do what it wants.
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This is so disgusting how we even have to consider that homosexuality is like being a minority. When is child molestation going to be accepted? We already have NAMBLA which would never have been allowed 50 years ago. The world is so filled with disgusting things and they keep pushing them to be legal. The only thing that is wrong is saying something is wrong.
Homosexuality is at best a genetic/biological/pre-natal/hormonal/behavioral problem which needs to be cured. But instead it is treated like they are a minority and you can't even disagree with it or your a bigot/hater/fascist. Its really getting old dealing with homosexuals pushing their agenda to be accepted. Lets see them push for a cure instead of pretending they are ok the way they are.
How many countries/cultures/religions say homosexuality is wrong? And yet its being forced to be accepted. Its disgusting and wrong. Homosexuality should be banned worldwide and the only thing done in regards to it is looking for a cure to it so no one has to suffer from it again.
I hope I live to see the day when homosexuality is cured, even if that means homosexuality has to be accepted temporarily before it is eradicated from the human race forever. Maybe when acceptance comes homosexuals will finally realize there is something wrong with them and find a cure.
Go ahead and ban me too since I disagree with homosexuality and am a bigot obviously. Too bad people are too close minded to realize homosexuality is an error. Thank God I live in America where we have freedom of speech.
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