EPTTL a little too strict on speech? - Page 2
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NeoIllusions
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Radios
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ZeaL.
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jimminy_kriket
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On September 25 2010 02:42 Cpt.beefy wrote: I agree. some banhammers ain't justified. It depends who reads the msg me thinks...... but what can WE do? keep your head low and dont disagree with anyone. It wont get you anywhere. This is what I do anyways. (i feel some vets do the same thing) | ||
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Flames
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freelander
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unfortunately I can't tell where these posts were from but in most cases the mods do a nice job | ||
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strongwind
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User was warned for this post. Reason: some set, pre-made automated response like "trolling" or "internet meme" that's probably too much work though. The vast majority of warnings are pretty justified imo. | ||
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Ation
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I have a really high respect for the seriously awesome work that the admins do in order to keep the forums effective and useful for all. I've been admining also at Quake 2 scene and I undestand what works and what doesn't (nothing happens if everyone is scared of "getting dirty"). Good going guys  | ||
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Marl
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
On September 25 2010 02:52 jimminy_kriket wrote: keep your head low and dont disagree with anyone. It wont get you anywhere. This is what I do anyways. (i feel some vets do the same thing) yea, at times just a counter argument was given a warning | ||
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Jameser
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NonY
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Hot_Bid
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What you're describing in the OP isn't a free speech issue. If we banned you for posting this thread, then yes that's a problem. But the guy you quoted is a really bad example because he's ignoring the thread to post his own opinion on Idra. His post just leads to people responding to him and an argument about "QQing" rather than discussing the actual topic. Thus, we feel a temp ban was the right action to take. | ||
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Zeroes
United States1102 Posts
edit- also you should have been around when chill was moderating. now that was strict | ||
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semantics
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On September 25 2010 02:39 chimthegrim wrote: This thread as an example: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=155453 The first response was a guy that said this: So now the question I am raising here is "Is TL a little too strict on what can or can't be said on the forums?" The example I provided is someone who in obvious disagreement and he has expressed that by saying "Idra isn't god." Yet, this is ban worthy? I'm wondering why it is so easy to get temp banned on TL. Well, just a thought. Hopefully I don't get banned for this post. he responded in a bad tone that leads me to believe he was a troll. saying stuff like "zerg qq idrabadlol" isn't the same as saying "in my opinion the reason why zergs aren't doing as well isn't because of their UPness, it is because (insert reason here) " and back it up with logic. you aren't going to a debate saying stuff like "lol u suck" | ||
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Chronopolis
Canada1484 Posts
On September 25 2010 02:55 Hot_Bid wrote: What is most frustrating is users stating "I hope I don't get banned for this" when they are simply posting feedback or criticism of our website. We aren't the Ministry of Truth and this isn't 1984. If you're reasonable and polite, nobody is going to ban you even if you completely disagree with how we do things. We've always prided ourselves on TL's ability to be open about criticism, admit when we're wrong, and correct mistaken bans. What you're describing in the OP isn't a free speech issue. If we banned you for posting this thread, then yes that's a problem. But the guy you quoted is a really bad example because he's ignoring the thread to post his own opinion on Idra. His post just leads to people responding to him and an argument about "QQing" rather than discussing the actual topic. Thus, we feel a temp ban was the right action to take. Thanks for the explanation and clarification. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 25 2010 02:55 Hot_Bid wrote: What is most frustrating is users stating "I hope I don't get banned for this" when they are simply posting feedback or criticism of our website. We aren't the Ministry of Truth and this isn't 1984. If you're reasonable and polite, nobody is going to ban you even if you completely disagree with how we do things. We've always prided ourselves on TL's ability to be open about criticism, admit when we're wrong, and correct mistaken bans. Well I would hardly call TL moderation strict. Sites like Elitestjerks are strict and well it works really well there. I find people are just too used to forums being overly lax in moderation so they perceive any form of moderation as being "strict". People shouldn't be able to post whatever they please. | ||
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BoX
United States214 Posts
Instead it turned into a ridiculous waste of time. I got tired of reading it 3/4ths through the first page. TL wants to stop that shit from happening. So they make examples out of the morons. TL should do this more often, not less often. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
On September 25 2010 02:55 Liquid`Tyler wrote: It isn't really about the poster's rights. It's more about what readers have to read. There isn't any way for anyone to benefit from reading the post you quoted. It's completely trash and I don't know why you'd want the thousands of people looking at that thread to read that comment. ditto keep up the good work mods! | ||
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