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On September 05 2010 14:48 Physician wrote:" David Blaine can be credited for advancing this technique. He's more than just an illusionist." david blaine cheated on his 17 min record; he used http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxycyte
With the technique I outlined above, David Blaine achieved a time slightly under 8 minutes.
What David Blaine did for the 17 minute and 4.4 second record was breathe pure oxygen before holding his breath. This record was actually broken just four months afterwards.
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I'm a swimmer, I can't even hold for a minute. I always breathe, why not breathe?
I notice that a few have polled their initial times, but no one has taken the time to actually complete the exercise.
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very interesting. i'm not going to try it cause i'm weak shit, but this is nice to know about.
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On September 05 2010 14:54 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
I'm a swimmer, I can't even hold for a minute. I always breathe, why not breathe?
I notice that a few have polled their initial times, but no one has taken the time to actually complete the exercise.
Breathing takes time. Back when I was in middle school, when I still swam, I breathed only once every 30 minutes. That has nothing to do with this technique though.
Edit: I mean meters, sorry. 
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So is holding your breath a physical or mental achievement?
You seem to suggest that anyone should be able to achieve 2-3 minutes just by using your technique.
You said that hyperventilating "tricks" your body into thinking it doesn't have as much carbon dioxide, so the feeling of dying isn't as strong.
So technically "sheer willpower" (however hard it may be) should be enough for us to hold our breathes for 2-3 minutes, even though we have had zero physical practice/conditioning?
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On September 05 2010 14:56 Karliath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2010 14:54 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
I'm a swimmer, I can't even hold for a minute. I always breathe, why not breathe?
I notice that a few have polled their initial times, but no one has taken the time to actually complete the exercise. Breathing takes time. Back when I was in middle school, when I still swam, I breathed only once every 30 minutes. That has nothing to do with this technique though.
every 30minutes? really? did you grow gills or something lol
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On September 05 2010 15:03 NickC wrote:
So is holding your breath a physical or mental achievement?
You seem to suggest that anyone should be able to achieve 2-3 minutes just by using your technique.
You said that hyperventilating "tricks" your body into thinking it doesn't have as much carbon dioxide, so the feeling of dying isn't as strong.
So technically "sheer willpower" (however hard it may be) should be enough for us to hold our breathes for 2-3 minutes, even though we have had zero physical practice/conditioning?
Not exactly. Just because your mind thinks you have oxygen doesn't mean that your body has it. If you can block out pain, a saw cutting you in half is still going to kill you, however strong your willpower to block the pain is.
That said, I do believe that a healthy person can achieve 2-3 minutes with this technique (it's not mine). Hyperventilation 1) gives you more oxygen than you usually gets 2) tricks your mind into thinking you have even more oxygen. Through the combination of the two, and the good breath-holding tips I have provided, holding your breath for 2-3 minutes shouldn't be a problem.
Of course, the best way to improve your time is to practice holding your breath for longer periods, and to exercise. Don't practice with this technique, however. This is only the "test," if you will. Practice as you normally would: Inhale....hold.
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On September 05 2010 15:03 Malgrif wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2010 14:56 Karliath wrote:On September 05 2010 14:54 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
I'm a swimmer, I can't even hold for a minute. I always breathe, why not breathe?
I notice that a few have polled their initial times, but no one has taken the time to actually complete the exercise. Breathing takes time. Back when I was in middle school, when I still swam, I breathed only once every 30 minutes. That has nothing to do with this technique though. every 30minutes? really? did you grow gills or something lol
LOL I am sorry. Every 30 meters. So a bit further than one lap (not forward and back). I think that's the right number, assuming one lap is 25 meters.
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On September 05 2010 15:03 Malgrif wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2010 14:56 Karliath wrote:On September 05 2010 14:54 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
I'm a swimmer, I can't even hold for a minute. I always breathe, why not breathe?
I notice that a few have polled their initial times, but no one has taken the time to actually complete the exercise. Breathing takes time. Back when I was in middle school, when I still swam, I breathed only once every 30 minutes. That has nothing to do with this technique though. every 30minutes? really? did you grow gills or something lol
omg this is funny
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On September 05 2010 15:09 Karliath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2010 15:03 Malgrif wrote:On September 05 2010 14:56 Karliath wrote:On September 05 2010 14:54 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
I'm a swimmer, I can't even hold for a minute. I always breathe, why not breathe?
I notice that a few have polled their initial times, but no one has taken the time to actually complete the exercise. Breathing takes time. Back when I was in middle school, when I still swam, I breathed only once every 30 minutes. That has nothing to do with this technique though. every 30minutes? really? did you grow gills or something lol LOL I am sorry. Every 30 meters. So a bit further than one lap (not forward and back). I think that's the right number, assuming one lap is 25 meters.
lol what??? 30 meters is kinda short for a swimmer, and you say you can hold your breath for 4+ minutes.... uh okay. I think I was around 40 meters, and I'm nowhere close to 4 minutes lol.
this method is interesting but if you're a competitive swimmer, you definitely should have known about this before. We do similar hyperventilating exercises when we get ready to swim and stand on the blocks... and if you're really a swimmer (hellokitty[hk]), you'll know that breathing actually slows you down, which is why people don't breathe every 2nd/3rd or whatever stroke, and why your coach should be drilling your breathing exercises every single practice.
edit: fyi I can only hold my breath for like 2 minutes. 4 minutes is too intense for me lol
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On September 05 2010 15:18 Wings wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2010 15:09 Karliath wrote:On September 05 2010 15:03 Malgrif wrote:On September 05 2010 14:56 Karliath wrote:On September 05 2010 14:54 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
I'm a swimmer, I can't even hold for a minute. I always breathe, why not breathe?
I notice that a few have polled their initial times, but no one has taken the time to actually complete the exercise. Breathing takes time. Back when I was in middle school, when I still swam, I breathed only once every 30 minutes. That has nothing to do with this technique though. every 30minutes? really? did you grow gills or something lol LOL I am sorry. Every 30 meters. So a bit further than one lap (not forward and back). I think that's the right number, assuming one lap is 25 meters. lol what??? 30 meters is kinda short for a swimmer, and you say you can hold your breath for 4+ minutes.... uh okay. I think I was around 40 meters, and I'm nowhere close to 4 minutes lol. this method is interesting but if you're a competitive swimmer, you definitely should have known about this before. We do similar hyperventilating exercises when we get ready to swim and stand on the blocks... and if you're really a swimmer (hellokitty[hk]), you'll know that breathing actually slows you down, which is why people don't breathe every 2nd/3rd or whatever stroke, and why your coach should be drilling your breathing exercises every single practice. edit: fyi I can only hold my breath for like 2 minutes. 4 minutes is too intense for me lol
Yup, you're right. And btw, I'm not a swimmer; I quit after 7th grade. That 30 meters was back in middle school, when I was 12. I don't know how long (distance) I can hold it for now. The 4 minutes is for the present (almost 18), lying like a dead fish on the ground.
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Sounds like quite the party trick.
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Oh. and whoever voted for "0-30 s using the technique" is just trollin', cause he couldn't have even finished the exercise.
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tryd thisgot brn damg do nt recmend
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haha sonuvbob
This is really cool! If I'm ever on Fear Factor or something I'll remember to come back here 
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On September 05 2010 15:32 SonuvBob wrote:
tryd thisgot brn damg do nt recmend
Perhaps you're not fit to be an admin anymore >:D
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On September 05 2010 15:18 Wings wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2010 15:09 Karliath wrote:On September 05 2010 15:03 Malgrif wrote:On September 05 2010 14:56 Karliath wrote:On September 05 2010 14:54 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
I'm a swimmer, I can't even hold for a minute. I always breathe, why not breathe?
I notice that a few have polled their initial times, but no one has taken the time to actually complete the exercise. Breathing takes time. Back when I was in middle school, when I still swam, I breathed only once every 30 minutes. That has nothing to do with this technique though. every 30minutes? really? did you grow gills or something lol LOL I am sorry. Every 30 meters. So a bit further than one lap (not forward and back). I think that's the right number, assuming one lap is 25 meters. lol what??? 30 meters is kinda short for a swimmer, and you say you can hold your breath for 4+ minutes.... uh okay. I think I was around 40 meters, and I'm nowhere close to 4 minutes lol. this method is interesting but if you're a competitive swimmer, you definitely should have known about this before. We do similar hyperventilating exercises when we get ready to swim and stand on the blocks... and if you're really a swimmer (hellokitty[hk]), you'll know that breathing actually slows you down, which is why people don't breathe every 2nd/3rd or whatever stroke, and why your coach should be drilling your breathing exercises every single practice. edit: fyi I can only hold my breath for like 2 minutes. 4 minutes is too intense for me lol
30 meters is not short for a competitive event. It all depends on what length you are swimming. In a 50 the body can survive easily on anaerobic systems and oxygen saturated before the start, in this case not breathing is an advantage as it does not disrupt your stoke or body line. In a 100 and 200+ you begin to access aerobic energy systems, so you'll need to breath much more often or face serious performance problems after about a 75. When I competed seriously I either breathed at around 30m/37.5y or went with none, in a 100/200 around every 2-4 strokes. I COULD have held my breath for ~125...but that would be slow as shit.
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he used a hyperbaric chamber
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