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Console Gamers Get Killed against PC Gamers - Page 11
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
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THE_oldy
Australia97 Posts
On July 30 2010 06:08 Pedo.Bear wrote: Starcraft Original > Starcraft N64 nuff said. Are there actually any examples of ports which are better than the original? | ||
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BearsAreScary
United States6 Posts
Consoles are superior for fighting games and music or gimmicky-type games. Mouse and keyboard are shit for fighting controls and the console was specifically designed to have people playing together for things like music/party games. Everything else is pretty much even. I'd give a slight edge to consoles for many types of games because of the ease of hitting different types of buttons with stricter timings. But that advantage is mostly negligible. ....can we all just move on with our lives now? | ||
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THE_oldy
Australia97 Posts
Can't blame you though, its 11 pages, but the discussion is way past the points in your post | ||
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Xeln4g4
Italy1195 Posts
On July 24 2010 04:03 travis wrote: and pee into bottles. + Show Spoiler + don't take this post too seriously, though I do somewhat believe the first sentence i swear i did it once! Had to break a Tetris record on Facebook! LOOOOL This post made me laugh sooooo hard | ||
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theSAiNT
United States726 Posts
On July 30 2010 04:21 THE_oldy wrote: Watching that get quake video... Looks really fun actually. I can just tell i wouldn't 100% appreciate it though, having played barely any of it. Rockets are defiantly more of a "gun", than a supplementary to gun play like grenades. As a low grav scoutzknivez CSS player, the bunny hopping and rail gunning impress me. Enough in fact to want to try it, does q3 cost money? (and i wonder if servers are still active in Australia..). Rockets actually move really slowly. Slow enough to dodge if you're any distance apart at all. Air rockets are hard to pull off. Grenades have an arced trajectory. Air grenades are even harder to pull. If you're interested, check out http://www.quakelive.com It's FREE to play and all you need is a browser plugin. It's iD's official port of Q3. They host all the servers. There are friends lists and achievements like all 'modern' games. The balance is not quite the same as CPMA (most popular competitive Q3 mod) but it's now used in all competitions (see http://www.esl-world.net/masters/) | ||
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theSAiNT
United States726 Posts
On July 30 2010 05:32 Ace wrote: To the guy who said an average Quake player could probably win those top tier Halo tournaments: keep dreaming. Being good at one FPS game doesn't mean you are going to do well at another. Both games have too many intricacies and levels of depth to just assume it's as easy as switching games. If that was the case we'd have seen them flocking to Halo for all the money out there. I said that. But if you read what I said, it included the fact that Quake player be allowed to use keyboard and mouse. Obviously, to keep a level playing field, this wouldn't be possible. (Also, it would be embarrassing for the Halo 'pros'.) Again, I'm not denying the 'intricacies and levels of depth' of Halo. Just that none of it matters because the joypad is just such a bad control scheme that everybody is stuck at such a low level compared to what is possible with a keyboard and mouse. | ||
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joi93
Sweden47 Posts
Most of the pepole who have written in this tread obvisosly aren't used console gamers, atleast that's the impression I get. I used to be a PC gamer (playing CS: S) about ~2-3 years ago, and i got pretty good at it. But then i got my lovely Xbox and Halo 3 and switched over almost all of my gaming to that, and i really can't say that i regret it or anything. Pepole who say that PC is superior to console when it comes to FPS gaming are stupid imo, and probably aren't used to gaming on console. Playing games on console is so much more relaxing and it fells a shitload better just to move your thumb a bit rather than moving your whole hand. Go watch some CoD MW2 montages/gameplays, there are some pretty goddamn good kills there, just as there is on PC. (And no, it's not good to compare a strategy game on PC with a strategy game on console, some games just doesent suit PC and some doesen't suit console. | ||
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
On July 24 2010 04:03 travis wrote: I've always felt like pc gamers were just more hardcore than console gamers in general. Console gamers sit on their couch and eat potato chips and drink beer. PC gamers sit right in front of their monitor and don't move for 12 hours and tweak their drivers and game settings and pee into bottles. + Show Spoiler + don't take this post too seriously, though I do somewhat believe the first sentence the spoiler is duly noted but... ive never peed in a bottle and im good at sc! i dont think we should compare PC to console because obviously the controller with more options on it is gonna have a higher skill cap.. Mice and keyboards just have more control so of course they are gonna be better... People like different things | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On July 31 2010 05:56 joi93 wrote: Well... Most of the pepole who have written in this tread obvisosly aren't used console gamers, atleast that's the impression I get. I used to be a PC gamer (playing CS: S) about ~2-3 years ago, and i got pretty good at it. But then i got my lovely Xbox and Halo 3 and switched over almost all of my gaming to that, and i really can't say that i regret it or anything. Pepole who say that PC is superior to console when it comes to FPS gaming are stupid imo, and probably aren't used to gaming on console. Playing games on console is so much more relaxing and it fells a shitload better just to move your thumb a bit rather than moving your whole hand. Go watch some CoD MW2 montages/gameplays, there are some pretty goddamn good kills there, just as there is on PC. (And no, it's not good to compare a strategy game on PC with a strategy game on console, some games just doesent suit PC and some doesen't suit console. MW2 is pubbing. We don't talk about BGH when discussing the best BW players. | ||
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flx!
United States101 Posts
On July 24 2010 07:12 vindKtiv wrote: I definitely agree. However, in the end, making video games is a business. Why make less money catering to the hardcore, when you can make tons and tons of money by catering to the casuals? Why make a hardcore shooter like Quake or Unreal when all the casual gamers want more MW2?. Because the one and only goal in life isn't to make money. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
On July 31 2010 07:14 Jibba wrote: MW2 is pubbing. We don't talk about BGH when discussing the best BW players. Day[9] is the only one allowed to do that :-p. | ||
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LF9
United States537 Posts
On July 24 2010 04:23 Hawk wrote: If you beat Wayne Gretzky in hockey one on one by using a hockey stick while he was using a 2x4 with a salmon tied to the bottom, would you be the better player?? If he had a choice to use the hockey stick but instead picked the salmon and 2x4, then yes, you would. Making good (logical) decisions is part of being good. | ||
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
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trucane
United States553 Posts
On July 31 2010 05:56 joi93 wrote: Well... Most of the pepole who have written in this tread obvisosly aren't used console gamers, atleast that's the impression I get. I used to be a PC gamer (playing CS: S) about ~2-3 years ago, and i got pretty good at it. But then i got my lovely Xbox and Halo 3 and switched over almost all of my gaming to that, and i really can't say that i regret it or anything. Pepole who say that PC is superior to console when it comes to FPS gaming are stupid imo, and probably aren't used to gaming on console. Playing games on console is so much more relaxing and it fells a shitload better just to move your thumb a bit rather than moving your whole hand. Go watch some CoD MW2 montages/gameplays, there are some pretty goddamn good kills there, just as there is on PC. (And no, it's not good to compare a strategy game on PC with a strategy game on console, some games just doesent suit PC and some doesen't suit console. Oh the irony of people talking about PC vs Console skills and mentioning Halo 3, CS:S ( LOL) and MW2. Of course it's more relaxing sitting in your couch but that doesn't make it any better, who the fuck would consider relaxation when you are talking about skill? It's a known fact that you can't even remotely perfom all the thing on a gamepad that you can with a mouse + keyboard. | ||
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DarQraven
Netherlands553 Posts
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anon195
15 Posts
On July 24 2010 03:47 Trion wrote: I find that surprising, I would assume a game designed for a console would be much easier to play on a console. fps' are designed for console? | ||
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THE_oldy
Australia97 Posts
On July 31 2010 09:34 Loanshark wrote: So this is why all the Xbox shooters have like no recoil because it's already hard enough to put your crosshair on a target lol. Exactly. Recoil is a mechanism needed to make it harder to aim/shoot (can't shoot on the run) which is partly what allows CSS to work at such a slower movement speed compared to Q3, but still be a fast paced competitive game. Designers of a game built specifically for console have the option of just adjusting the autoaim to make it as easy or hard to aim/shoot as they need. PC FPSs have to be build specifically around how hard it is to aim/shoot with a mouse, and are limited to just adjusting things like the speeds of q3, or recoil of CSS for example. Now you might say that a mouse is the superior control scheme. It certainly is the most easy to use. Such control probably does provide many benefits over a thumb stick for competitive gaming as you'd proclaim. But know there are also many benefits thumb sticks provide for a competitive game which a mouse cant. The reality is that they are just different control schemes, both of which provide their own variety of flavors for competitive FPSs... and believe me, I've clocked a lot (probably too much  ) time playing competitive FPSs on both schemesAs far as skill-caps go, i wouldn't say either scheme has a skill cap. In a well made game for either it should be impossible to make every single shot. If you can get 100% good at aiming in a game there is something wrong with the game IMO. | ||
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Sly
Canada95 Posts
On July 24 2010 03:47 Trion wrote: I find that surprising, I would assume a game designed for a console would be much easier to play on a console. you can be faster and more pin point with a mouse, and it leaves your left hand completely free to hit all these buttons on your keyboard that could each all do a differen't thing, the console controller has only so many. its not really a fair fight. | ||
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heroyi
United States1064 Posts
2) to player newer games you will have to improve the pc spec. which can be costly and again my first point comes back in mind. on side note: yes having skills in one genre of games (like fps) can transfer to different games that are of the same genre.i was very good in halo 2 xbox. after i was done with it from that day i could pick up an fps game. play less then an hour and be considered at least above average somehow. i would play unreal tournament in my high school comp class (first time playing pc also, when halo 3 came out and halo 2 died) and after getting use to the controls for a bit i would dominate my whole class. score would be 25 to 10-13~(ffa or team doesnt matter, with about 15 kids playing). im not gonna lie having a optic mouse and a keyboard you can just zoom with the reticule and run like hell. mouse is just superior. in essence pc awesome but does require much investment | ||
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