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Pacifist
Profile Joined October 2003
Israel1683 Posts
May 15 2004 10:54 GMT
#21
On May 15 2004 18:50 wlanedbz wrote:
ummmm they sawed one of our civilians heads off and we embarass them F*cking Wah.


no, more like we sexually molest 12412 prisoners and then in retaliation they kill an american civilian
Riding a bike is overrated.
Pumpkin
Profile Joined December 2003
United States1141 Posts
May 15 2004 10:54 GMT
#22
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beanmachine
Profile Joined December 2003
United States115 Posts
May 15 2004 11:00 GMT
#23
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TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
May 15 2004 11:47 GMT
#24
It seems that some people are finally starting to relize the true nature of war. I have maintained that this is a systemic problem, and I think most will feel the same shortly.

The people in these Iraqi jails are not "terrorists". If the US government thought they were terrorist, they would be at Gitmo. As mentioned above, these are regular people off the streets of Iraq. I'm wondering why exactly "we" have to interrogate such people at all. Are taxi drivers going to know where the "WMD" are hidden, or what "AL-Queda"s next plot is going to be? Of course not. To suggest other wise would be rediculous. So, are these interrogations really to get information? Or are we just ruling by fear like Saddam?
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
May 15 2004 11:47 GMT
#25
dick cheyney should resign along with his goons and puppets and news organizations
TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
May 15 2004 11:55 GMT
#26
I obviously think the entire administration should resign, or more appropriatly, be fired. At the same time, I see a problem with Rumsfield resigning. There are many very serious and broad problems with our military, and our foriegn policy. We are now in a situation where we are being forced to analyze these problems. Unfortunetly, these problems go far beyond abusive interrogations and Rumsfield, so for Rumsfield to resign in response to these abuses, it would essentially be creating the illusion that the problem is solved. Rumsfield would be the scapegoat, and everything would continue as usual.

The media seems to be responding to these events, which I find interesting. The media sold Bush's war for him. All the questions that they are now asking, could have, and should have been asked long before we went to war. The media has long played the role of the administrations PR agent, and would be interesting if the media turned on Bush(after being caught in so many lies, I would'nt blaim them).
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
May 15 2004 12:03 GMT
#27
if rummy resigns it will just be a well-designed PR stunt to skapegoat him to benefit the cheyney regime anyways, so asking him to resign is really ridiculous. even if he did resign, he could still do all the same things he's been doing, giving evil advice from chancellor cheyney and whatnot, anyways.
TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
May 15 2004 12:12 GMT
#28
On May 15 2004 21:03 STIMEY d okgm fish wrote:
if rummy resigns it will just be a well-designed PR stunt to skapegoat him to benefit the cheyney regime anyways, so asking him to resign is really ridiculous. even if he did resign, he could still do all the same things he's been doing, giving evil advice from chancellor cheyney and whatnot, anyways.


Agreed Richard Perle did just that. He resigned from the head of the Defense Policy board becuase he was rather conversial, but of course he stayed on as a regular member, and still plays essentially the same role.
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
May 16 2004 11:54 GMT
#29
On May 15 2004 18:52 ReBanned wrote:
Why do all evil, stupid, and worthless people become politicians



Because we let them. We're all responsible to vary degrees. Every society deserves their leaders - for better or for worse.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
May 16 2004 11:57 GMT
#30
...anyway, this is why I (kinda) respect Countdown. At least he's a bit of a thinker.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36399 Posts
May 16 2004 12:01 GMT
#31
reading bushwacked and frankens book back to back makes me hate america.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Amnesty
Profile Joined April 2003
United States2054 Posts
May 16 2004 12:05 GMT
#32
Guantanam joins the fun aswell.
The sky just is, and goes on and on; and we play all our BW games beneath it.
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