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What does a story, albeit perhaps fake, like this teach you?
DON'T FUCKING DO CRIME. Obey the law and be respectful and supportive of society and towards human beings.
This will prevent something like this from happening.
I have no sympathy for criminals really 
They chose this lifestyle, so be a man and take it ;P
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Wow. I feel like I just read a really good short story. I mean, I know the story isn't short, but I'm not sure if it's long enough to call a novella.
If this is real, this guy should really write a book. I liked his writing style, and he said some really profound things.
Hell, even if it ISN'T real/a true story, this guy should be a professional writer. Turn this into a book and profit instead of just writing it for free online!
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On July 24 2010 21:24 Diuqil wrote: Id be able to survive.
Are you openly gay?
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I cant help but put a Starcraft perspective to this guys story. Before he entered prison SC2 had just been announced the year before. When he finally came out the game still hadn't been released. :D
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that is a really emotional story and a great read, really makes you think about your life...
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On July 22 2010 12:48 JiYan wrote: for the skeptics who arent 100% sure about the story, can you guys create another thread or something? on the assumption that this is true, its SERIOUSLY rude to question the validity when hes doing us a favor sharing his story. just dont talk about your doubts here imo.
Although the OP didn't mention it, this story was obviously posted on an imageboard that clearly states that most content there is, most likely, fiction.
Regardless of how some things add or don't add up, this fact alone is enough to establish the premises that the story is in fact not real (not saying that it actually is or isn't).
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While this may seem like a bump - it is to provide context. It seems that quite a few people are wondering the same thing. Is the prison system really just? The Economist, which is not exactly 'some blog', seems to be concerned about the current state of affairs as well.
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On July 25 2010 06:40 News wrote:Are you openly gay?
What does that have to do with anything? I'm pretty sure an openly gay man wouldn't want to go to prison....
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Dunno about his story. My feel for max sec state prison is via the book "fish."
Book is about a 17-year old gay white kid who ended up being tried as an adult (had a felony; aggravated burglary) and got stuck in max prison for 2 years during control hold. The kid is actually the writer who came out with the story some couple decades after the incident. Needless to say he got raped countless times during his first night, almost got killed, then subsequently was coin flipped to see who would be his "man" for protection. Pretty fucked up...
But that was the 80's. Things have gotten a bit better since then..a bit...
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On July 23 2010 08:46 News wrote: The story has some holes in it, wasn't expecting it to be true after that passage with OP and his cellmate taking shots of MDMA thinking it was heroin and then giving each other blowjobs. And the way he speaks about himself getting raped wasn't convincing. Somehow he is well respected towards the end yet he was raped? Doesn't add up at all. Y'know, I think rape in prison, if it doesn't happen by far that much as the pmita prison meme makes believe, is a lot easier to take than rape in a 'free environment'. Psychologically, being in prison, you know being raped is a risk, and being raped doesn't change that feeling much anymore (relatively). You're in the constant state of paranoia already.
When you're free and think you are standing firm in your shoes, have a good life and feel secure, being raped takes that feeling of freedom and safety away, which is devastating. (And the physical pain of being raped? Well, that sucks but that's very temporary.)
To me, that part of the story really does 'click' for me.
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^^ Rape in prison is more than just taking away your personal space and safety. There isn't much that you own in prison, but "manhood" is something that a person is expected to protect. If you are raped, you lose this which pretty much makes you fodder for other guys who want to find someone to fuck. You are expected to protect your "manhood" so when he said he was raped only once...that left me in a bit of doubt. You don't just get raped once in prison. Especially if it was to some small guy with a pencil dick (which is what I think happened).
Raping someone in prison signifies ownership and bumps up the rapists prison social value by a little bit. It's contrary to what you might expect since actual "rapists" are pretty low on the ladder in terms of what convicts find as acceptable crimes to commit.
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On July 28 2010 08:45 lvatural wrote: ^^ Rape in prison is more than just taking away your personal space and safety. There isn't much that you own in prison, but "manhood" is something that a person is expected to protect. If you are raped, you lose this which pretty much makes you fodder for other guys who want to find someone to fuck. You are expected to protect your "manhood" so when he said he was raped only once...that left me in a bit of doubt. You don't just get raped once in prison. Especially if it was to some small guy with a pencil dick (which is what I think happened).
Raping someone in prison signifies ownership and bumps up the rapists prison social value by a little bit. It's contrary to what you might expect since actual "rapists" are pretty low on the ladder in terms of what convicts find as acceptable crimes to commit. If your story is true, then you'd find that everyone in prison could be viewed as a possible rapist. Everyone's in for some higher status. The original story mentions that quite a low percentage of prisoners were into rape. I'm not saying I know the real deal, but the whole rape-for-status idea is at least represented on tv series / movies. Original story mentions the skewed image that most television programs give, perhaps this is an example.
Edit: ah you wrote about that book Yeah well I make up my mind from this guy's story. the 80's were different, I have no idea how different though.
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wow brilliant read. thanks for posting and thanks that guy for sharing.
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Nice read indeed, thanks for bringing this in here
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On July 28 2010 08:32 Badjas wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 08:46 News wrote: The story has some holes in it, wasn't expecting it to be true after that passage with OP and his cellmate taking shots of MDMA thinking it was heroin and then giving each other blowjobs. And the way he speaks about himself getting raped wasn't convincing. Somehow he is well respected towards the end yet he was raped? Doesn't add up at all. Y'know, I think rape in prison, if it doesn't happen by far that much as the pmita prison meme makes believe, is a lot easier to take than rape in a 'free environment'. Psychologically, being in prison, you know being raped is a risk, and being raped doesn't change that feeling much anymore (relatively). You're in the constant state of paranoia already. When you're free and think you are standing firm in your shoes, have a good life and feel secure, being raped takes that feeling of freedom and safety away, which is devastating. (And the physical pain of being raped? Well, that sucks but that's very temporary.) To me, that part of the story really does 'click' for me.
A junkie wouldn't ever, ever take MDMA thinking it was heroin.
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I can't really say much about this... took me about 2 hours to read it all while i was at work (didn't read the whole time ofc).
That was a sick story, and it makes me really happy to be living in sweden (our jails is a joke), although, i'm not planning on doing any crimes anyways lol.
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On July 26 2010 20:32 n0ise wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2010 12:48 JiYan wrote: for the skeptics who arent 100% sure about the story, can you guys create another thread or something? on the assumption that this is true, its SERIOUSLY rude to question the validity when hes doing us a favor sharing his story. just dont talk about your doubts here imo. Although the OP didn't mention it, this story was obviously posted on an imageboard that clearly states that most content there is, most likely, fiction. Regardless of how some things add or don't add up, this fact alone is enough to establish the premises that the story is in fact not real (not saying that it actually is or isn't).
Yes well anyone that goes to that imageboard for long enough starts to develop a very accurate bullshit-o-meter.
This isn't really triggering that meter.
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