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WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
January 30 2017 05:43 GMT
#16641
On January 30 2017 14:14 Nesserev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2017 14:05 WarSame wrote:
Could any of you please tell me why I can access the local host version of my server but cannot access it through my external IP? I allowed traffic through the firewall according to this guide.

Seems like the guide doesn't say anything about port forwarding, so I guess that's what you forgot?

Ah, that is a good point. I'll look that up tomorrow, thanks for the heads up!
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
January 30 2017 10:23 GMT
#16642
On January 30 2017 14:43 WarSame wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2017 14:14 Nesserev wrote:
On January 30 2017 14:05 WarSame wrote:
Could any of you please tell me why I can access the local host version of my server but cannot access it through my external IP? I allowed traffic through the firewall according to this guide.

Seems like the guide doesn't say anything about port forwarding, so I guess that's what you forgot?

Ah, that is a good point. I'll look that up tomorrow, thanks for the heads up!



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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17794 Posts
February 01 2017 07:21 GMT
#16643
Handling .dmg file upload to the server.
Have to validate content type.

.dmg mime-type:
OSX - application/x-apple-diskimage
Debian - application/zlib
CentOS - application/octet-stream

WTF?!

How come the same file returns 3 different mime-types?

[image loading]
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17794 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-01 08:47:02
February 01 2017 08:45 GMT
#16644
http://checkyourbackups.work/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GCK53YDcBWQveod9kfzW-VCxIABGiryG7_z_6jHdVik/pub
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
February 01 2017 08:55 GMT
#16645
On February 01 2017 16:21 Manit0u wrote:
Handling .dmg file upload to the server.
Have to validate content type.

.dmg mime-type:
OSX - application/x-apple-diskimage
Debian - application/zlib
CentOS - application/octet-stream

WTF?!

I had the same shit happening to me with zip files. Ended up not validating over mime type and validated on just file extension instead.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17794 Posts
February 01 2017 11:32 GMT
#16646
On February 01 2017 17:55 Djagulingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2017 16:21 Manit0u wrote:
Handling .dmg file upload to the server.
Have to validate content type.

.dmg mime-type:
OSX - application/x-apple-diskimage
Debian - application/zlib
CentOS - application/octet-stream

WTF?!

I had the same shit happening to me with zip files. Ended up not validating over mime type and validated on just file extension instead.


I do both. Thought it would be a nice touch, so that people can't upload fake files (quite important if your server is serving application installers and update files).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-01 12:12:43
February 01 2017 12:12 GMT
#16647
On February 01 2017 20:32 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2017 17:55 Djagulingu wrote:
On February 01 2017 16:21 Manit0u wrote:
Handling .dmg file upload to the server.
Have to validate content type.

.dmg mime-type:
OSX - application/x-apple-diskimage
Debian - application/zlib
CentOS - application/octet-stream

WTF?!

I had the same shit happening to me with zip files. Ended up not validating over mime type and validated on just file extension instead.


I do both. Thought it would be a nice touch, so that people can't upload fake files (quite important if your server is serving application installers and update files).

I did both too before switching to just checking file extension instead. Too many different mime types possible. Also, if you validate on every single mime type, you can still get fake files. Let's say you validate over all three of them. I remember application/octet-stream definitely from some places. I can just spoof the extension of a file whose mime type is application/octet-stream (application/octet-stream is much more common than you think) and upload that for shits and giggles.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19228 Posts
February 01 2017 14:30 GMT
#16648
I usually do something like an array of allowed file extensions with an array of mime-types allowed per extension, so

[
'dmg' => ['application/x-apple-diskimage', 'application/zlib', 'application/octet-stream']
]


it's worked well for me in the past
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18375 Posts
February 01 2017 14:41 GMT
#16649
Honestly, octet-stream is the most useless mime-type ever. It is basically a cover-all, and insofar as I know, could be any binary data. So why even bother?
phar
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1080 Posts
February 01 2017 17:03 GMT
#16650
On February 01 2017 17:45 Manit0u wrote:
http://checkyourbackups.work/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GCK53YDcBWQveod9kfzW-VCxIABGiryG7_z_6jHdVik/pub

Ha wow. Talk about fast and loose, damn.
Who after all is today speaking about the destruction of the Armenians?
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17794 Posts
February 02 2017 08:29 GMT
#16651
On February 02 2017 02:03 phar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2017 17:45 Manit0u wrote:
http://checkyourbackups.work/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GCK53YDcBWQveod9kfzW-VCxIABGiryG7_z_6jHdVik/pub

Ha wow. Talk about fast and loose, damn.


Yeah, GitLab is pretty fucked. They have balls of steel though, doing it all in public and even live streaming their recovery attempts. I feel really bad for them though. Implementing 5 different backup/recovery mechanisms of which none have worked.

Regarding the text editor discussion from a couple pages back:
http://www.viemu.com/a-why-vi-vim.html
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18375 Posts
February 02 2017 08:40 GMT
#16652
On February 02 2017 17:29 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2017 02:03 phar wrote:
On February 01 2017 17:45 Manit0u wrote:
http://checkyourbackups.work/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GCK53YDcBWQveod9kfzW-VCxIABGiryG7_z_6jHdVik/pub

Ha wow. Talk about fast and loose, damn.


Yeah, GitLab is pretty fucked. They have balls of steel though, doing it all in public and even live streaming their recovery attempts. I feel really bad for them though. Implementing 5 different backup/recovery mechanisms of which none have worked.

Regarding the text editor discussion from a couple pages back:
http://www.viemu.com/a-why-vi-vim.html

They fixed it eventually, but still lost some stuff. Not a great day for them.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/02/gitlabcom_has_found_and_restored_from_an_accidental_backup/

That said, I think the way they handled it was quite impressive. No attempt at a cover-up, but full transparency. Neat.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 03 2017 02:23 GMT
#16653
a couple C questions


#1.) is there anything wrong with leaving parts of your for loop blank?
for example: for(; x < 7; x++) where x was previously initialized.

#2.) my teachers are making me use underscores instead of camelcase. This is frustrating since they had us use camelcase for a year with java and now they want us to switch. is there a reason or are they just being dicks?
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17794 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-03 02:44:50
February 03 2017 02:37 GMT
#16654
On February 03 2017 11:23 travis wrote:
a couple C questions


#1.) is there anything wrong with leaving parts of your for loop blank?
for example: for(; x < 7; x++) where x was previously initialized.

#2.) my teachers are making me use underscores instead of camelcase. This is frustrating since they had us use camelcase for a year with java and now they want us to switch. is there a reason or are they just being dicks?


Ad. 1. No, you can even do for ( ; ; ) as an infinite loop.
Ad. 2. Different language, different syntax and traditions. Get used to it (in PHP for example most people are using camelCase for functions even though they're case insensitive, which can lead to accidental overwrites). http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1722112/what-are-the-most-common-naming-conventions-in-c

Oh, and please do use OTBS. Makes your life much easier in the long run.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 03 2017 03:20 GMT
#16655
On February 03 2017 11:23 travis wrote:
a couple C questions


#1.) is there anything wrong with leaving parts of your for loop blank?
for example: for(; x < 7; x++) where x was previously initialized.

#2.) my teachers are making me use underscores instead of camelcase. This is frustrating since they had us use camelcase for a year with java and now they want us to switch. is there a reason or are they just being dicks?


You'll see a lot of syntax magic in your C class, but I'd suggest never writing code that way. You'll thank yourself if you read it again in a few months when don't remember what trick did what.

Unless you work at one place for your entire career pretty much every place is going to have a different coding standard. Getting used to reading different syntaxs is good for you. Even if you write the same language like say java everywhere there will be some company that does something stupid like use three spaces for indents.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Cyx.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada806 Posts
February 03 2017 03:56 GMT
#16656
On February 03 2017 11:23 travis wrote:
#2.) my teachers are making me use underscores instead of camelcase. This is frustrating since they had us use camelcase for a year with java and now they want us to switch. is there a reason or are they just being dicks?

Like others have said... it's basically a 'when in Rome' kinda deal. Different languages have different traditions and styles, and a lot of the time even different projects in the same language will have their own preferred style. Sticking with the style that's already in place is important - it's really jarring to read code that switches styles partway through. So you'll have to get used to it eventually

For what it's worth I really prefer snake_case everywhere except for PascalCase classes... maybe Ruby rubbed off on me too much but I hate camelCase now, it just looks like an abomination. Like seriously, whose idea was it to capitalize everything *except* the first letter of something? Literally backwards from everywhere else in the English language.
netherh
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom333 Posts
February 03 2017 06:42 GMT
#16657
On February 03 2017 12:20 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2017 11:23 travis wrote:
#1.) is there anything wrong with leaving parts of your for loop blank?
for example: for(; x < 7; x++) where x was previously initialized.

You'll see a lot of syntax magic in your C class, but I'd suggest never writing code that way. You'll thank yourself if you read it again in a few months when don't remember what trick did what.


That's not syntax magic. That's super common. Things like this also shouldn't be daunting:


for (int x = 0, y = 2; x < 7 && y < 7; y++, x += 2 )
{
...
}


I'd say there are very few language features you should actively avoid (maybe trigraphs). Just focus on doing things in the simplest way and making it readable (e.g. don't nest 3 ternary operators together).

Even if you avoid for loops with empty statements, other people won't, so you should understand it. Function pointer syntax is much trickier, but you should get used to that too.
Askelad
Profile Joined October 2016
France20 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-18 17:52:25
February 03 2017 09:30 GMT
#16658
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RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
February 03 2017 09:40 GMT
#16659
If you are not a good coder C++ is definitely not for you. There are too many traps in the language that you can fall for. A design which would appear like a great idea in a higher level language might give you a lot of headache in C++.
Like with any tool in the world I would say this: Use the right tool for the right circumstance. If you actually need something that C++ gives you then go for C++. If you dont, then dont make yourself suffer for no reason.
Askelad
Profile Joined October 2016
France20 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-18 17:51:59
February 03 2017 10:04 GMT
#16660
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