The Big Programming Thread - Page 743

On July 20 2016 15:29 Manit0u wrote:
I've learned something funny today: Java and JavaScript, the two languages that have probably the most job offerings in the world are the two languages I hate working with the most...

No matter how hard I try to convince myself to just let go and dive into them I can't help but be repelled by them

I must say I find it quite odd since I don't really mind working with any other language I know (and that includes PHP) but J and JS somehow elicit a strongly aversive reaction in me.

I just hope I'm not alone in this one

On July 20 2016 15:36 TheEmulator wrote:
Never worked with Java but I hate JS so much. From what I've seen I'd hate Java too

On July 20 2016 17:57 Manit0u wrote:
Browser JS can be fine if you're just doing some small work with it. As soon as you start using more than 200 lines of it then it becomes a shitfest.

Also, why would anyone use Java when you can use Scala which is like 10x better and gives you access to all of Java?

On July 18 2016 10:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:

Ehh, the problem with Mithril, it still seems to be filled with a bit more issues, but you can definitely look into it Manit0u.

On July 20 2016 23:21 -Zoda- wrote:

On the topic of Java huh, I can 't say I hate it but it's not very enjoyable imo. Way too verbose and rigid imo.

On July 21 2016 00:09 RoomOfMush wrote:

Then better dont try C#. If you think java is verbose you are not going to have a good time with C# at all.

On July 20 2016 20:36 RoomOfMush wrote:

I like java. Its not perfect, there are plenty of things I would love to see changed (and I know its never going to happen) but overall its a solid language with many advantages. I much prefer it over C#, C++ and C. I like Javas simplicity and openess.



They have absolutely nothing in common. JS is just called that to cash in on the success of java but its a completely different language.

On July 21 2016 01:10 Fwmeh wrote:


Not my experience at all. Do you have any concrete examples?

for (Object obj : collection) {/*doStuff*/}

foreach (Object obj in collection) {/*doStuff*/}

On July 21 2016 03:05 TheEmulator wrote:

hmm, what part of my post implied that I think they have something in common? I

On July 21 2016 03:58 Nyxisto wrote:
C# is great as a language imo but I'm not enjoying the windows eco system so It'd be great if there's full Linux support at some point, it's gotten a lot better though. As someone above pointed out Java is just horribly verbose. I had to do a lot of Java in college and had to either use Apache Commons or just copy the same things over and over again because I always forgot how the syntax for a BufferedReader works. It takes a bazillion lines of code to read in a textfile : (

		try {
			Path filePath = new File("test.txt").toPath();
			List<String> linesOfText = Files.readAllLines(filePath);
		} catch (IOException e) {
			e.printStackTrace();
		}

On July 21 2016 04:29 RoomOfMush wrote:
I am talking about all the additional syntax. A for-each loop in java:

for (Object obj : collection) {/*doStuff*/}

The same in C#

foreach (Object obj in collection) {/*doStuff*/}

Its a minor thing, but why is it there in the first place?

On July 21 2016 04:29 RoomOfMush wrote:
Or the fact you need to write "override" in front of a method that overrides another. I can see how this might help some people understand the code better, but we've got IDE's for that without having to write anything. Besides, you can do the same thing in java with the optional @Overrides annotation if you want to have compile-time warnings.

On July 21 2016 04:29 RoomOfMush wrote:
I am talking about all the additional syntax. A for-each loop in java:

for (Object obj : collection) {/*doStuff*/}

The same in C#

foreach (Object obj in collection) {/*doStuff*/}

Its a minor thing, but why is it there in the first place?

// foreach
collection.foreach { /*doStuff*/ }

// for
for (obj <- collection) { /*doStuff*/ }

On July 21 2016 16:50 Morfildur wrote:


The same in actually modern C#

list.ForEach(item => item.DoStuff());

list.forEach(item -> item.doStuff());

On July 21 2016 16:16 Manit0u wrote:


The same in Scala:

// foreach
collection.foreach { /*doStuff*/ }

// for
for (obj <- collection) { /*doStuff*/ }

Syntax is syntax. Java's verbosity comes not from syntax but from incrediblyLongAndUnnecessarilySoClassAndMethodNames.

Also, XML (yuck!).