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1. This is not a "do my homework for me" thread. If you have specific questions, ask, but don't post an assignment or homework problem and expect an exact solution.
2. No recruiting for your cockamamie projects (you won't replace facebook with 3 dudes you found on the internet and $20)
3. If you can't articulate why a language is bad, don't start slinging shit about it. Just remember that nothing is worse than making CSS IE6 compatible.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17428 Posts
April 23 2015 20:53 GMT
#12421
If you're so short on time, why the hell have you chosen Java for such a simple project? I believe you could have done it in a day or two with PHP and JS...
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
April 23 2015 21:30 GMT
#12422
On April 24 2015 05:53 Manit0u wrote:
If you're so short on time, why the hell have you chosen Java for such a simple project? I believe you could have done it in a day or two with PHP and JS...

You make it sound like Java can't do that project in a day either.

There's plenty of places to argue the pros and cons of different languages. A school project where someone is learning how systems and architectures work, and still learning to program, is really not one of them.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
April 23 2015 21:51 GMT
#12423
FFGenerations if you're going to work with java, please get a book on object oriented programming. It will help you out so much
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Khalum
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria831 Posts
April 23 2015 22:01 GMT
#12424
On April 24 2015 04:24 Ben... wrote:
I used to do that a ton, but force myself not to now. It would get to the point where I would stop being productive and start actually slowing my progress by adding buggy code that I would have to fight with later on once I had got some rest and was at least semi-awake again.

Energy is just as much of a resource for programmers as time is.


I'm not kidding when I say I believe that after 4 hours of actual work I start to suck at what I do.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17428 Posts
April 23 2015 22:28 GMT
#12425
On April 24 2015 06:30 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 05:53 Manit0u wrote:
If you're so short on time, why the hell have you chosen Java for such a simple project? I believe you could have done it in a day or two with PHP and JS...

You make it sound like Java can't do that project in a day either.

There's plenty of places to argue the pros and cons of different languages. A school project where someone is learning how systems and architectures work, and still learning to program, is really not one of them.


I never said it can't. What I'm saying is that doing your first real programming in Java, without prior experience is like shooting yourself in the foot. Sure, you can do some amazing things in Java when you're experienced enough to do it properly and know how to move around. Especially that what he did was a web api. For that PHP is just much simpler, which would make it easier for him. Especially that you don't have to do OOP in PHP if you don't want to and in Java you're pretty much forced to do it, which adds yet another layer of things you must get a hang of.

That's why I suggested PHP, simpler syntax, no compilation required, practically no external libraries, good documentation, easier to find help, perfect for small web apps if you're not an experienced programmer.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-24 01:15:35
April 23 2015 23:03 GMT
#12426
i like how my Conclusion is basically a sob story about what a dicker i am

also i have to reboot my computer to install Internet Explorer to test my application? not with this many windows open im not


ok deleted my conclusion and rewrote it so i sound cool and not like a sobstory

80 pages now.... need to edit/add the fucking PID, ethics doc, then clean code, then just colour the headings and resize the under-image size or maybe just make it italic

oh yeah anyone know what a CD is? apprently we have to "burn" one to submiit this idk what that is
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Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-24 01:40:24
April 24 2015 01:36 GMT
#12427
On April 24 2015 08:03 FFGenerations wrote:
oh yeah anyone know what a CD is? apprently we have to "burn" one to submiit this idk what that is


Predecessor of the DVD. Compact disc. ~700mb of storage.


On April 24 2015 08:03 FFGenerations wrote:
i like how my Conclusion is basically a sob story about what a dicker i am


Your personal conclusion should be that you were a lazy fuck who overestimated himself / underestimated the work. I mean you "almost" were able to do everything, right? Add 1 more month and how do you think your result would look like? (or from how much less stress you would've suffered)
You yourself wrote "ehh i better check for random timestamps incase they see i done the whole thing in a week".

The only good thing from all your posts here is hopefully a student realizing "I should start my assignments on time".

1 week before the deadline? Everything is functional & tested and only a bit of formatting / layout / documentation is left to do.

Never deployed a web app? Assume it takes you one week.

Backups? At least 3 (PC, Notebook, web). Assume it takes you one week to setup everything so you can use it properly.

Yes, all those "trivial" 1 week things will not take you one week. But there will be that one "trivial" thing which will take you one week. And you will be glad that you have extra time. If you finished earlier - who cares? Enjoy your free time.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
April 24 2015 03:35 GMT
#12428
On April 24 2015 08:03 FFGenerations wrote:
oh yeah anyone know what a CD is? apprently we have to "burn" one to submiit this idk what that is

I feel old.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Det1
Profile Joined September 2013
Canada45 Posts
April 24 2015 03:47 GMT
#12429
On April 24 2015 07:01 Khalum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 04:24 Ben... wrote:
I used to do that a ton, but force myself not to now. It would get to the point where I would stop being productive and start actually slowing my progress by adding buggy code that I would have to fight with later on once I had got some rest and was at least semi-awake again.

Energy is just as much of a resource for programmers as time is.


I'm not kidding when I say I believe that after 4 hours of actual work I start to suck at what I do.

There's all sorts of ways to deal with "not thinking right"
A good place to start is to find someone/something (a pet dog will do) and explain what it is you're trying to do to them.
After you get good at it you'll start doing these mental resets yourself - you'll do more reading than coding, which is good.
Eventually you;ll keep everything in your head.
...Which is not necessarily a good thing since you stop commenting and then you come back a year later and wonder what was it that you did.
Det1
Profile Joined September 2013
Canada45 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-24 03:48:37
April 24 2015 03:48 GMT
#12430
On April 24 2015 12:47 Det1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 07:01 Khalum wrote:
On April 24 2015 04:24 Ben... wrote:
I used to do that a ton, but force myself not to now. It would get to the point where I would stop being productive and start actually slowing my progress by adding buggy code that I would have to fight with later on once I had got some rest and was at least semi-awake again.

Energy is just as much of a resource for programmers as time is.


I'm not kidding when I say I believe that after 4 hours of actual work I start to suck at what I do.

There's all sorts of ways to deal with "not thinking right"
A good place to start is to find someone/something (a pet dog will do) and explain what it is that you're trying to do.
After you get good at it you'll start doing these mental resets yourself - you'll do more reading than coding, which is good.
Eventually you;ll keep everything in your head.
...Which is not necessarily a good thing since you stop commenting and then you come back a year later and wonder what was it that you did.

whoops. quoted myself.
Khalum
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria831 Posts
April 24 2015 07:22 GMT
#12431
On April 24 2015 12:47 Det1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 07:01 Khalum wrote:
On April 24 2015 04:24 Ben... wrote:
I used to do that a ton, but force myself not to now. It would get to the point where I would stop being productive and start actually slowing my progress by adding buggy code that I would have to fight with later on once I had got some rest and was at least semi-awake again.

Energy is just as much of a resource for programmers as time is.


I'm not kidding when I say I believe that after 4 hours of actual work I start to suck at what I do.

There's all sorts of ways to deal with "not thinking right"
A good place to start is to find someone/something (a pet dog will do) and explain what it is you're trying to do to them.
After you get good at it you'll start doing these mental resets yourself - you'll do more reading than coding, which is good.
Eventually you;ll keep everything in your head.
...Which is not necessarily a good thing since you stop commenting and then you come back a year later and wonder what was it that you did.


a) I can't take a dog to work. And even if I could, I probably wouldn't want to.
b) Usually the job involves way more reading than typing.

The thing with the comments... yeah. I tend to get lazy when I'm "in the zone" but that comes up during code reviews.

But that's not what I'm talking about. I did exaggerate when I said I "suck" but I get less productive even after taking breaks. I think something like 4 hours of work, 4 hours break, 4 hours of work could probably help with my productivity.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
April 24 2015 08:13 GMT
#12432
ok im done
uploaded everything here
i have to go buy a CD and find a computer with a CD burner and then try to get my project Printed and Bound somehow

http://www.filedropper.com/projectfinishedend
http://www.megafileupload.com/2EMv/PROJECT_FINISHED_END.zip
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17428 Posts
April 24 2015 08:39 GMT
#12433
On April 24 2015 16:22 Khalum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 12:47 Det1 wrote:
On April 24 2015 07:01 Khalum wrote:
On April 24 2015 04:24 Ben... wrote:
I used to do that a ton, but force myself not to now. It would get to the point where I would stop being productive and start actually slowing my progress by adding buggy code that I would have to fight with later on once I had got some rest and was at least semi-awake again.

Energy is just as much of a resource for programmers as time is.


I'm not kidding when I say I believe that after 4 hours of actual work I start to suck at what I do.

There's all sorts of ways to deal with "not thinking right"
A good place to start is to find someone/something (a pet dog will do) and explain what it is you're trying to do to them.
After you get good at it you'll start doing these mental resets yourself - you'll do more reading than coding, which is good.
Eventually you;ll keep everything in your head.
...Which is not necessarily a good thing since you stop commenting and then you come back a year later and wonder what was it that you did.


a) I can't take a dog to work. And even if I could, I probably wouldn't want to.
b) Usually the job involves way more reading than typing.

The thing with the comments... yeah. I tend to get lazy when I'm "in the zone" but that comes up during code reviews.

But that's not what I'm talking about. I did exaggerate when I said I "suck" but I get less productive even after taking breaks. I think something like 4 hours of work, 4 hours break, 4 hours of work could probably help with my productivity.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
April 24 2015 08:59 GMT
#12434
On April 24 2015 17:39 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 16:22 Khalum wrote:
On April 24 2015 12:47 Det1 wrote:
On April 24 2015 07:01 Khalum wrote:
On April 24 2015 04:24 Ben... wrote:
I used to do that a ton, but force myself not to now. It would get to the point where I would stop being productive and start actually slowing my progress by adding buggy code that I would have to fight with later on once I had got some rest and was at least semi-awake again.

Energy is just as much of a resource for programmers as time is.


I'm not kidding when I say I believe that after 4 hours of actual work I start to suck at what I do.

There's all sorts of ways to deal with "not thinking right"
A good place to start is to find someone/something (a pet dog will do) and explain what it is you're trying to do to them.
After you get good at it you'll start doing these mental resets yourself - you'll do more reading than coding, which is good.
Eventually you;ll keep everything in your head.
...Which is not necessarily a good thing since you stop commenting and then you come back a year later and wonder what was it that you did.


a) I can't take a dog to work. And even if I could, I probably wouldn't want to.
b) Usually the job involves way more reading than typing.

The thing with the comments... yeah. I tend to get lazy when I'm "in the zone" but that comes up during code reviews.

But that's not what I'm talking about. I did exaggerate when I said I "suck" but I get less productive even after taking breaks. I think something like 4 hours of work, 4 hours break, 4 hours of work could probably help with my productivity.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging

Only scary thing is when the Duck starts talking back.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Khalum
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria831 Posts
April 24 2015 09:22 GMT
#12435
On April 24 2015 17:39 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 16:22 Khalum wrote:
On April 24 2015 12:47 Det1 wrote:
On April 24 2015 07:01 Khalum wrote:
On April 24 2015 04:24 Ben... wrote:
I used to do that a ton, but force myself not to now. It would get to the point where I would stop being productive and start actually slowing my progress by adding buggy code that I would have to fight with later on once I had got some rest and was at least semi-awake again.

Energy is just as much of a resource for programmers as time is.


I'm not kidding when I say I believe that after 4 hours of actual work I start to suck at what I do.

There's all sorts of ways to deal with "not thinking right"
A good place to start is to find someone/something (a pet dog will do) and explain what it is you're trying to do to them.
After you get good at it you'll start doing these mental resets yourself - you'll do more reading than coding, which is good.
Eventually you;ll keep everything in your head.
...Which is not necessarily a good thing since you stop commenting and then you come back a year later and wonder what was it that you did.


a) I can't take a dog to work. And even if I could, I probably wouldn't want to.
b) Usually the job involves way more reading than typing.

The thing with the comments... yeah. I tend to get lazy when I'm "in the zone" but that comes up during code reviews.

But that's not what I'm talking about. I did exaggerate when I said I "suck" but I get less productive even after taking breaks. I think something like 4 hours of work, 4 hours break, 4 hours of work could probably help with my productivity.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging


Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
April 24 2015 09:34 GMT
#12436
Really FF you didn't know what a CD was? Holy shit... o_O

My coworkers have a lot of strategies to chill out. One of the senior devs will just take 2 hours off in the middle of the day and go to the gym for a bit. But he's really important so I'm not sure that works for everyone :p I find proper breaks every 30 minutes help as well as walking around a bit and joking with my co-workers.
There is no one like you in the universe.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-24 10:58:24
April 24 2015 10:57 GMT
#12437
Any Go(lang) experts here? How bad/stupid/terrible/crazy is it to have global channels? (channels declared in a file that all modules include and use)
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17428 Posts
April 24 2015 12:39 GMT
#12438

return undefined;


Fuck someone else's JS
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-24 13:53:22
April 24 2015 13:52 GMT
#12439
oc i know what a cd is i just didnt know people still used them, i havnt had a workign dvd drive for years let alone a cd

had to wait in a queue for 3 hours to get my project Bound. and before that spent £60 to print it in the library just incase . and the fucking page numbers incremented by 1 and the printer fucking put a couple of things on the wrong page contrarity to the fucking onscreen layout. and in the 3 hours i read it thru and saw a pretty shitty amoiount of dilerious spelling and grammar mistakes . but its OK on the whole, just not great

my head is spinning like crazy (not hurting literally spinning), i spent the last hour basically drunk as if i was on vodka . im finally home and got £20 worth of fast food

project : DONE
tomorrow .... math assignment !!!
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Cyx.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada806 Posts
April 25 2015 23:50 GMT
#12440
On April 24 2015 22:52 FFGenerations wrote:
oc i know what a cd is i just didnt know people still used them, i havnt had a workign dvd drive for years let alone a cd

had to wait in a queue for 3 hours to get my project Bound. and before that spent £60 to print it in the library just incase . and the fucking page numbers incremented by 1 and the printer fucking put a couple of things on the wrong page contrarity to the fucking onscreen layout. and in the 3 hours i read it thru and saw a pretty shitty amoiount of dilerious spelling and grammar mistakes . but its OK on the whole, just not great

my head is spinning like crazy (not hurting literally spinning), i spent the last hour basically drunk as if i was on vodka . im finally home and got £20 worth of fast food

project : DONE
tomorrow .... math assignment !!!

oh my god this reminds me of myself three years ago so much it literally hurts me
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