On June 27 2010 12:53 Robinsa wrote: Isnt it always like this when they host g8/g20? As far as I can remember it happends to some extent pretty much during every major interational summit.
That being said - I wouldnt mind them using live ammo vs these guys since Im 100% sure its the same guys traveling around the world looking for a fight. I think theyve been trying hard enough and its time for them to give them a beating.
as far as I'm concerned, all the security has it coming at an event like this. They put giant goons on the front lines with clubs and riot gear and say "feel free swing the club at anyone who gets within striking distance" They provoke people, and the real trouble makers never get caught. I didn't see anybody in black hoodies get arrested on tv, but I did see protesters getting hit and punched. Useless, all the those cops are useless goons who only aggravate the situation. Hell, I'd torch a cop car too if I was there.
On June 27 2010 13:01 alexpnd wrote: Economic summit? Do not break shit? I mean. I wouldn't break shit. I don't like the people who do. However keep in mind that our dollars pay for the tanks, helicopters and all sorts of goodies that make the manufacturers rich, and all because the upper-level government decides there's a "good reason" to go to war. I think the idea behind the vandalism is flawed, and it's really just a petty crime. It also shifts attention to negative aspects of people instead of the idea that "we the people matter".
It's not an economics summit. This isn't WTO or IMF. These are finance people. It's stuff like currency reform and interest rates.
On June 27 2010 13:01 alexpnd wrote: Economic summit? Do not break shit? I mean. I wouldn't break shit. I don't like the people who do. However keep in mind that our dollars pay for the tanks, helicopters and all sorts of goodies that make the manufacturers rich, and all because the upper-level government decides there's a "good reason" to go to war. I think the idea behind the vandalism is flawed, and it's really just a petty crime. It also shifts attention to negative aspects of people instead of the idea that "we the people matter".
It's not an economics summit. This isn't WTO or IMF. These are finance people. It's stuff like currency reform and interest rates.
from g-20 wiki " * the Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund * the Chairman of the International Monetary Fund * the President of the World Bank * International Monetary and Financial Committee * the Chairman of the Development Committee"
how could you called a g-20 summit not an economic summit lol... economic discussion (whatever it may be about) is the point of the whole thing.
LOLOLOLOL fucking hell, its hilarious watching ppl fail horribly at breaking windows. 1 guy tried using a sign post as a battering ram and just looked like a total tool as it didn't even crack the glass!!! Man if i had things my way anytime one of these little bitches did shit like this my Radioactive Gorilla Squad would pick em up just shake em violently for a while.
I mean seriously i understand they are pissed and in their mind probably have a good reason for it but breaking shit like a fucking moron does nothing constructive because no one for sure listens to you when you act like a child. And wtf is up with those stupid masks, if your going to do shit like this at least have the balls to show your face when you do it.
lol, how many different groups are there? I heard someone crying out for socialism, anarchy, less taxes, less banks, communism, equality. It's like everyone from every philosophy showed up.
As far as currncy manipulation though, yea these are the guys who win in the inflation war. When inflation happens, the banks win and every one loses. Also 0% interest rate with the goal of indebting the entire nation.
The purpose of the G[6,8,20] is to (at these three levels) discuss how the world's major/regional economic powers will dictate global finance policy. It's a strategy meeting for the big boys, and although the G20 invites some of the poorer nations to the table, they are still giants in their respective regions, and may only look to improve their own regional standing.
People demonstrate these meetings because the leaders invited are inextricably linked to backwards or unfair policies at home and abroad. Globalization good, exploitation bad.
On June 27 2010 13:40 darmousseh wrote: lol, how many different groups are there? I heard someone crying out for socialism, anarchy, less taxes, less banks, communism, equality. It's like everyone from every philosophy showed up.
Also keep in mind that anarchists, communists, socialists, and all-around pissed off people attend all sorts of events with the intent of upping the ante and trying to steal the spotlight for their cause, despite the presence of many peaceful individuals and groups with very valid complaints. I assure you (from my experience with demonstrations in the USA), the "anarchists" are in a very radical minority, although they are loudest and love intimidating the police.
It's also worth mentioning that police are known to incite violence through infiltrators in demonstrations. I was at one march and some guy was like, "hey let's throw stuff at the police" and everyone was like "lol gtfo cop!" and he ran off.
On June 27 2010 13:01 alexpnd wrote: Economic summit? Do not break shit? I mean. I wouldn't break shit. I don't like the people who do. However keep in mind that our dollars pay for the tanks, helicopters and all sorts of goodies that make the manufacturers rich, and all because the upper-level government decides there's a "good reason" to go to war. I think the idea behind the vandalism is flawed, and it's really just a petty crime. It also shifts attention to negative aspects of people instead of the idea that "we the people matter".
It's not an economics summit. This isn't WTO or IMF. These are finance people. It's stuff like currency reform and interest rates.
from g-20 wiki " * the Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund * the Chairman of the International Monetary Fund * the President of the World Bank * International Monetary and Financial Committee * the Chairman of the Development Committee"
how could you called a g-20 summit not an economic summit lol... economic discussion (whatever it may be about) is the point of the whole thing.
They're invited along, but the core of G20 meetings is about regulation and reform of financial institutions, and establishing global standards for banks. That affects economies, but it's completely separate from economics.
LOLOLOLOL fucking hell, its hilarious watching ppl fail horribly at breaking windows. 1 guy tried using a sign post as a battering ram and just looked like a total tool as it didn't even crack the glass!!! Man if i had things my way anytime one of these little bitches did shit like this my Radioactive Gorilla Squad would pick em up just shake em violently for a while.
I mean seriously i understand they are pissed and in their mind probably have a good reason for it but breaking shit like a fucking moron does nothing constructive because no one for sure listens to you when you act like a child. And wtf is up with those stupid masks, if your going to do shit like this at least have the balls to show your face when you do it.
WTF are the canadians doing? If I saw people was dismantling my city Id figure it was time to act! But everyone is just standing there with their stupid cameras and watching it go on. By the way, If you went out there with a rifle, took a few shots and rand I think you chances of getting away with it should be decent considering everyone is masked and you would dissappear in the masses quite fast?
I went to protest the G8 in Heiligendamm Germany. Police dressed up as "Anarchists" were actually trying to get voilent action going, encouraging others to throw stones. When they were identified they ran like shit towards their fellow officers.
another example:
to be clear, i dont think this protesting is going to do anything. the people who are meeting made it pretty clear they do not care at all.
On June 27 2010 13:40 darmousseh wrote: lol, how many different groups are there? I heard someone crying out for socialism, anarchy, less taxes, less banks, communism, equality. It's like everyone from every philosophy showed up.
On June 27 2010 13:55 Murmaider wrote: I went to protest the G8 in Heiligendamm Germany. Police dressed up as "Anarchists" were actually trying to get voilent action going, encouraging others to throw stones. When they were identified they ran like shit towards their fellow officers.
On June 27 2010 13:55 Murmaider wrote: I went to protest the G8 in Heiligendamm Germany. Police dressed up as "Anarchists" were actually trying to get voilent action going, encouraging others to throw stones. When they were identified they ran like shit towards their fellow officers.
Can someone explain to me why they do that?
They do that so that if the protesters attack first, then they look bad on whatever little news coverage they were going to receive and can't claim they were "peacefully" demonstrating. Peace activists use civil disobedience techniques and show restraint, anarchists try to get away with as much chaos as possible without getting arrested - both groups typically show up to the same demonstrations...
Second, it gives the police an excuse to retaliate and clear things up / make arrests / not just stand there and get ridiculed all day. Police really want to use their clubs. I'm serious, they are dying to crack some skulls.
On June 27 2010 13:55 Murmaider wrote: I went to protest the G8 in Heiligendamm Germany. Police dressed up as "Anarchists" were actually trying to get voilent action going, encouraging others to throw stones. When they were identified they ran like shit towards their fellow officers.
Can someone explain to me why they do that?
The mounties have been intimidating leaders and members of anarchist groups in Ontario for several weeks now leading up to this. At their homes, their work places, and even stalking them out when they go grocery shopping and etc. It's kinda lols.
The purpose of the undercovers is to provoke violence, give the other police an excuse to start spraying and hitting. That's usually what they do anyway, aside from ratting on / telling lies about the people they were with.
The motivation for the protests is not something that is easily explained in one forum post, especially to a normal person on a gaming forum. Although these are really inflammatory and have some bullshit in them, they capture the spirit and main ideas behind this protest in an entertaining fashion. I highly recommend watching it.