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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
June 27 2010 04:12 GMT
#61
On June 27 2010 12:30 Madkipz wrote:
they should have hosted it on an airship rather than have protesters and shit on their doorsteps xD

I gotta admit, that would be pretty cool.
hey, why not have it on a submarine as well? Or a space station?
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Mactavian
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada60 Posts
June 27 2010 04:16 GMT
#62
On June 27 2010 12:53 Robinsa wrote:
Isnt it always like this when they host g8/g20? As far as I can remember it happends to some extent pretty much during every major interational summit.

That being said - I wouldnt mind them using live ammo vs these guys since Im 100% sure its the same guys traveling around the world looking for a fight. I think theyve been trying hard enough and its time for them to give them a beating.


as far as I'm concerned, all the security has it coming at an event like this. They put giant goons on the front lines with clubs and riot gear and say "feel free swing the club at anyone who gets within striking distance" They provoke people, and the real trouble makers never get caught. I didn't see anybody in black hoodies get arrested on tv, but I did see protesters getting hit and punched. Useless, all the those cops are useless goons who only aggravate the situation. Hell, I'd torch a cop car too if I was there.
Nothing is impossible, only too expensive.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 27 2010 04:20 GMT
#63
On June 27 2010 13:01 alexpnd wrote:
Economic summit? Do not break shit? I mean. I wouldn't break shit. I don't like the people who do. However keep in mind that our dollars pay for the tanks, helicopters and all sorts of goodies that make the manufacturers rich, and all because the upper-level government decides there's a "good reason" to go to war. I think the idea behind the vandalism is flawed, and it's really just a petty crime. It also shifts attention to negative aspects of people instead of the idea that "we the people matter".

It's not an economics summit. This isn't WTO or IMF. These are finance people. It's stuff like currency reform and interest rates.
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Miss_Cleo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States406 Posts
June 27 2010 04:20 GMT
#64
I bet you if the LAPD was there the riot would've been dispersed in 3 minutes. And I thought Canadians were peaceful.
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
June 27 2010 04:25 GMT
#65
Some pictures from the day: http://thestar.blogs.com/photoblog/2010/06/peaceful-beginings-violent-ending-as-g20-protests-grip-toronto.html
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Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 04:35:17
June 27 2010 04:31 GMT
#66
On June 27 2010 13:20 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 13:01 alexpnd wrote:
Economic summit? Do not break shit? I mean. I wouldn't break shit. I don't like the people who do. However keep in mind that our dollars pay for the tanks, helicopters and all sorts of goodies that make the manufacturers rich, and all because the upper-level government decides there's a "good reason" to go to war. I think the idea behind the vandalism is flawed, and it's really just a petty crime. It also shifts attention to negative aspects of people instead of the idea that "we the people matter".

It's not an economics summit. This isn't WTO or IMF. These are finance people. It's stuff like currency reform and interest rates.


from g-20 wiki
"
* the Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund
* the Chairman of the International Monetary Fund
* the President of the World Bank
* International Monetary and Financial Committee
* the Chairman of the Development Committee"

how could you called a g-20 summit not an economic summit lol... economic discussion (whatever it may be about) is the point of the whole thing.
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Orangu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada198 Posts
June 27 2010 04:35 GMT
#67
On June 27 2010 11:50 JeeJee wrote:
http://watch.ctv.ca/news/latest/summit-protest/#clip318869
rofl
YEAH GUYS OUR CAUSE IS BROKEN WINDOWS
FUCK WINDOWS
THEY ARE RUINING MODERN LIFE


LOLOLOLOL fucking hell, its hilarious watching ppl fail horribly at breaking windows. 1 guy tried using a sign post as a battering ram and just looked like a total tool as it didn't even crack the glass!!! Man if i had things my way anytime one of these little bitches did shit like this my Radioactive Gorilla Squad would pick em up just shake em violently for a while.

I mean seriously i understand they are pissed and in their mind probably have a good reason for it but breaking shit like a fucking moron does nothing constructive because no one for sure listens to you when you act like a child. And wtf is up with those stupid masks, if your going to do shit like this at least have the balls to show your face when you do it.
THESE PRETZELS ARE MAKING ME THIRSTY!
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
June 27 2010 04:40 GMT
#68
lol, how many different groups are there? I heard someone crying out for socialism, anarchy, less taxes, less banks, communism, equality. It's like everyone from every philosophy showed up.

As far as currncy manipulation though, yea these are the guys who win in the inflation war. When inflation happens, the banks win and every one loses. Also 0% interest rate with the goal of indebting the entire nation.
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mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 04:50:57
June 27 2010 04:43 GMT
#69
The purpose of the G[6,8,20] is to (at these three levels) discuss how the world's major/regional economic powers will dictate global finance policy. It's a strategy meeting for the big boys, and although the G20 invites some of the poorer nations to the table, they are still giants in their respective regions, and may only look to improve their own regional standing.

People demonstrate these meetings because the leaders invited are inextricably linked to backwards or unfair policies at home and abroad. Globalization good, exploitation bad.

On June 27 2010 13:40 darmousseh wrote:
lol, how many different groups are there? I heard someone crying out for socialism, anarchy, less taxes, less banks, communism, equality. It's like everyone from every philosophy showed up.

Also keep in mind that anarchists, communists, socialists, and all-around pissed off people attend all sorts of events with the intent of upping the ante and trying to steal the spotlight for their cause, despite the presence of many peaceful individuals and groups with very valid complaints. I assure you (from my experience with demonstrations in the USA), the "anarchists" are in a very radical minority, although they are loudest and love intimidating the police.

It's also worth mentioning that police are known to incite violence through infiltrators in demonstrations. I was at one march and some guy was like, "hey let's throw stuff at the police" and everyone was like "lol gtfo cop!" and he ran off.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 27 2010 04:43 GMT
#70
On June 27 2010 13:31 Butigroove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 13:20 Jibba wrote:
On June 27 2010 13:01 alexpnd wrote:
Economic summit? Do not break shit? I mean. I wouldn't break shit. I don't like the people who do. However keep in mind that our dollars pay for the tanks, helicopters and all sorts of goodies that make the manufacturers rich, and all because the upper-level government decides there's a "good reason" to go to war. I think the idea behind the vandalism is flawed, and it's really just a petty crime. It also shifts attention to negative aspects of people instead of the idea that "we the people matter".

It's not an economics summit. This isn't WTO or IMF. These are finance people. It's stuff like currency reform and interest rates.


from g-20 wiki
"
* the Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund
* the Chairman of the International Monetary Fund
* the President of the World Bank
* International Monetary and Financial Committee
* the Chairman of the Development Committee"

how could you called a g-20 summit not an economic summit lol... economic discussion (whatever it may be about) is the point of the whole thing.
They're invited along, but the core of G20 meetings is about regulation and reform of financial institutions, and establishing global standards for banks. That affects economies, but it's completely separate from economics.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
June 27 2010 04:55 GMT
#71
On June 27 2010 13:35 TangJuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 11:50 JeeJee wrote:
http://watch.ctv.ca/news/latest/summit-protest/#clip318869
rofl
YEAH GUYS OUR CAUSE IS BROKEN WINDOWS
FUCK WINDOWS
THEY ARE RUINING MODERN LIFE


LOLOLOLOL fucking hell, its hilarious watching ppl fail horribly at breaking windows. 1 guy tried using a sign post as a battering ram and just looked like a total tool as it didn't even crack the glass!!! Man if i had things my way anytime one of these little bitches did shit like this my Radioactive Gorilla Squad would pick em up just shake em violently for a while.

I mean seriously i understand they are pissed and in their mind probably have a good reason for it but breaking shit like a fucking moron does nothing constructive because no one for sure listens to you when you act like a child. And wtf is up with those stupid masks, if your going to do shit like this at least have the balls to show your face when you do it.

WTF are the canadians doing? If I saw people was dismantling my city Id figure it was time to act! But everyone is just standing there with their stupid cameras and watching it go on. By the way, If you went out there with a rifle, took a few shots and rand I think you chances of getting away with it should be decent considering everyone is masked and you would dissappear in the masses quite fast?
4649!!
Murmaider
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany36 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 04:59:33
June 27 2010 04:55 GMT
#72
I went to protest the G8 in Heiligendamm Germany. Police dressed up as "Anarchists" were actually trying to get voilent action going, encouraging others to throw stones. When they were identified they ran like shit towards their fellow officers.

another example:



to be clear, i dont think this protesting is going to do anything. the people who are meeting made it pretty clear they do not care at all.
What the Hellion?
dvide
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom287 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 05:02:10
June 27 2010 04:58 GMT
#73
On June 27 2010 13:40 darmousseh wrote:
lol, how many different groups are there? I heard someone crying out for socialism, anarchy, less taxes, less banks, communism, equality. It's like everyone from every philosophy showed up.

Those things aren't necessarily mutually exclusive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_anarchism

Not that I agree with that shit. I'm an anarcho-capitalist so I do believe in private property.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 05:03:16
June 27 2010 05:01 GMT
#74
On June 27 2010 13:55 Murmaider wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrJ7aU-n1L8

Fuck, I wish they had used rubber bullets on that crowd.

"Do you think it's funny to mock our First Amendment rights? It's in The Constitution!"

What does that even mean?

"Remember Kent State" Really?
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 27 2010 05:04 GMT
#75
On June 27 2010 13:55 Murmaider wrote:
I went to protest the G8 in Heiligendamm Germany. Police dressed up as "Anarchists" were actually trying to get voilent action going, encouraging others to throw stones. When they were identified they ran like shit towards their fellow officers.


Can someone explain to me why they do that?
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 05:19:11
June 27 2010 05:06 GMT
#76
On June 27 2010 14:04 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 13:55 Murmaider wrote:
I went to protest the G8 in Heiligendamm Germany. Police dressed up as "Anarchists" were actually trying to get voilent action going, encouraging others to throw stones. When they were identified they ran like shit towards their fellow officers.


Can someone explain to me why they do that?

They do that so that if the protesters attack first, then they look bad on whatever little news coverage they were going to receive and can't claim they were "peacefully" demonstrating. Peace activists use civil disobedience techniques and show restraint, anarchists try to get away with as much chaos as possible without getting arrested - both groups typically show up to the same demonstrations...

Second, it gives the police an excuse to retaliate and clear things up / make arrests / not just stand there and get ridiculed all day. Police really want to use their clubs. I'm serious, they are dying to crack some skulls.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
June 27 2010 05:13 GMT
#77
On June 27 2010 14:04 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 13:55 Murmaider wrote:
I went to protest the G8 in Heiligendamm Germany. Police dressed up as "Anarchists" were actually trying to get voilent action going, encouraging others to throw stones. When they were identified they ran like shit towards their fellow officers.


Can someone explain to me why they do that?

The mounties have been intimidating leaders and members of anarchist groups in Ontario for several weeks now leading up to this. At their homes, their work places, and even stalking them out when they go grocery shopping and etc. It's kinda lols.
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
June 27 2010 05:14 GMT
#78
On June 27 2010 11:30 Severedevil wrote:
I FOUGHT THE LAW, AND I, BROKE SHIT
I FOUGHT THE LAW, AND I, BROKE SHIT

And i fucking missed it T_T
I am soooooooo disappointed.
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
June 27 2010 05:20 GMT
#79
On June 27 2010 14:14 nitram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 11:30 Severedevil wrote:
I FOUGHT THE LAW, AND I, BROKE SHIT
I FOUGHT THE LAW, AND I, BROKE SHIT

And i fucking missed it T_T
I am soooooooo disappointed.


I'm in the same boat brother

let's set up a TL meetup and go smash some windows then hit up a lan cafe lolol
Kk.
-fj.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Samoa462 Posts
June 27 2010 05:22 GMT
#80
The purpose of the undercovers is to provoke violence, give the other police an excuse to start spraying and hitting. That's usually what they do anyway, aside from ratting on / telling lies about the people they were with.

The motivation for the protests is not something that is easily explained in one forum post, especially to a normal person on a gaming forum. Although these are really inflammatory and have some bullshit in them, they capture the spirit and main ideas behind this protest in an entertaining fashion. I highly recommend watching it.


starts at 4 minutes 20 seconds


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