EPTG20 Protests Become Violent - Page 16
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Alou
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Potato Tree
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I thought the protests were about banks, but I saw some people protesting abortion rights? They had some coathanger. I also draw the line when you start covering your face. You can't protest and not suffer consequences. I wish they didn't do this in my city  | ||
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semantics
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That's about as valid as saying an anarchist did it. Obviously police broke storefronts and set cars on fire, sounds very paranoid doesn't it? Because you can't find a video where you see someone throw a firebomb onto a car you say it's the police, using your logic where is the video of the police setting their own cars on fire? Says more about you that you instantly go to the police were in the wrong not small parts of protesters which very easily could be violent anarchist. ![[image loading]](http://uppix.net/5/b/d/2170bb208dffc25ee8f4f41ab3190.jpg) Cars were set on fire and storefronts broken in. Now is it more likely that the police did that or a small number of protesters. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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Vedic
United States582 Posts
Would you like more examples, or would you prefer to be the ignorant one in this situation? | ||
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semantics
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On June 28 2010 13:55 Alou wrote: Even if a protestor sets a car on fire or damages property, how does that give them the right to break up other protestors if they are being peaceful. I understand police need to maintain peace, but they can do that while letting people protest peacefully as well. It goes aganist the permit you were issued at least in the US. When you protest, you protest as a group and the group is responsible for everyone actions. If someone is about to throw a Molotov Cocktail or break into a storefront, stop them, you're protesting for the betterment of your public but your too pussy shit to stop someone from doing wrong, what you're only capable of shouting about what is being done wrong, oh wait you're waiting for the police to stop that, but then if the police have to stop that they have to assume it will only get worse from there, as police are taught to be paranoid. And so they break up the protest. =p They will order everyone to disperse, give it some time if that does not take they usually will announce the use of force, usually following pushing the crowd back then tear gas if it escalates from there. | ||
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semantics
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On June 28 2010 14:05 travis wrote: semantics why were abandoned cop cars sitting in the middle of the street despite the enormous police presence in the city? Police cars were used as barricades to draw lines =p when lines. Police cars are also used to break up crowed by driving slowing into them with the sirens on saying to disperse, they can't run over people and if the people stop the card get rough the police officers will abandon the car =p Shit maybe you should also complain about all the abandon police bicycles obvious set up. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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the abandoned cop car i nthe middle of the street - 1 cop car - no cops nearby explain how it's being used in any of the ways you describe ? | ||
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AmbitiousNub
United States44 Posts
On June 28 2010 14:05 travis wrote: semantics why were abandoned cop cars sitting in the middle of the street despite the enormous police presence in the city? This is an enormously valid point. The fact that there are no police nearby is also sketchy. Where's the owner? | ||
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semantics
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On June 28 2010 14:05 Vedic wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St1-WTc1kow Would you like more examples, or would you prefer to be the ignorant one in this situation? Oh shit anecdotal testimony from people that is 3 years old. Fuck proof beyond a doubt. | ||
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yB.TeH
Germany414 Posts
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semantics
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On June 28 2010 14:12 travis wrote: you'll argue anything to keep trying to be right, won't you? the abandoned cop car i nthe middle of the street - 1 cop car - no cops nearby explain how it's being used in any of the ways you describe ? You've never been in a oakland riot police cars aren't abandoned in a nice neat row they are usually in the middle of the street next to no where. | ||
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
On June 28 2010 14:11 semantics wrote: Police cars were used as barricades to draw lines =p when lines. Police cars are also used to break up crowed by driving slowing into them with the sirens on saying to disperse, they can't run over people and if the people stop the card get rough the police officers will abandon the car =p Shit maybe you should also complain about all the abandon police bicycles obvious set up. I'm no riot police or anything, but with the sinful budget and the number of police, are you saying that a foot escort wasn't more viable? Doesn't look like draw lines to me. | ||
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Vedic
United States582 Posts
On June 28 2010 14:14 semantics wrote: Oh shit anecdotal testimony from people that is 3 years old. Fuck proof beyond a doubt. A video FROM CANADA showing undercover police, attempting to incite violence through the throwing of dangerously large stones, and getting shunned by peaceful protesters. Want to try that again? | ||
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AmbitiousNub
United States44 Posts
On June 28 2010 14:14 semantics wrote: Oh shit anecdotal testimony from people that is 3 years old. Fuck proof beyond a doubt. Proof you don't do research. | ||
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semantics
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On June 28 2010 14:17 Motiva wrote: I'm no riot police or anything, but with the sinful budget and the number of police, are you saying that a foot escort wasn't more viable? Doesn't look like draw lines to me. It's a clear indicator to people, sirens light and the bullhorn on a car to most people is enough to get the point of leave, break up disperse etc. It's also less hostile and people are more likely to respond to it, vs instant escalation when people see a row of riot gear police officers getting ready to push you back. Unless you have a long standing solid proof of high up police conspiracy and corruption dealing with canada i don't see why you question the police first rather then question a few people protesting. | ||
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
On June 28 2010 14:17 semantics wrote: You've never been in a oakland riot police cars aren't abandoned in a nice neat row they are usually in the middle of the street next to no where. Would you say there is a difference between a riot (and G20 was far from a riot) breaking out semi-spontaneously and one that could have been predicted over a year in advance? | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On June 28 2010 14:17 semantics wrote: You've never been in a oakland riot police cars aren't abandoned in a nice neat row they are usually in the middle of the street next to no where. so that's your answer? that's all you've got? I hope everyone is smart enough to see right through this stupidity. | ||
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semantics
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On June 28 2010 14:20 AmbitiousNub wrote: Proof you don't do research. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl3_4BTOavY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrJ7aU-n1L8&feature=related I was not given that information in the video before that. All i could make out is people saying they are police but nothing else from that, thus it's anecdotal and from people who clearly are on one side. Give the good proof before hand not after atleast in this video i have news telling me that they are indeed verified as police officers. In which case why doesn't this bring up crap about police conduct in Canada. Crap like this in the US would cause resignations of police chiefs in America, and i've seen police chiefs go down for less. =p | ||
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
On June 28 2010 14:21 semantics wrote: It's a clear indicator to people, sirens light and the bullhorn on a car to most people is enough to get the point of leave, break up disperse etc. It's also less hostile and people are more likely to respond to it, vs instant escalation when people see a row of riot gear police officers getting ready to push you back. Unless you have a long standing solid proof of high up police conspiracy and corruption dealing with canada i don't see why you question the police first rather then question a few people protesting. I don't see how proof is relevant, do you have PROOF to the contrary? lol. I question everything, I don't see why you find anything exempt from questions? | ||
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