EPThttp://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/08/23/police-montebello.html
edit: lol, my bad.
G20 Protests Become Violent - Page 18
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koreasilver
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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/08/23/police-montebello.html edit: lol, my bad. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
The nature of the clashes between police and protesters has little to do with the real problems behind globalization. Oh, of course, the violence is all instigated by undercover policemen -_- Most here should know that some people are out for violence, and protests such as these are exactly what those people see as an opportunity. edit: The story from Quebec is nothing more than a story of stupid undercover policemen to me. Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On June 29 2010 01:19 Maenander wrote: Those are massed police forces and they show behaviour typical of an armed organized force. One can see fear in their tactics. Their behaviour is best explained by psychology and not by some secret agenda. how many of the videos have you watched? have you not read about the snatch and grab tactics? grabbing people sleeping in their homes and hotel rooms? have you not watched the groups of policeman rush out and grab people from within the protestors and pull them behind the police lines? The nature of the clashes between police and protesters has little to do with the real problems behind globalization. I am not sure what you mean by this. Oh, of course, the violence is all instigated by undercover policemen -_- Most here should know that some people are out for violence, and protests such as these are exactly what those people see as an opportunity. no one said it all is.. but at least some of it has been? you think that isn't a big deal? edit: The story from Quebec is nothing more than a story of stupid undercover policemen to me. Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity you're the one that is being stupid. you think those policemen decided on their own to go undercover? are you kidding me? the quebec police later even admit they were undercover on orders why don't you watch the video ambitiousnub posts on page 17, where the guy asks if there will be agent provocateurs used at the g20 summit, and the reply is "he isn't at liberty to discuss it"? you do realize that not only are agent provocateurs illegal, but snatch and grab tactics are also illegal, as are unlawful arrests, as are illegal search and seizures, as is police brutality. this should be obvious to people. jesus, care about your rights! defend them! or we are all going to lose them. we already are losing them. and it's going to be too late to do anything about it. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
On June 29 2010 01:48 travis wrote: how many of the videos have you watched? have you not read about the snatch and grab tactics? grabbing people sleeping in their homes and hotel rooms? have you not watched the groups of policeman rush out and grab people from within the protestors and pull them behind the police lines? I am not sure what you mean by this. no one said it all is.. but at least some of it has been? you think that isn't a big deal? you're the one that is being stupid. you think those policemen decided on their own to go undercover? are you kidding me? why don't you watch the video ambitiousnub posts on page 17, where the guy asks if there will be agent provocateurs used at the g20 summit, and the reply is "he isn't at liberty to discuss it"? you do realize that not only are agent provocateurs illegal, but snatch and grab tactics are also illegal, as are unlawful arrests, as are illegal search and seizures, as is police brutality. this should be obvious to people. jesus, care about your rights! defend them! or we are all going to lose them. we already are losing them. and it's going to be too late to do anything about it. Yes I have seen the video. I never said people shouldn't hold the police responsible, but this is an internal matter of the canadian police and has nothing to do with the cause of the protesters. All this fixation on the police and their illegal actions will get them nowhere. Most police forces on earth would have the same problems while doing large scale operations like this is all I am saying. You should also see that the task the police faces is nearly impossible, namely to prevent violence and destruction. The consequences are that police leaders will sanction dirty methods to succeed and that a typical war mentality is generated between protesters and the police. They hate each other and you can see that. This is not your friendly neighbour police force anymore, these are armed forces ready for violence. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
Smashing windows or the continued support of war in the middle east and the continued exploitation of indigenous and 3rd world peoples? | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On June 29 2010 02:21 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Which is more violent: Smashing windows or the continued support of war in the middle east and the continued exploitation of indigenous and 3rd world peoples? The only problem is that communists and anarchists have a long history of doing far more than merely smashing windows. There's no such thing as a "good" communist or anarchist. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On June 29 2010 02:33 xDaunt wrote: The only problem is that communists and anarchists have a long history of doing far more than merely smashing windows. There's no such thing as a "good" communist or anarchist. do you often say things with no basis whatsoever? there are millions of communists and anarchists in the world. are you trying to say that none of them are good people who want positive change in the world and want the best for everyone? also, what the hell does communism have to do with it, anyways? | ||
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Yurebis
United States1452 Posts
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koreasilver
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On June 29 2010 02:33 xDaunt wrote: The only problem is that communists and anarchists have a long history of doing far more than merely smashing windows. There's no such thing as a "good" communist or anarchist. You might as well say that there are no such thing as a "good" human. On June 29 2010 02:40 Yurebis wrote: I'm interested to hear about the long history of anarchists doing more than smashing windows tbh. Gandhi was influenced heavily by anarchism. It India's march to freedom was led by anarcho-pacifists. How quickly the world forgets that modern freedom was fought for by civilian oppositions across the world. | ||
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
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Yuljan
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Hitler came to power because people feared communists and their dangerously stupid ideas. | ||
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Fen
Australia1848 Posts
You may not be causing violence, but you are part of a crowd that is. Police must treat protesters as a crowd, not individuals. If the crowd is becoming violent, people who do not wish to become caught up in the police response should go somewhere else | ||
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Yurebis
United States1452 Posts
On June 29 2010 02:45 Yuljan wrote: they should just start a party and get voted if they want to be heard. The greens did it why cant the communists an anarchists do it? We got both parties in germany and noone votes them because everything they say is bullshit with some "but think about the poor children" shit and conspiracy theorys. If I had to chose between radical left and right partys I would always support the right partys. Hitler came to power because people feared communists and their dangerously stupid ideas. Anarchist party? rofl How about conceiving an atheist god too while you're at it? | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On June 29 2010 02:47 Yurebis wrote: Anarchist party? rofl How about conceiving an atheist god too while you're at it? \o/ | ||
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Yuljan
2196 Posts
 we even got a car driver party | ||
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Yurebis
United States1452 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
I wonder why. | ||
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koreasilver
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Yuljan
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On June 29 2010 02:33 xDaunt wrote: The only problem is that communists and anarchists have a long history of doing far more than merely smashing windows. There's no such thing as a "good" communist or anarchist. And the wealthy policy makers have a long history of exploiting indigenous peoples and the working classes, polluting the natural environment, starting wars to serve their own interests, and staging coups to install puppet leaders. Gee, what could it be that people are so angry about? | ||
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