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so i finally got hired for the first time (hurrah) after filling out about 30 applications for a summer job. i got hired at a small private owned Italian restaurant. my position is backup delivery boy/salad boy/ dishwashing boy. i finished my training and the boss is now gonna pay me through checks instead of under the table (had to fill out the employment paper).
however i just realized a dilemma....
im gonna be paid below minimum wage (cause i am technically a delivery boy thus i can receive tips). i get paid 6.50$ an hour. my friend (who hooked me for the job) is the main delivery driver. he does his job and delivery orders come at a even pace where he can get back and have another order to deliver again. i am the back up...thus i wont deliver as much probably as him thus i wont get tipped as much thus my below min. wage wont be justified without the tip.
should i be worried? i feel that the boss would have to give me a chance to at least run some deliveries to compensate my below min. wage. and plus if he reports in my payroll and the income wouldnt the IRS smell something funny if they see my paycheck too little with no tips reporting in.
i would hate to think im gonna be paid 6.50 to be doing dishes and salad when the guy doing the samething is getting paid at least min. wage you know.
p.s:
i realize my other options could be just to quit or to request not being delivery boy and just fill in the salad or dishwashing to bump my wage up. if my theory is wrong (if boss doesnt have to send me on deliveries) then i guess ill have to consider these options. 
p.s.s i apologize for any mistakes or if the thread doesnt belong here. but would appreciate help thanks.
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welcome to the business world where everything is a swindle against your favor when you are at the bottom
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6.50 an hour?!!?
what state are you from?
cause in new jersey its 7.25
my first job (currently) i got paid 8 dollars an hour.
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It is illegal to be paid less than minimum wage. Yes there is a minimum wage for tipped people, but you have to report tips. If your hourly+tips does not add up to be minimum wage the employer must make up the difference to get you to minimum wage. This is how it works for wait staff too, back when I waited tables I was paid $4.50 an hour and had to declare a minimum of $3 per hour otherwise the restaurant would have to make up the difference to $7.50 an hour.
Ex. I get $4.50/hr and get tipped $2.00/hr which is below minimum wage at $7.50/hr. My employer automatically must pay me $5.50/hr that week otherwise I would make under minimum wage and the employer would get a huge fine.
This stuff happens automatically at restaurants, the person who does the books knows what they have to do.
Oh and if your employer tries to be a scumbag and pull a fast one on you bring him over to the mandatory posted minimum hourly sheet and say you'll call the number. If he fires you for that he's in a huge amount of trouble.
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On June 18 2010 11:04 revy wrote:
It is illegal to be paid less than minimum wage. Yes there is a minimum wage for tipped people, but you have to report tips. If your hourly+tips does not add up to be minimum wage the employer must make up the difference to get you to minimum wage. This is how it works for wait staff too, back when I waited tables I was paid $4.50 an hour and had to declare a minimum of $3 per hour otherwise the restaurant would have to make up the difference to $7.50 an hour.
Ex. I get $4.50/hr and get tipped $2.00/hr which is below minimum wage at $7.50/hr. My employer automatically must pay me $5.50/hr that week otherwise I would make under minimum wage and the employer would get a huge fine.
This stuff happens automatically at restaurants, the person who does the books knows what they have to do.
Fact so bascaly if you dont do diliveries they must pay you minnium wage, just look at your check carefuly and make sure it is being done
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When I delivered pizzas I got minimum wage ($8.40) plus delivery fee ($1.25) plus tips.
I'm surprised it's legal to pay you a base salary below minimum wage. Those wacky Americans.
On June 18 2010 11:04 revy wrote:
It is illegal to be paid less than minimum wage. Yes there is a minimum wage for tipped people, but you have to report tips. If your hourly+tips does not add up to be minimum wage the employer must make up the difference to get you to minimum wage. This is how it works for wait staff too, back when I waited tables I was paid $4.50 an hour and had to declare a minimum of $3 per hour otherwise the restaurant would have to make up the difference to $7.50 an hour.
Well that makes more sense.
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On June 18 2010 11:10 3clipse wrote:When I delivered pizzas I got minimum wage ($8.40) plus delivery fee ($1.25) plus tips. I'm surprised it's legal to pay you a base salary below minimum wage. Those wacky Americans. Show nested quote +On June 18 2010 11:04 revy wrote:
It is illegal to be paid less than minimum wage. Yes there is a minimum wage for tipped people, but you have to report tips. If your hourly+tips does not add up to be minimum wage the employer must make up the difference to get you to minimum wage. This is how it works for wait staff too, back when I waited tables I was paid $4.50 an hour and had to declare a minimum of $3 per hour otherwise the restaurant would have to make up the difference to $7.50 an hour.
Well that makes more sense.
That's America for you. Businesses try to suck a dollar from anywhere they can.
Except for In-n-out :D Praise the one-in-a-million fast food chain that pays $10.50 an hour.
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yea here (i live in fl). any sort of service that receives tips (like waiter,server, delivery person) they are usually paid below min. wage. however ever since delivery boy is considered the second (i think) most dangerous job companies now do min. wage. like i said mine is private small business. however the upside is that we serve only to a community that is full of above avg folks. so tips are like 5-10$ per trip (see now why i WANT the deliveries lol). the below min. wage is there to "compensate" the tips received...which is retarded but i am not here to argue about.
to revy: yea thats what i figured. its not a sketchy place so i think he does report the tips in. and thats what i figured cause if the irs got a hold of report from the job and they see my pay below obviously they are going to start asking questions. good to hear this though.ill make sure the check is right.
thanks a lot.
and yes america can be weird. how is other countries paying lol
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As my Grandfather told me when I got my first job, it will always be the shit end of the stick.
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Should you be worried? What about? You have a job. You have income. If you want better pay, keep applying for more jobs, but I'll tell you that you won't find much out there, both due to timing (economy still sucks) and due to your lack of job experience.
If you're concerned about getting jipped, just keep your own ledger of hours worked and tips received. Make sure they match up. A little bookkeeping can go a long way.
imo, enjoy the work, enjoy working with your bud, and don't blow all your money on stupid shit. You have it better than some of us.
EDIT: Grats on getting a job, man. I haven't been able to find one in... a very long time, and I have supervisor experience.
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Man you lucky scums. When I was in high school, and I was working, I was getting paid $5.75/hr (which was ABOVE minimum wage)
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to be honest, doing the dishes is one of the best things you could be doing if you are working in a restaurant. its an easy, mindless thing to do that passes time very fast, and if you wear gloves you wont be physically straining yourself in any way. waiting tables can actually be incredibly stressful depending on how busy the place is. cooking or preparing food is the WORST. ive never done delivery but that sounds like it wouldnt be too bad either.
btw, if you're still in high school or college, the absolute best part time job is to find some asian kids, befriend their parents, and then offer to tutor them in something. back in senior year i used to make $40 an hour doing that shit, which is significantly more than I make now with an actual real job (kind of depressing now that i think about it)
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IMO get a job painting, landscaping, maintenance etc. If you look hard enough I'm sure you can find plenty of work for at least 10-15$ per hour busting your ass instead of delivering pizzas. Last summer I mowed lawns and it added up to ~$15 hour when I calculated driving time and gas/mower costs. Hell I evev got offered a job last summer to do drywalling for 20$ an hour starting (though that was during a huge construction labor shortage, and also, you don't want to be a drywaller unless you really need the money lol).
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On June 18 2010 11:52 Wangsta wrote:
to be honest, doing the dishes is one of the best things you could be doing if you are working in a restaurant. its an easy, mindless thing to do that passes time very fast, and if you wear gloves you wont be physically straining yourself in any way. waiting tables can actually be incredibly stressful depending on how busy the place is. cooking or preparing food is the WORST. ive never done delivery but that sounds like it wouldnt be too bad either.
btw, if you're still in high school or college, the absolute best part time job is to find some asian kids, befriend their parents, and then offer to tutor them in something. back in senior year i used to make $40 an hour doing that shit, which is significantly more than I make now with an actual real job (kind of depressing now that i think about it)
yup tutoring is good as well. Hell I'm sure you can find some old lady who wants some work done around her house that will pay you 10-20 bucks an hour. Minimum wage sucks.
Does your gas get expensed? Otherwise you are really making more like 2$ an hour lol.
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Whenever you get paid below minimum wage at a job if you don't make enough tips to put you at making = minimum wage then your employer (by law) has to make up the difference. If he doesn't then you can file charges against him and I think the minimum he has to pay you if it comes to that is like $1,100.00 per offense or something like that. I hope it helps.  You don't have anything to worry about.
EDIT: I was beat to it, never mind.  In other words, keep your job man. It's WAY too hard to find a job now-a-days.
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my friend (the main delivery person) makes about 3k a month...so thats good money lmao.
i really want to do landscaping/maintenance kind of work like i wouldnt mind it. however now days everyone is requesting only for people with exp. and i cant find a job nor a company willing to put up with a noob *sigh.
the job i have now isnt bad at all. its not hard work either lol though it sucks when you are stationed till closing (cause you are the last person to leave period).
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When I worked as a busboy/dishwasher the waiters gave me a (small) portion of their tips. this is standard in most restaurants I believe, although it seems like it would have been mentioned to you if they did that at the place you are working.
IIRC, I was paid $7 an hour by the restaurant, and typically made another $2 per hour or so on weekdays, and an additional $5 per hour or so on weekends from tips. That was a decent paying summer job for the place and time (Minneapolis 5 years ago).
Strangely enough, I actually enjoyed the first two weeks or so of washing dishes. Whipping through it insanely fast, as we had to do, actually took some skill, which was entertaining while I was still learning. I also had some interesting co-workers. Fully 100% of the staff of the restaurant with the exception of myself and one friend were recovering alcoholics/drug addicts, so I got to hear a lot of "war stories". I also got to hear the enlightening opinions of my fellow dishwashers. My favorite, delivered in all seriousness, was that "The KKK is no big deal - its basically like the NAACP for white people."
Overall it was a good job experience for me. I learned that I didn't ever want to work in a restaurant again in any capacity, even though several of my friends have had relatively enjoyable/lucrative jobs as waiters and cooks. The misery of it (after the brief learning phase) also increased my motivation to get a better job, which I did the next summer.
I would definitely second others recommendation that you try tutoring if you can. Dog walking is good too if you like/are good with dogs. If you want to get people's money, get it through their children. Children and dogs. Tons of people who never buy luxuries for themselves will go crazy buying stuff for their dog/child.
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Talk to the manager or boss or who ever hired you. You need to express your situation. Tell him that you feel your getting cheated out of money because your not getting tips. If anything you should ask that he pay you min. wage when your washing dishes or prepping salads, if he says no accept it and keep working there while you look for a new job.
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I have a couple of friends who are waiters and my gf is a waitress and apparently that job means you'll have like $40 of change in your car at all times. Also if you're a female you'll get significantly more tips.
Apparently in Texas the employer doesn't have to pay the difference if you make less than the minimum wage... I don't know if that's true but yeah. Good ole' TX =D
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Wait for your first or second paycheck before you make any judgments about how much you're going to be making, and remember that some money is better than no money. Unless you hate the job and/or don't need the money that badly, I wouldn't quit unless you can get something else lined up first.
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