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ImAbstracT
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
519 Posts
June 21 2010 16:58 GMT
#41
On June 22 2010 01:53 15vs1 wrote:
Im working as a physicist at uranium enrichment plant and i get about 7$ per hour. So 6.5$ is not that bad for a first job.

I hear Iran is hiring these days.
"I want you to take a moment, and reflect, on how much of a failure you are" - IdrA
Deleted User 50491
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
721 Posts
June 21 2010 17:14 GMT
#42
On June 18 2010 11:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
As my Grandfather told me when I got my first job, it will always be the shit end of the stick.


Agree, and after passing through 2-3 jobs, I finally land a really good one while going to school @ 15$ /H
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-21 17:22:33
June 21 2010 17:18 GMT
#43
In most states your tips have to put you above minimum wage. You can get paid under minimum wage but ONLY if your tips and hourly wage add up to at least minimum wage. If they do not (ex: one week you only get 5$ total tips) the employer must fill in the gap. Check your states labor laws for more details. Unfortunately, most companies won't honor this. Especially one that had you working "off the books". Even if you go to labor law enforcement, you'll just end up loosing your job and this will also make it nearly impossible for you to get hired anywhere else.No one wants to hire a whistle blower. Besides that if you did work "off the books" than you are guilty of tax evasion because you agreed to it (unless you have or fully intended to declare all of your income and can prove it)
The government is very corrupt and they know you are powerless. If you state tries to pass a "right to work" type law, it's just to screw workers our of more rights. Just like how the "Patriot Act" goes directly against all of the principles this nation was founded on. Ben Franklin "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." or Patrick Henry "Give me liberty or give me death!" They're rolling in they're graves. It should be called the "Traitors Act" in that everyone who voted yes for it violated their oath of office and nobody even read it before they voted.
The "right to work" acts in many states should be called the "right to be treated the same as the illegal immigrant they'd rather hire" act.

So in the end you are supposed to get at least minimum wage no matter what. But whether or not you actually do get it and whether or not you can do anything about it without putting yourself in a worse situation is unknown. Hopefully you'll learn a lesson from this that is far more reaching than what you'll learn from just getting your first job. The little guy always gets screwed hardest and sometimes all you can do is be aware of injustice, no matter how badly it makes you grind your teeth you can't do shit.
:)
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
June 21 2010 17:23 GMT
#44
You can get a lot of money from tutoring in singapore... you could probably get a lot more money than $6.50/hour if you tutor some kid.
Number41
Profile Joined August 2008
United States130 Posts
June 21 2010 18:29 GMT
#45
Florida's minimum wage is $7.25.

Florida's tipped minimum wage $4.23. (FL min wage $7.25 minus $3.02 FLSA tip credit.)

If your tips do not put you at or over $7.25, the employer is required to make up the difference.

If the FLSA applies, and you feel that a substantial amount (20% or more) of your time is spent on non-tipped, general preparation or maintenance work, you could make an argument that you should be paid minimum wage for the time spent on that work. Section 30d00(e) of the Department of Labor’s Field Operations Handbook reads as follows:

(e) Reg 531.56(e) permits the taking of the tip credit for time spent in duties related to the tipped occupation, even though such duties are not by themselves directed toward producing tips (i.e. maintenance and preparatory or closing activities). For example a waiter/waitress, who spends some time cleaning and setting table, making coffee, and occasionally washing dishes or glasses may continue to be engaged in a tipped occupation even though these duties are not tip producing, provided such duties are incidental to the regular duties of the serve (waiter / waitress) and are generally assigned to the servers. However, where the facts indicate that specific employees are routinely assigned to maintenance, or that tipped employees spend a substantial amount of time (in excess of 20 percent) performing general preparation work or maintenance, no tip credit may be taken for the time spent in such duties.

I think that would be a waste of time, though; and it'd probably get you fired
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
June 21 2010 18:52 GMT
#46
If you want more money, make yourself more marketable. Go get an education, get a degree, and THEN if you are still not making enough, post a thread.
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
June 21 2010 19:32 GMT
#47
If you plan to get a post-secondary education and find a white-collar job, then your experience here does not matter to you and you should quit.
:]
madcow305
Profile Joined January 2010
United States152 Posts
June 22 2010 01:37 GMT
#48
On June 18 2010 11:04 revy wrote:
Oh and if your employer tries to be a scumbag and pull a fast one on you bring him over to the mandatory posted minimum hourly sheet and say you'll call the number. If he fires you for that he's in a huge amount of trouble.


You don't have much experience dealing with employers, do you?

If you make a ruckus over this, your boss doesn't have to fire you. He just has to make your job miserable, so that you'll quit voluntarily.

Example, he makes you do all the hard stuff like taking out the huge, 60pound garbage bags, every day, instead of having people take turns.

Or, he makes you work next to the oven, where it is blazing hot, every day, instead of changing shifts.

Or, when he makes the new schedule for the next week, he has you work from 9AM-11AM, then from 2PM-5PM, then from 7PM-10PM. That's still only 8 hours, but it's a shitty schedule. Or, he simply has you work 1 hour a week, under claims that "we don't have enough jobs for you to do." Essentially, he's laying you off/firing you, but without having to pay you severance.

And, he's violating no laws by doing the above, except maybe with the work scheduling issues.

Best advice for the OP in this situation? Quit, or man up and take it.

If you show your boss that you're a responsible, hardworking individual, he might boot one of the laziest kitchen staff, bump you up to that position, and give you a raise. Heck, since it's a small, family business, if you establish a good relationship with your boss, I'm sure he'll be willing to give glowing recommendations to any future employer you might have.

At worst, if your boss turns out to be an asshole and doesn't recognize your dedication, at least you can walk away then, with the knowledge that you did your best.
FreshVegetables
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Finland513 Posts
June 22 2010 01:41 GMT
#49
Wow I would never work for 6.5$/hour... My first summerjob when I was 16 I worked for 14.10$/hour.. and here I am still doing the same job this summer. Then again I guess the wages are a bit higher in Finland in general than in the US.
yummy tomatoes
daveydweeb
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia40 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 01:44:29
June 22 2010 01:43 GMT
#50
Posting to point out that the minimum wage here was just increased, and works out to be a little more than US$14/hr (even after the exchange rate flux). :3
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
June 22 2010 01:46 GMT
#51
6.50$? I think minimum wage here is like 8.75$
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
daveydweeb
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia40 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 01:47:15
June 22 2010 01:47 GMT
#52
It's the land of the free. You have the right to work no matter how little you get paid!
kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
June 22 2010 01:50 GMT
#53
On June 22 2010 02:18 Reborn8u wrote:If you state tries to pass a "right to work" type law, it's just to screw workers our of more rights.


What rights?

The only "rights" a right-to-work law abridges are the "rights" of unions to fuck the local economy right in the ass, and force up costs on everything.

Here's a blunt fact: you don't have a right to a job. You don't have a right to get paid above any particular amount.

Given that minimum wages are (unfortunately) already here to stay, just answer the OP's question instead of launching into this kind of ill-argued economically illiterate nonsense.
Like a G6
heroyi
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 02:00:29
June 22 2010 01:52 GMT
#54
you guyz dont really have to flame me for i was just asking if my concerns were true. i was just curious about my situation. but thanks for the rules and tips and what not.

anywhoo I read the "contract" or the employment papers and it says that the boss must make up the gap if it arise. so, im good and covered. no the boss isnt a dickwad and no i am NOT complaining about the job.



On June 22 2010 03:52 RoosterSamurai wrote:
If you want more money, make yourself more marketable. Go get an education, get a degree, and THEN if you are still not making enough, post a thread.


You really shouldn't jump to conclusions. I am 19 years old and am currently in "summer" vacation. I am a student of University of Florida (major in mechanical engineering) and now a sophmore (when fall rolls around). I, like many other COLLEGE students, are trying to get a degree so that way I can become "more marketable" and land a nice job. However, I have this SUMMER JOB to make money and gain experience in hopes of becoming "more marketable" to land a job in gainesville to make some revenue.



one step ahead of you buddy
wat wat in my pants
daveydweeb
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia40 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 02:08:07
June 22 2010 01:54 GMT
#55
Given that minimum wages are (unfortunately) already here to stay, just answer the OP's question instead of launching into this kind of ill-argued economically illiterate nonsense.


Fun fact: Australia, with one of the highest minimum wages in the OECD, is also the only OECD country to have avoided recession over the last two years. We also have the lowest unemployment in the developed world.

The only "rights" a right-to-work law abridges are the "rights" of unions to fuck the local economy right in the ass, and force up costs on everything.


How does it increase the cost of imported goods?
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
June 22 2010 02:01 GMT
#56
Stop complaining about minimum wages... we don't even have that...
FreshVegetables
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Finland513 Posts
June 22 2010 02:03 GMT
#57
On June 22 2010 11:01 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Stop complaining about minimum wages... we don't even have that...


In Finland? Oh yes we do.
yummy tomatoes
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
June 22 2010 02:04 GMT
#58
On June 22 2010 11:03 FreshVegetables wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2010 11:01 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Stop complaining about minimum wages... we don't even have that...


In Finland? Oh yes we do.


No we don't.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
June 22 2010 02:08 GMT
#59
There is no legislated minimum wage, but the law requires all employers, including nonunionized ones, to meet the minimum wages agreed to in collective bargaining agreements in each industrial sector. These minimum wages generally provided a decent standard of living for a worker and family.


http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2003/27836.htm

You couldn't even bother taking the 10 seconds to Google that?
twitch.tv/cratonz
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
June 22 2010 02:12 GMT
#60
On June 22 2010 11:08 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
There is no legislated minimum wage, but the law requires all employers, including nonunionized ones, to meet the minimum wages agreed to in collective bargaining agreements in each industrial sector. These minimum wages generally provided a decent standard of living for a worker and family.


http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2003/27836.htm

You couldn't even bother taking the 10 seconds to Google that?


I don't know who you meant but let me bold important points if it was me :D
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