EDIT: To clarify: I forgot to say that the original english soundtrack of the movie don't actually feature any "starcraft sounds", I was talking about a more recent version made for the DVD (with enhanced audio quality etc). I never implied that the original movie "borrowed" starcraft sounds HENCE the year in the title. Stop silly posts plz.
I watched this movie a long time ago when I was young and I've always been intrigued by the fact that I recognised Starcraft (BW of course) sounds in the DVD menu and in the movie itself! Which is really wierd since the movie is way older than the game.
I made a video to show this : (turn up the volume and listen closely)
As you can see, when leaving the menu, at the time the "door" opens you can clearly hear the sound of a terran building lifting off... And at the end, when Sigourney Weaver closes that door, it makes the sound of a dropship unloading an unit...
After a while I realised that this only occured on the french audio track, so maybe there just has been some starcraft fans in the alien post-production team who had some fun changing the sounds... Still, quite disturbing.
the movie and game industries have always used a kind of sound bank for a lot of their sounds. the lift off building isn't a starcraft original, as far as i can tell.
On June 17 2010 21:26 dasanivan wrote: the movie and game industry has always used a kind of sound bank for a lot of their sounds. the lift off building isn't a starcraft original, as far as i can tell.
Yeah, you can hear very familar starcraft sounds in a couple of movies, which is most likely due to purchasing and using the same sound samples.
You have quite a theory there, lol. "starcraft fans in the alien post-production team who had some fun changing the sounds" There are Alien sounds in Starcraft, not the other way around, so it's not weird that Alien was sooner :-p
It's not just effects, the terran dropship says the exact lines of the dropship in Alien 2 ("Aliens")
There is alot of people who have the idea that Zerg represent alot of what the Alien's from Alien did. I personally think of Zerg as more of a slight deviation from the Aliens in Starship troopers... Great movie.
I heard one guy who thought that Sc was a rip off of AvP, Alien = Zerg, Protoss = Predator and Terran = humans.. I can see some small resambalence but i doubt he is correct.
i remember the first time i saw that movie and i thought the dropship pilot similarity to be too similar for it to be a coincidence. more like an homage than copying though.
They're stock sound effects, like stock photography. Wilhelm scream is a popular example, and the academy sound (though I forget the name of it). The lift sound is also used in Quake (1996).
On June 17 2010 21:28 538 wrote: You have quite a theory there, lol. "starcraft fans in the alien post-production team who had some fun changing the sounds"
Lol I thought that just because in the english version it's a different sound. And btw that dropship video gave me the chills
On June 17 2010 21:28 538 wrote: You have quite a theory there, lol. "starcraft fans in the alien post-production team who had some fun changing the sounds" There are Alien sounds in Starcraft, not the other way around, so it's not weird that Alien was sooner :-p
It's not just effects, the terran dropship says the exact lines of the dropship in Alien 2 ("Aliens")
The entertainment industry recycles sound effects all the time.
EDIT: for people to get a grasp just how often they recycle here is a compilation of Wilhelm.
Wilhelm was an voice actor who recorded a scream for a character that was close to dying. This scream has since then been in countless movies, including back to the future, indiana jones and starwars. Bellow is a compilation of some of the movies this scream appears in.
On June 17 2010 21:45 Integra wrote: The entertainment industry recycles sound effects all the time.
Thanks for the one line contribution? No examples? I agree to some extent, but with every form of media, it seems like every Sci-Fi movie has some sort of standard set by Star Wars, or every fantasy epic seems to have its standards set by LoTR. Whats more likely is that something will define itself as a genre, and everything created under that genre has to copy a small amount of it to become part of the genre.
On June 17 2010 21:45 Integra wrote: The entertainment industry recycles sound effects all the time.
Thanks for the one line contribution? No examples? I agree to some extent, but with every form of media, it seems like every Sci-Fi movie has some sort of standard set by Star Wars, or every fantasy epic seems to have its standards set by LoTR. Whats more likely is that something will define itself as a genre, and everything created under that genre has to copy a small amount of it to become part of the genre.
I edited my post above with a very good example just how extreme they recycle.
On June 17 2010 21:35 nttea wrote: In civilization2, they use the same fighting sounds as in the monty python movie search for the holy graal, in the black knight encounter at least.
On June 17 2010 21:35 stafu wrote: They're stock sound effects, like stock photography. Wilhelm scream is a popular example, and the academy sound (though I forget the name of it). The lift sound is also used in Quake (1996).
There are still people these days still don't know how heavily SC borrows from Aliens? Besides all the lines from the dropship pilot, there is also the Terran Marine who borrows lines like "How do I get out of this chickenshit outfit?" - Hudson
There is also the Hydralisk which features the same toothy grin and long head shape as the Alien from the movies.
And don't forget how the Confederacy's treatment of the Zerg is almost textbook Weyland-Yutani. The UED as well.
Blizzard chooses their sources well, Aliens is one of my favorite movies of all time.
To me this thread seems about as ridiculous as someone saying that the governor of California is copying the Thor pilot. Blizzard likes to respect classic nerd entertainment by adding pieces of it in their games. The similarities between WoW Arthas and LOTR Sauron are an easy and obvious example, and there are many more. Most, if not all, of Starcraft can be traced back to classic science fiction, and the references could probably fill a book.
I enjoyed that a lot. It seems though that most of the recycled animation was used for cheaper films: I've never seen the one with the fox (robin hood retelling?), or the one with the cats. As an animation company, it makes a lot of sense for them to trace over old lines and only change small details... It takes hundreds of thousands of man hours to make those films
I remember i once heard the scream you get from clicking on T academy in Prison Break when that badass villain chick broke out from some sort of rape basement :| The sound played when she killed a guard. Im 100% it was the same sound.
yeah, i've seen these before, it's really interesting i found. i discovered another related youtube video awhile ago, i found it just as interesting though it relates to music instead of movies it still deals with a reused sound effect
Another famous "scream". The Howie Scream that is used commonly in several movies. Notice how our beloved Terran Academy also features the exact same sound. Why? I'm not sure lol.
The Scream from the Terran Academy is called 'Gut-renching scream while fading into the distance' and has been used in countless movies prior to the release of SC (this scream is not the same as the Wilhelm, but it is the same principle in its wide-spread use).
Edit: I've never heard it called the Howie scream before.
terran dropships says this im not mistaken. We're in the pipe, five by five quote from Aliens (1986) Ferro: [as dropship enters atmosphere] We're in the pipe, five by five
i have heard the sound that units do when fighting in AOE2 in movies involving swords fights, i swear i thought it was mere coincidence, god bless tl.net :D
In the Brothers Grimm film they use the same sound as in Warcraft 3 when it goes from day to night (the wolf scream + some of instruments fading out).
On June 18 2010 01:32 Dataleif wrote: terran dropships says this im not mistaken. We're in the pipe, five by five quote from Aliens (1986) Ferro: [as dropship enters atmosphere] We're in the pipe, five by five
That's not a reuse of a sound, it's an Easter Egg. There are a ton of these in the unit quotes, almost all of them.
First noticed this scream thing when I played Unreal years ago. All kinds of screams and yells in the background in the opening level are used all over the place in TV shows movies and games. Occasionally hear that hilariously long and overdone "Eeeh aahh ooooh! Uurgghh!" one from time to time.
This thread so silly. You're a silly man. I laughed (with you) for quite some time on the fact that somehow you would watch a 1979 film, hear a sound that sounds like a SC sound, then immediately that the 1979 film was influenced by Starcraft.
On June 18 2010 03:37 Half wrote: This thread so silly. You're a silly man. I laughed (with you) for quite some time on the fact that somehow you would watch a 1979 film, hear a sound that sounds like a SC sound, then immediately that the 1979 film was influenced by Starcraft.
Silly silly silly ^_^
The OP was actually about a more recent French DVD version of Aliens. Not the original film.
There was no DVD menu and it used a different sound for the door in the original
The OP was actually about a more recent French DVD version of Aliens. Not the original film.
There was no DVD menu and it used a different sound for the door in the original
THANK YOU! Finally someone who knows how to read.
On June 18 2010 03:37 Half wrote: This thread so silly. You're a silly man. I laughed (with you) for quite some time on the fact that somehow you would watch a 1979 film, hear a sound that sounds like a SC sound, then immediately that the 1979 film was influenced by Starcraft.
Silly silly silly ^_^
I'm know the one laughing at your silliness hehe ^_^
In the South Park Episode "The Jeffersons" they also use a soundtrack which is quite familiar from Heroes of Might and Magic 3, haven't been able to find any links showcasing this though.
The "scream" used in SC1 when you click on the terran academy is also used in Half Life 2 in the Ravenholm levels (when those fast zombies come you'll recognise them because of their scream).
SC-sounds start at 05.09, pretty easy to identify. (video lags like hell unfortunatelly)
Watch the whole thing for context, it's a great piece of the old Daily Show at it's best.
Not sure if the sound is originally from SC though, after scrolling through the thread.
I hope this is reason enough to bump this thread. I was sure this topic was brought up at some point so I looked for it. Some people who weren't around at the time might enjoy reading it, too. Unfortunatelly not all vids are working. Maybe there are new examples that people found in the meantime, always fun to watch/hear. It's like a secret sound-net spread around the media only we can hear.
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