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Starcraft sounds in Ridley Scott's ALIEN (1979)

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axwell
Profile Joined June 2010
62 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-17 19:16:35
June 17 2010 12:23 GMT
#1
EDIT:
To clarify: I forgot to say that the original english soundtrack of the movie don't actually feature any "starcraft sounds", I was talking about a more recent version made for the DVD (with enhanced audio quality etc).
I never implied that the original movie "borrowed" starcraft sounds HENCE the year in the title.
Stop silly posts plz.

I watched this movie a long time ago when I was young and I've always been intrigued by the fact that I recognised Starcraft (BW of course) sounds in the DVD menu and in the movie itself! Which is really wierd since the movie is way older than the game.

I made a video to show this :
(turn up the volume and listen closely)


As you can see, when leaving the menu, at the time the "door" opens you can clearly hear the sound of a terran building lifting off... And at the end, when Sigourney Weaver closes that door, it makes the sound of a dropship unloading an unit...

After a while I realised that this only occured on the french audio track, so maybe there just has been some starcraft fans in the alien post-production team who had some fun changing the sounds... Still, quite disturbing.

Any thoughts on this?
dasanivan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States532 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-17 12:28:06
June 17 2010 12:26 GMT
#2
the movie and game industries have always used a kind of sound bank for a lot of their sounds. the lift off building isn't a starcraft original, as far as i can tell.
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
June 17 2010 12:27 GMT
#3
On June 17 2010 21:26 dasanivan wrote:
the movie and game industry has always used a kind of sound bank for a lot of their sounds. the lift off building isn't a starcraft original, as far as i can tell.

Yeah, you can hear very familar starcraft sounds in a couple of movies, which is most likely due to purchasing and using the same sound samples.
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538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-17 12:30:49
June 17 2010 12:28 GMT
#4
You have quite a theory there, lol. "starcraft fans in the alien post-production team who had some fun changing the sounds"
There are Alien sounds in Starcraft, not the other way around, so it's not weird that Alien was sooner :-p

It's not just effects, the terran dropship says the exact lines of the dropship in Alien 2 ("Aliens")

Here's an example:
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axwell
Profile Joined June 2010
62 Posts
June 17 2010 12:31 GMT
#5
Pretty interesting, I didn't know about that. So they have a kind of a "shared sound database" where they can pick up samples when they need ?
Atlare
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia893 Posts
June 17 2010 12:31 GMT
#6
There is alot of people who have the idea that Zerg represent alot of what the Alien's from Alien did. I personally think of Zerg as more of a slight deviation from the Aliens in Starship troopers... Great movie.

I heard one guy who thought that Sc was a rip off of AvP, Alien = Zerg, Protoss = Predator and Terran = humans..
I can see some small resambalence but i doubt he is correct.
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Zortch
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada635 Posts
June 17 2010 12:32 GMT
#7
The academy scream sound shows up all the time :D.
I only recall from the Jackie Chan movie The Tuxedo though.
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stolensheep
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom306 Posts
June 17 2010 12:33 GMT
#8
I think what you really mean is "Ridley Scott's ALIEN (1979) sounds in Starcraft" not the other way around.
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skuj
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States302 Posts
June 17 2010 12:34 GMT
#9
i remember the first time i saw that movie and i thought the dropship pilot similarity to be too similar for it to be a coincidence. more like an homage than copying though.
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
June 17 2010 12:35 GMT
#10
In civilization2, they use the same fighting sounds as in the monty python movie search for the holy graal, in the black knight encounter at least.
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
June 17 2010 12:35 GMT
#11
They're stock sound effects, like stock photography. Wilhelm scream is a popular example, and the academy sound (though I forget the name of it). The lift sound is also used in Quake (1996).
axwell
Profile Joined June 2010
62 Posts
June 17 2010 12:36 GMT
#12
On June 17 2010 21:28 538 wrote:
You have quite a theory there, lol. "starcraft fans in the alien post-production team who had some fun changing the sounds"


Lol I thought that just because in the english version it's a different sound.
And btw that dropship video gave me the chills
Horiz0n
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Sweden364 Posts
June 17 2010 12:38 GMT
#13


:D
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
June 17 2010 12:43 GMT
#14
SCBW also shares sounds with Palahniuk's Fight club.
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AnodyneSea
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Jamaica757 Posts
June 17 2010 12:44 GMT
#15
On June 17 2010 21:28 538 wrote:
You have quite a theory there, lol. "starcraft fans in the alien post-production team who had some fun changing the sounds"
There are Alien sounds in Starcraft, not the other way around, so it's not weird that Alien was sooner :-p

It's not just effects, the terran dropship says the exact lines of the dropship in Alien 2 ("Aliens")

Here's an example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dXc2W1uWck


awe beat me to it, yeah i recognized this right away couple years back.. i think she says some more very similar lines too
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-17 13:00:41
June 17 2010 12:45 GMT
#16
The entertainment industry recycles sound effects all the time.

EDIT: for people to get a grasp just how often they recycle here is a compilation of Wilhelm.


Wilhelm was an voice actor who recorded a scream for a character that was close to dying. This scream has since then been in countless movies, including back to the future, indiana jones and starwars. Bellow is a compilation of some of the movies this scream appears in.



Another compilation:
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Atlare
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia893 Posts
June 17 2010 12:49 GMT
#17
On June 17 2010 21:45 Integra wrote:
The entertainment industry recycles sound effects all the time.


Thanks for the one line contribution? No examples?
I agree to some extent, but with every form of media, it seems like every Sci-Fi movie has some sort of standard set by Star Wars, or every fantasy epic seems to have its standards set by LoTR.
Whats more likely is that something will define itself as a genre, and everything created under that genre has to copy a small amount of it to become part of the genre.
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
June 17 2010 12:50 GMT
#18
On June 17 2010 21:49 Mecha_cl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2010 21:45 Integra wrote:
The entertainment industry recycles sound effects all the time.


Thanks for the one line contribution? No examples?
I agree to some extent, but with every form of media, it seems like every Sci-Fi movie has some sort of standard set by Star Wars, or every fantasy epic seems to have its standards set by LoTR.
Whats more likely is that something will define itself as a genre, and everything created under that genre has to copy a small amount of it to become part of the genre.

I edited my post above with a very good example just how extreme they recycle.
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Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
June 17 2010 12:57 GMT
#19
On June 17 2010 21:35 nttea wrote:
In civilization2, they use the same fighting sounds as in the monty python movie search for the holy graal, in the black knight encounter at least.


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axwell
Profile Joined June 2010
62 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-17 13:00:25
June 17 2010 12:59 GMT
#20
On June 17 2010 21:35 stafu wrote:
They're stock sound effects, like stock photography. Wilhelm scream is a popular example, and the academy sound (though I forget the name of it). The lift sound is also used in Quake (1996).


I see what you mean:

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