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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 04:28:46
May 31 2010 06:04 GMT
#1
Before I go on here are some illustrations of what I am talking about:

EDIT: The labels are wrong! The Canadian coins should flip horizontally and the American coins should flip vertically...
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Basically the Canadian and American coin flip differently. This got interesting for me because a month ago, I got a 5-cents euro coin (Portugal version). I wanted to figure out if I should rotate horizontally or vertically for it, but one side of it was like this:

[image loading]

So it was rather difficult to tell which side is up when I first got it; afterwards I gave it to a friend and forgot about it until now.

Now that I remembered this puzzling event I appeal to the international communities of TL: can you tell me how your coins work in your country (the way it rotates)?

Many thanks :D


UPDATE: Responses so far:
+ Show Spoiler +
Seems that only American and Korean coins flip vertically....
:]
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 06:17:39
May 31 2010 06:12 GMT
#2
I don't know how the rotation of coins are determined, but they surely are interesting. The United States and Canada work in opposite way when you flip a coin to the other side. Rotated horizontally, you would find that US coins should face up, while Canadian coins face down.

One interesting side factor about the rotation is that if a United States coin is flipped (say, horizontally) and the other side does not stand in the right direction, the coin had been produced as an error and is sought by coin collectors. The value would be determined by its face value and how "off" the other side is facing; for example, if you hold a quarter so George Washington's head is facing up and you flip it horizontally to find the eagle facing down, the coin would get its maximum value of around $50, if I recall properly.

Sorry for going off in my own world for a moment, I just find the world of numismatics so fascinating, couldn't resist

Example of a ~30 degree rotatied die error:

[image loading]
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
May 31 2010 06:49 GMT
#3
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Antiochus
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada548 Posts
May 31 2010 06:54 GMT
#4
I think your wrong with the Canadian example all of the spare change in my room rotates horizontally, cool thread though.
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
May 31 2010 06:55 GMT
#5
On May 31 2010 15:54 Antiochus wrote:
I think your wrong with the Canadian example all of the spare change in my room rotates horizontally, cool thread though.


How can that be.... I am Canadian too.
:]
killadevill
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada35 Posts
May 31 2010 07:09 GMT
#6
No idea, Canada dollar and 2 dollar both flip horizontally for me~
Antiochus
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada548 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 07:16:03
May 31 2010 07:15 GMT
#7
That is pretty weird I just went though about 100 different coins ranging between the 60's to 2010 and all of them rotated horizontally. Maybe the coins rotate differently in different parts of the country I'm in Ontario where are you?

This doesn't make any sense at all.
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 07:30:30
May 31 2010 07:22 GMT
#8
On May 31 2010 16:15 Antiochus wrote:
That is pretty weird I just went though about 100 different coins ranging between the 60's to 2010 and all of them rotated horizontally. Maybe the coins rotate differently in different parts of the country I'm in Ontario where are you?

This doesn't make any sense at all.



OK I think I made a silly mistake on the terminologies (I blame 3:30AM). I was thinking about the axis of rotation being "vertical". Let me fix that....

Antiochus I am really sorry! Slap me

On May 31 2010 16:24 eLiE wrote:
my ontario coins all rotated horizontal as well. what a funny thread


The silliness was unintentional
:]
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
May 31 2010 07:22 GMT
#9
Aussie coins flip horizontally
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
May 31 2010 07:24 GMT
#10
my ontario coins all rotated horizontal as well. what a funny thread
How's the weather down there?
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
May 31 2010 07:27 GMT
#11
uh this massachusetts quarter rotates vertically
50bani
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Romania480 Posts
May 31 2010 07:47 GMT
#12
It flips horizontally
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Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
May 31 2010 08:10 GMT
#13
everything but the american funny money seems to flip horizontally for me. canadian, czech crowns (old school!) and euros but everything i have in american is vertically. i blame their backwards imperial system!
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Odies
Profile Joined July 2003
Denmark275 Posts
May 31 2010 09:51 GMT
#14
Danish kroner flips horizantally
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
May 31 2010 11:25 GMT
#15
British pound also horizontal flippage.
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
May 31 2010 11:35 GMT
#16
Horizontal rotation on the dutch euro coins (and also on a coin with a head stretching the limits of available space)
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madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
May 31 2010 11:37 GMT
#17
japanese yen flips horizontally.
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 11:42:42
May 31 2010 11:42 GMT
#18
Yen also has horizontal "flippage".

*edit, too slow
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MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
May 31 2010 11:46 GMT
#19
how can u be not sure how the portuguese coin is in correct position?

Its written "portugal" on it......if thats in correct position(it is on ur pic) when the coin is in correct position....
do you fail to read the "portugal"?
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MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
May 31 2010 11:53 GMT
#20
Also it seems like every coin flips horizontally, just not the american ones....
Like the metric system...
Would be interesting to see how coins from myanmar or liberia since they also dont use the metric system
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Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
May 31 2010 12:01 GMT
#21
Norwegian Kroner report:
They all flip horizontally, except for the "50 øre" coin, which is 0.5 NOK, which either way you flipped it, you still had to do a 90 degree spin to line it up. Huh, weird.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
May 31 2010 12:23 GMT
#22
Korean Won... also flips __________, well you must have guessed it by now :p
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ilnp
Profile Joined December 2002
Iceland1330 Posts
May 31 2010 12:25 GMT
#23
On May 31 2010 15:12 ilovezil wrote:
I don't know how the rotation of coins are determined, but they surely are interesting. The United States and Canada work in opposite way when you flip a coin to the other side. Rotated horizontally, you would find that US coins should face up, while Canadian coins face down.

One interesting side factor about the rotation is that if a United States coin is flipped (say, horizontally) and the other side does not stand in the right direction, the coin had been produced as an error and is sought by coin collectors. The value would be determined by its face value and how "off" the other side is facing; for example, if you hold a quarter so George Washington's head is facing up and you flip it horizontally to find the eagle facing down, the coin would get its maximum value of around $50, if I recall properly.

Sorry for going off in my own world for a moment, I just find the world of numismatics so fascinating, couldn't resist

Example of a ~30 degree rotatied die error:

[image loading]


thanks, now i'll be checking both sides of every coin i ever get ever
8===D~~
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2745 Posts
May 31 2010 12:53 GMT
#24
On May 31 2010 20:46 MasterReY wrote:
how can u be not sure how the portuguese coin is in correct position?

Its written "portugal" on it......if thats in correct position(it is on ur pic) when the coin is in correct position....
do you fail to read the "portugal"?


Well, to be fair, if gaudi designed a church you wouldn't be able to tell the top appart from the bottom..

My euro's flip horizontally; btw 'flip horizontally' is an ambiguous term. If the coin lies in the vertical plane, The axis I flip it around is vertical; it's perpendicular to the horizontal plane. but the rotational movement lies in the horizontal plane.
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 13:34:31
May 31 2010 13:33 GMT
#25
On May 31 2010 20:46 MasterReY wrote:
how can u be not sure how the portuguese coin is in correct position?

Its written "portugal" on it......if thats in correct position(it is on ur pic) when the coin is in correct position....
do you fail to read the "portugal"?


I know what you are saying, but the problem is that the one I received was rather worn out so I couldn't identify the "POR" part.

On May 31 2010 21:53 Navane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 20:46 MasterReY wrote:
how can u be not sure how the portuguese coin is in correct position?

Its written "portugal" on it......if thats in correct position(it is on ur pic) when the coin is in correct position....
do you fail to read the "portugal"?


Well, to be fair, if gaudi designed a church you wouldn't be able to tell the top appart from the bottom..

My euro's flip horizontally; btw 'flip horizontally' is an ambiguous term. If the coin lies in the vertical plane, The axis I flip it around is vertical; it's perpendicular to the horizontal plane. but the rotational movement lies in the horizontal plane.



By horizontally, we all mean that it flips the same way as MS Paint.
:]
Master Shaman
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States57 Posts
May 31 2010 17:34 GMT
#26
On May 31 2010 21:25 ilnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 15:12 ilovezil wrote:
I don't know how the rotation of coins are determined, but they surely are interesting. The United States and Canada work in opposite way when you flip a coin to the other side. Rotated horizontally, you would find that US coins should face up, while Canadian coins face down.

One interesting side factor about the rotation is that if a United States coin is flipped (say, horizontally) and the other side does not stand in the right direction, the coin had been produced as an error and is sought by coin collectors. The value would be determined by its face value and how "off" the other side is facing; for example, if you hold a quarter so George Washington's head is facing up and you flip it horizontally to find the eagle facing down, the coin would get its maximum value of around $50, if I recall properly.

Sorry for going off in my own world for a moment, I just find the world of numismatics so fascinating, couldn't resist

Example of a ~30 degree rotatied die error:

[image loading]


thanks, now i'll be checking both sides of every coin i ever get ever

That should make for an interesting life.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
May 31 2010 18:56 GMT
#27
500 Yen flips horizontally, haven't checked the other ones yet, but probably horizontally as well.
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Rkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1278 Posts
May 31 2010 19:04 GMT
#28
i like all the arguing about coins going on here. very entertaining
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 31 2010 19:11 GMT
#29
Hehe, this is interesting =P never noticed
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19012 Posts
May 31 2010 19:31 GMT
#30
All American coins SHOULD flip vertically. I don't really know about Canadian money. I'm far south enough that I don't care.
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Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
May 31 2010 19:42 GMT
#31
On June 01 2010 04:31 tofucake wrote:
All American coins SHOULD flip vertically. I don't really know about Canadian money. I'm far south enough that I don't care.


Why should they? Is there some special reason for it?
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3972 Posts
May 31 2010 19:49 GMT
#32
Just checked a handful of Euro coins, they all flipped horizontally. So Americans are really special!
Zera
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania716 Posts
May 31 2010 20:02 GMT
#33
Lithuanian litas flips horizontaly also
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Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
May 31 2010 20:08 GMT
#34
singapore flips horizontally (at least for this 10 cent coin...)
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
May 31 2010 22:31 GMT
#35
On June 01 2010 02:34 Master Shaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 21:25 ilnp wrote:
On May 31 2010 15:12 ilovezil wrote:
I don't know how the rotation of coins are determined, but they surely are interesting. The United States and Canada work in opposite way when you flip a coin to the other side. Rotated horizontally, you would find that US coins should face up, while Canadian coins face down.

One interesting side factor about the rotation is that if a United States coin is flipped (say, horizontally) and the other side does not stand in the right direction, the coin had been produced as an error and is sought by coin collectors. The value would be determined by its face value and how "off" the other side is facing; for example, if you hold a quarter so George Washington's head is facing up and you flip it horizontally to find the eagle facing down, the coin would get its maximum value of around $50, if I recall properly.

Sorry for going off in my own world for a moment, I just find the world of numismatics so fascinating, couldn't resist

Example of a ~30 degree rotatied die error:

[image loading]


thanks, now i'll be checking both sides of every coin i ever get ever

That should make for an interesting life.


I already am checking both sides of every coin I get
:]
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
May 31 2010 22:41 GMT
#36
American quarters that I have:

1983: flip vertically
1995: flip vertically
1994: flip vertically
2001 Rhode Island: flip vertically
Captain Mayhem
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Sweden774 Posts
May 31 2010 22:48 GMT
#37
All swedish coins flip horizontally as well. 50 öre, 1kr, 5kr and 10kr.
Gravity is just a theory anyway.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19012 Posts
June 01 2010 03:43 GMT
#38
On June 01 2010 04:42 Saturnize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 04:31 tofucake wrote:
All American coins SHOULD flip vertically. I don't really know about Canadian money. I'm far south enough that I don't care.


Why should they? Is there some special reason for it?

Because of how the dies are positioned in the presses. And because (now) I've looked at my $15 in various change and all but 6 coins flip vertically.
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ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3809 Posts
June 01 2010 03:58 GMT
#39
Korean won flips vertically :X
: o )
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
June 01 2010 04:36 GMT
#40
On June 01 2010 12:58 ShloobeR wrote:
Korean won flips vertically :X


OMG it's a conspiracy with the US!
:]
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5655 Posts
June 02 2010 14:20 GMT
#41
well thanks a fucking lot. now i have ANOTHER strange habit that I can't explain in 2 sentences or less.
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Intr3pid
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Switzerland336 Posts
June 02 2010 14:24 GMT
#42
Swiss Francs (CHF) flip horizontally, which seems to be the standard in Europe.
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2745 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 14:31:16
June 02 2010 14:30 GMT
#43
On May 31 2010 22:33 illu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 21:53 Navane wrote:
My euro's flip horizontally; btw 'flip horizontally' is an ambiguous term. If the coin lies in the vertical plane, The axis I flip it around is vertical; it's perpendicular to the horizontal plane. but the rotational movement lies in the horizontal plane.



By horizontally, we all mean that it flips the same way as MS Paint.


Thank you! What an unamigious way to describe I just checked it in mspaint.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 02 2010 15:10 GMT
#44
What the fuck are coins?
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Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
June 02 2010 15:40 GMT
#45
Norwegian coins flip left/right.
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 04:27:56
June 03 2010 04:26 GMT
#46
On June 02 2010 23:30 Navane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 22:33 illu wrote:
On May 31 2010 21:53 Navane wrote:
My euro's flip horizontally; btw 'flip horizontally' is an ambiguous term. If the coin lies in the vertical plane, The axis I flip it around is vertical; it's perpendicular to the horizontal plane. but the rotational movement lies in the horizontal plane.



By horizontally, we all mean that it flips the same way as MS Paint.


Thank you! What an unamigious way to describe I just checked it in mspaint.


I am awesome, am I not?

On June 03 2010 00:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
What the fuck are coins?


coin n.
a piece of metal stamped and issued by the authority of a government for use as money.

On June 02 2010 23:20 mOnion wrote:
well thanks a fucking lot. now i have ANOTHER strange habit that I can't explain in 2 sentences or less.


No problem~
:]
ultramagnetics
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland215 Posts
June 03 2010 07:05 GMT
#47
haha great thread...

The korean-american conspiracy doesn't quite hold though (or it has to be expanded):
Guatemalan/Mexican coins flip vertically.
Belize (heavily influenced by Britain) coins flip horizontally.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
June 03 2010 07:11 GMT
#48
lol there is no should; the decision to have it face one way or another is arbitrary.

Imo i prefer horizontal, just becuase the way i see if it i put the coin on it's edge both sides would face the same way but that's just me and i flick coins a lot when i'm bored.
ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
June 03 2010 07:58 GMT
#49
New Zealand is horizontal.
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Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines6 Posts
June 04 2010 05:32 GMT
#50
philippine peso coin flips verticaly... wtffff this is madness! i am so ashamed.
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Master Shaman
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States57 Posts
June 08 2010 07:30 GMT
#51
On June 02 2010 23:20 mOnion wrote:
well thanks a fucking lot. now i have ANOTHER strange habit that I can't explain in 2 sentences or less.

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Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States804 Posts
June 08 2010 08:15 GMT
#52
you're supposed to FLIP a coin, not TURN it
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Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
June 08 2010 08:26 GMT
#53
If American coins flip vertically, I am guessing South Korean and Filipino coins flip vertically as well. I suppose Japanese coins do so too?
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