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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 03 2010 19:43 GMT
#181
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MONTERREY, Mexico – Mexican soldiers killed at least 30 suspected cartel members in two shootouts near the U.S. border in a region that has become one of biggest battlegrounds in the country's drug war, authorities said Friday.

Twenty-five of the suspects were killed Thursday during a raid on a building in Ciudad Mier in Tamaulipas state. The other five were killed Friday in neighboring Nuevo Leon state, during a shootout on a highway leading to the border, the Mexican Defense Department said in a statement.

All 30 gunmen were believed to belong to the Zetas gang — the group suspected of killing 72 migrants nearly two weeks ago in what could be Mexico's biggest cartel massacre to date.



A military aircraft flying over Ciudad Mier on Thursday spotted several gunmen in front of a building, the Defense Department statement said. When ground troops moved in, gunmen opened fire, starting a gunbattle in which 25 suspected cartel members died and two soldiers were wounded.

Authorities rescued three people believed to be kidnapping victims in the raid, according to the statement. The military said troops seized 25 rifles, four grenades, 4,200 rounds of ammunition and 23 vehicles.

Earlier, a military spokesman said the gunmen were believed to be on a property controlled by the Zetas.



The second shootout erupted Friday morning outside the town of Juarez in Nuevo Leon, on a highway leading to McAllen, Texas.

Soldiers went to the area after receiving an anonymous tip that armed men were circulating in a black SUV, according to a military spokesman. He provided the information on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to reveal his name. The spokesman said the armed men opened fire, provoking the shootout that killed five gunmen, all of whom were believed to be Zetas.


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Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
September 03 2010 20:09 GMT
#182
They will never allow legalized drugs here. Drugdealers are fine without having to pay taxes.
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
September 03 2010 21:44 GMT
#183
Legalizing drugs is a hard sell. If crystal meth and crack can be purchased at your local corner store, would it entice people who normally wouldn't do illegal drugs to try it? Maybe some. How would useage compare to now? Not sure. Whether it's legal or not, these are drugs that destroy lives. People get horribly addicted to them and often end up committing petty crimes to pay for them once they lose their jobs from being high all the time. The argument can be made that alcohol and smoking are no better than illegal drugs in terms of detrement to health and society, but alcohol isn't as quickly addicting as something like heroine and smoking isn't as potent.

I don't know if legalizing drugs would help, but I suppose I'm not against the idea if it produces improved results over fighting drugs.

Still, I don't think it will ever happen. To legalize drugs would require politicians of all party affiliations to almost unanimously agree on something highly controversial, and I can't see that happening. Especially not in puritanical America, where God and Jesus are invoked at every campaign rally.
rKos
Profile Joined July 2008
Finland131 Posts
September 04 2010 11:13 GMT
#184
Here's a lot of pictures if someone is interested: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?156820-Weapons-seized-from-Drug-Cartels-by-Mexico-s-Military-amp-LE-(updates)

And honestly, even if the drugs caused cancer on the first hit and made you a mindless zombie the Drug War still wouldn't be of any worth except for the political capital gained.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 09 2010 07:01 GMT
#185
I wonder this is going to damage US-Mexican relations....?


MEXICO CITY – The third Mexican mayor in a month was slain by suspected drug gang hitmen on the same day the U.S. secretary of state raised hackles in Mexico by saying the country is "looking more and more like Colombia looked 20 years ago."



While the Mexican government quickly condemned the killing of the mayor of the northern town of El Naranjo, it rejected the comparison with Colombia, where the Medellin drug cartel waged a full frontal assault on the state, endangering its very integrity with attacks on police, politicians and judges and terror attacks against civilians.

More worrisome to Mexican legislators, Clinton suggested the United States was looking to implement some type of Plan Colombia for Mexico and Central America, referring to a U.S. anti-drug program in which American special forces teams trained Colombian troops and U.S. advisers are attached to Colombian military units.


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 11 2010 03:13 GMT
#186
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CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico – Gunmen killed 25 people in a series of drug-gang attacks in Ciudad Juarez, marking the deadliest day in more than two years for the Mexican border city. Farther east on the border, 85 inmates scaled the walls of a prison and escaped Friday in Mexico's biggest jail break in recent memory.

Despite the violence, President Felipe Calderon hotly disputed a statement this week by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton saying Mexico resembled Colombia two decades ago.

"These kind of comments like the ones made by Secretary of State Clinton ... so careless, so lacking in seriousness, are very painful for Mexico, because they damage Mexico's image terribly," Calderon told the Spanish-language network Univision.


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 13 2010 00:48 GMT
#187
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MEXICO CITY – Mexican marines captured Sergio Villarreal Barragan, a presumed leader of the embattled Beltran Leyva cartel who appears on a list of the country's most-wanted fugitives, in a raid Sunday in the central state of Puebla, officials said.

The presumed capo known as "El Grande" did not put up any resistance when he was arrested along with two alleged accomplices, a Navy official told The Associated Press. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity in line with department policy, said federal officials would announce the capture shortly.



Villarreal's capture comes about two weeks after the arrest of Edgar Valdez Villarreal, or "The Barbie," another alleged capo linked to the Beltran Leyvas.

The once-powerful Beltran Leyva cartel split following the death of Arturo — known as the "Boss of Bosses" — which launched a brutal war for control of the gang involving mass execution and beheadings in once-peaceful parts of central Mexico. The fight pitted brother Hector Beltran Leyva and Villarreal against a faction led by Edgar Valdez Villarreal. Hector Beltran Leyva remains at large.

Villarreal's capture is the fourth major blow delivered to drug cartels by Mexico's government in the past year. First came the death of Arturo Beltran Leyva on Dec. 16, 2009, then soldiers killed the Sinaloa cartel's No. 3 capo, Ignacio "Nacho" Coronel, on July 29. And on Aug. 30 federal police announced the capture of "The Barbie."


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 17 2010 06:01 GMT
#188
MONTERREY, Mexico – A gunbattle between Mexican soldiers and suspected drug cartel members left 22 dead at ranch near the U.S. border, the Defense Department said Thursday.

All the dead were suspected gang members, the department said in a statement. One soldier was injured.

The military said the drug suspects provoked the gunbattle Wednesday morning, opening fire on soldiers conducting reconnaissance patrols at a ranch on the outskirts of Ciudad Mier, a northeastern town about 18 miles (30 kilometers) south of the border with Texas.

Soldiers seized 55 grenades, 18 rifles, four handguns guns, 99 ammunition clips, 1,540 rounds of ammunition and vehicles at the ranch, the statement said. They also found military style uniforms, which are frequently used by drug gangs staging attacks.


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blomsterjohn
Profile Joined June 2008
Norway456 Posts
September 17 2010 06:27 GMT
#189
I'm surprised there's supposedly so few civilian casualties... ;roll eyes;
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 24 2010 06:08 GMT
#190

ACAPULCO, Mexico – Mexican authorities say seven people were killed in a shootout between rival drug gangs in the Pacific resort city of Acapulco.

Guerrero state investigative police director Fernando Monreal says gunmen used grenades and automatic rifles to attack a house in a residential area of Acapulco on Thursday.

The state of Guerrero, where Acapulco is located, has become a drug cartel battleground.


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.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 11:17:21
September 24 2010 11:13 GMT
#191
To me this whole thing has gotten so far cus the government itself is corrupt and eat out of the hands of corporations like Coka Cola.

Over here we got senators and governors who were big CEOs and executives, over in Mexico it's el fucking presidente after presidente.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
September 24 2010 13:04 GMT
#192
Seriously, it's nice to see violent drug lords get caught, but what about civilian casualties, what about the military's liberal rules of engagement, what about impunity to kill and maim without due process. It's nearly martial law in Mexico, right?

Anyone have a clue of how Mexico's tourism industry is faring?
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OmniscientSC2
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States713 Posts
September 24 2010 13:25 GMT
#193
On September 24 2010 22:04 TanGeng wrote:
Anyone have a clue of how Mexico's tourism industry is faring?


All the drug trafficking is happening up North. Cities like Puerto Vallarta and Cancun are still major tourist spots. Going to Guadalajara this Christmas to visit the fam'.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
September 24 2010 13:40 GMT
#194
I say, use their guns against them.

Nothing hurts more like using your own guns to get back at you. :D
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Meiya
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia1169 Posts
September 24 2010 13:45 GMT
#195
I'm reading a lot of news reports regarding contacts in which the cartel fighters come off second best against security forces, and it makes me wonder what ground the cartels are gaining, if any, that allows them to keep operating with enough brazenness to challenge Army personnel in open engagement. Is there anybody who can help me out here, because all I see are reports of the government winning the fight and I doubt that is the entire story.

As always, forgive my ignorance.
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Profile Joined November 2002
Canada59 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 13:47:08
September 24 2010 13:45 GMT
#196
Spent a lot of time in Chihuahua the last couple of years for a project (probably 3-4 months total), heard a lot of stories but never personally saw anything. Went to a lot of places in the city at all hours with no issues to speak of.

The scariest thing about Chihuahua is the airport, the landing strip can't be longer than 300m max - try doing that in the winter when it's snowing *shudder*
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
September 24 2010 15:03 GMT
#197
Cartels as de facto government: (via Calderon)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38565051/ns/world_news-americas/

I don' think Calderon has enough trustworthy troops. So the cartel's guerrilla tactics and greater presence beats out the government's power projection and guerra abilties.

If I'm not mistaken, Calderon first struck against the cartels in Michoacan which is halfway down the Pacific in Mexico. By comparison, Guadalajara, in Jalisco, is immediately to the northwest. There are some external reasons why Mexico has been such a hotbed of trafficking recently. The US-Mexico border has become the easiest way to import drugs - beating out sea-born trafficking through Florida or any other ports along the eastern seaboard.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 30 2010 06:02 GMT
#198
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MEXICO CITY – Mexican marines captured 30 suspected Gulf cartel members and seized an arsenal of weapons during two days of raids in a northern border state torn by drug gang battles, officials announced Wednesday.

The arrests came as Mexico's government said organized crime-related killings have fallen so far in September compared to previous months. Government security spokesman Alejandro Poire said an average of 36 such killings were recorded in the first 24 days of September, compared to 49 killings a day in June and August.

In the state of Tamaulipas, marines, acting on intelligence obtained by the navy and other agencies, conducted the raids in Matamoros and Reynosa, two cities across the border from Texas, Rear Adm. Jose Luis Vergara said.


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VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
September 30 2010 07:43 GMT
#199
On September 24 2010 20:13 .risingdragoon wrote:
To me this whole thing has gotten so far cus the government itself is corrupt and eat out of the hands of corporations like Coka Cola.

Over here we got senators and governors who were big CEOs and executives, over in Mexico it's el fucking presidente after presidente.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felipe_Calderón

Felipe Calderon is a pretty well educated man, coming from the main party opposing the "old" system. What exactly is your point?
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 03 2010 04:59 GMT
#200
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ACAPULCO, Mexico – Gunmen kidnapped 20 men who were traveling together in Mexico's Pacific coast resort city of Acapulco, authorities said Saturday.

A shootout between drug gangs, meanwhile, left 14 people dead in remote town in the northern state of Durango, Mexican newspapers reported.

The group of men in Acapulco was visiting from the western city of Morelia and looking for a place to stay when they were abducted Thursday, said Fernando Monreal, director of state investigative police in Guerrero state, where the resort city is located.


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