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Sanya12364 Posts
That's the government right? The whole private individual/organizations breakdown would be more interesting rather than government largess.
Money hardly counts for crap though. Real help come in the form of volunteer efforts, medical expertise, and reconstruction efforts. Yes, I donated. $200.
I sort of wished I could have went on site and helped though.
Oh and the US government aid sometime counterproductive e.g. US military control of airports that turned away doctors without borders. I expect that some other foreign aid packages would likewise be somewhat inappropriate i.e. added in to inflate monetary value but doesn't address the pressing needs of people in Haiti.
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eh should be % of GDP to show how much countries are giving
and also there are other ways of helping like food, meds, clean water, transport, labour etc.
simply using a numerical figure is a pretty bad representation.
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I haven't donated anything. I'm in debt and school is killing me. Sorry Haiti. 
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wow, germany donated less per capita than the global average. i feel kinda ashamed...
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On February 08 2010 13:33 GGTeMpLaR wrote:so what are the "Others" are they like + Show Spoiler +
LOL.
ben decided to throw a spaghetti dinner
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Inaccurate list. Iunno about other countries, but like Navane said, in the Netherlands some public fund raising campaign alone ended up with over 83mil. The 5 million listed seems to be coming from Dutch health & humanity related organizations. I'd estimate (no back up source  ) our country has donated over 100mil (which is pretty awesome I think, looking at how our the population is like 16~ mil). That's a HUGE difference with the amount listed on there and leads me to believe that the whole list must be totally inaccurate.
Anyway, a more interesting report would be one showing where all the money has gone to.
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Don't look at percentage...countries with lower GDPs generally also have a smaller population to maintain. Asking a large nation to commit the same percentage as a lower GDP nation with not nearly as many government programs is stupid. Look at the actual amount donated, and look at how the nation is actively assisting.
You're disappointed for no reason.
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United States43820 Posts
On February 08 2010 19:21 Mora wrote:
No one owes Haiti anything. I'd consider everyone on that list pretty damn generous.
In 1825, in return for recognising Haitian independence, France demanded indemnity on a staggering scale: 150 million gold francs, five times the country’s annual export revenue. The Royal Ordinance was backed up by 12 French warships with 150 cannon.
The terms were non-negotiable. The fledgeling nation acceded, since it had little choice. Haiti must pay for its freedom, and pay it did, through the nose, for the next 122 years.
Historical accountancy is an inexact business, but the scale of French usury was astonishing. Even when the total indemnity was reduced to 90 million francs, Haiti remained crippled by debt. The country took out loans from US, German and French banks at extortionate rates. To put the cost into perspective, in 1803 France agreed to sell the Louisiana Territory, an area 74 times the size of Haiti, to the US, for 60 million francs.
Weighed down by this financial burden, Haiti was born almost bankrupt. In 1900 some 80 per cent of the national budget was still being swallowed up by debt repayments. Money that might have been spent on building a stable economy went to foreign bankers. To keep workers on the land and extract maximum crop yields to pay the indemnity, Haiti brought in the Rural Code, instituting a division between town and country, between a light-skinned elite and the dark-skinned majority, that still persists.
The debt was not finally paid off until 1947.
French donations amounted to $33,000,000.
A revolutionary franc was 4.5 grams of silver. A quick bit of maths reveals that France owes Haiti $265,000,000 in silver (assuming silver is $18.5 an once).
However in 2004 the Haitian government estimated the damage at nearly $22 billion (including interest). Food for thought.
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i donated about 150$ i think, i hope it will help a little. Sweden used to be good at this, we have it on the TV everyday that people should donate here from sweden.
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On February 10 2010 01:36 Black Gun wrote:
wow, germany donated less per capita than the global average. i feel kinda ashamed...
first i also thought "what a shame", but i think we also sent a lot of doctors, medicines, ...
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I'd guess that the overwhelming majority of the private donations come from the US as well.
Also South Korea is fail.
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Russian Federation4447 Posts
On February 08 2010 19:21 Mora wrote:
the world makes me proud!
yay for helping each other.
edit - why all the dick wagging? Who cares how much USA contributed on a per capita basis. No one owes Haiti anything. I'd consider everyone on that list pretty damn generous.
why can't we be proud that we're moving more and more into a global community that actually supports one another instead of this pissing contest.
you people annoy me.
I agree.
Just because Haiti is going through bad times doesn't mean every single country is obligated to care.
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Interesting stats. tbh the $ per person stat isnt that meaningful. I guess unless you factor in wealth distribution of the donating country. I think absolute/total dollars is more useful here, at least in terms of getting shit done in Haiti hehe.
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Russian Federation4447 Posts
On February 10 2010 17:28 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2010 19:21 Mora wrote:
No one owes Haiti anything. I'd consider everyone on that list pretty damn generous. Show nested quote +In 1825, in return for recognising Haitian independence, France demanded indemnity on a staggering scale: 150 million gold francs, five times the country’s annual export revenue. The Royal Ordinance was backed up by 12 French warships with 150 cannon.
The terms were non-negotiable. The fledgeling nation acceded, since it had little choice. Haiti must pay for its freedom, and pay it did, through the nose, for the next 122 years.
Historical accountancy is an inexact business, but the scale of French usury was astonishing. Even when the total indemnity was reduced to 90 million francs, Haiti remained crippled by debt. The country took out loans from US, German and French banks at extortionate rates. To put the cost into perspective, in 1803 France agreed to sell the Louisiana Territory, an area 74 times the size of Haiti, to the US, for 60 million francs.
Weighed down by this financial burden, Haiti was born almost bankrupt. In 1900 some 80 per cent of the national budget was still being swallowed up by debt repayments. Money that might have been spent on building a stable economy went to foreign bankers. To keep workers on the land and extract maximum crop yields to pay the indemnity, Haiti brought in the Rural Code, instituting a division between town and country, between a light-skinned elite and the dark-skinned majority, that still persists.
The debt was not finally paid off until 1947. French donations amounted to $33,000,000. A revolutionary franc was 4.5 grams of silver. A quick bit of maths reveals that France owes Haiti $265,000,000 in silver (assuming silver is $18.5 an once). However in 2004 the Haitian government estimated the damage at nearly $22 billion (including interest). Food for thought.
We also owe the native Indians the entire continent of America.
Too bad they're never going to get it back. That's darwinism for you.
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On February 10 2010 19:35 IPS.WiZarD wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2010 01:36 Black Gun wrote:
wow, germany donated less per capita than the global average. i feel kinda ashamed... first i also thought "what a shame", but i think we also sent a lot of doctors, medicines, ...
maybe, but still we are one of the richest countries in the world and one of the largest economies - even when accounting for our maybe above-average medical and logistical help, we still shouldnt be donating less money than the global average.
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On February 11 2010 02:02 Tien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2010 17:28 KwarK wrote:On February 08 2010 19:21 Mora wrote:
No one owes Haiti anything. I'd consider everyone on that list pretty damn generous. In 1825, in return for recognising Haitian independence, France demanded indemnity on a staggering scale: 150 million gold francs, five times the country’s annual export revenue. The Royal Ordinance was backed up by 12 French warships with 150 cannon.
The terms were non-negotiable. The fledgeling nation acceded, since it had little choice. Haiti must pay for its freedom, and pay it did, through the nose, for the next 122 years.
Historical accountancy is an inexact business, but the scale of French usury was astonishing. Even when the total indemnity was reduced to 90 million francs, Haiti remained crippled by debt. The country took out loans from US, German and French banks at extortionate rates. To put the cost into perspective, in 1803 France agreed to sell the Louisiana Territory, an area 74 times the size of Haiti, to the US, for 60 million francs.
Weighed down by this financial burden, Haiti was born almost bankrupt. In 1900 some 80 per cent of the national budget was still being swallowed up by debt repayments. Money that might have been spent on building a stable economy went to foreign bankers. To keep workers on the land and extract maximum crop yields to pay the indemnity, Haiti brought in the Rural Code, instituting a division between town and country, between a light-skinned elite and the dark-skinned majority, that still persists.
The debt was not finally paid off until 1947. French donations amounted to $33,000,000. A revolutionary franc was 4.5 grams of silver. A quick bit of maths reveals that France owes Haiti $265,000,000 in silver (assuming silver is $18.5 an once). However in 2004 the Haitian government estimated the damage at nearly $22 billion (including interest). Food for thought. We also owe the native Indians the entire continent of America. Too bad they're never going to get it back. That's darwinism for you.
I hope you are being sarcastic to some degree.
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Why so much talk of Haiti all of a sudden? How about donating money to all the other countries in the world who suffer all the time; african countries etc.
Donating money to Haiti has become so politically correct. Not that there's anything wrong with donating money to Haiti of course.
North Korea probably has more suffering people than Haiti. When did someone ever donate money to NK?
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Wow Dominican Republic being mashed in "Others" is just wrong -_- We have done more than any other country considering our size. I bet we would be in like $10 bucks per capita. Seriously...
Dominicans have died helping Haiti. I'm 20 years old I and I study in the best university of the country and me and my friends that have absolutely no reason to dedicate time or money to helping Haiti have even flown there to help.
Maybe we are not a top contributor in total but they should had put us in a separate category. I don't know why but that gets on my nerves. I am actually mad >( Countries aiding Hait after the earthquake... Ooo... Good for them! Try helping them for 200 fucking years!
I just deleted like 2 paragraphs I had reading with more rant after a lot of meditation... I'm just going to leave it at that.
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S.Korea initially gave $1million, but after seeing what other countries were donating the will be donating $10 million more.
Also the Spanish donation breakdown is pretty impressive.
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