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Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 18:59:59
January 26 2010 18:56 GMT
#101
Please, read this again:
On January 26 2010 06:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I also read an article that said if you the ability to run fast you might do well in track.

I think the main reason none found it funny is because it have nothing to do with the OP. If he had said something like "I also read an article that said if you have large leg muscles you might do well in track" it would be another story, but as it was he was just being stupid. And about that, having large leg muscles do not correlate that well with being good in track, same as having a large brain do not correlate that well with being smart.

On January 26 2010 23:43 Etherone wrote:
their conclusion? that people who learn faster, and adapt quickly ( i e the more intelligent people) did better.

No, their conclusion was that people who had more of certain parts of the brain which they believe to be associated with those traits seemed to do better in the games. It is not the same thing. Also 39 is not a small amount of people for mainstream research, if you want to prove something controversial you will need thousands to get people to believe you but for something like this 39 is certainly enough.

as you said you could obviously have told this to the researchers before they even begun, so why even use a single person?
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
January 26 2010 19:39 GMT
#102
'hurrr lets dumb everything i dont understand down to some retarded strawman argument'

Mind boggling stupidity from Incontrol here. If you can't comprehend how and why the scientific knowledge that can be gained from these results are significant you probably shouldn't voice your uneducated opinion on it.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 21:01:59
January 26 2010 21:00 GMT
#103
http://cercor.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/bhp293v1

That is the full research article. You'll note that it goes much more in-depth and you can easily how parts of it might be significant. It goes into more detail on what parts of the brain were associated with what. No, it's not totally revolutionary, but it's still interesting and can potentially be practically applied, and it's not like anyone's pushing this for receiving a Nobel prize, now is it? Not every scientific discovery needs to be groundbreaking; more often than not progress is made through numerous small contributions.
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Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
January 26 2010 21:36 GMT
#104
On January 27 2010 04:39 Frits wrote:
'hurrr lets dumb everything i dont understand down to some retarded strawman argument'

Mind boggling stupidity from Incontrol here. If you can't comprehend how and why the scientific knowledge that can be gained from these results are significant you probably shouldn't voice your uneducated opinion on it.


gonna have to voice otherwise.

Inc was much more entertaining than the content of the OP.
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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8850 Posts
January 26 2010 21:56 GMT
#105
fat
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
m1LkmaN
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia82 Posts
January 26 2010 21:57 GMT
#106
On January 27 2010 03:56 Klockan3 wrote:
Please, read this again:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2010 06:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I also read an article that said if you the ability to run fast you might do well in track.

I think the main reason none found it funny is because it have nothing to do with the OP. If he had said something like "I also read an article that said if you have large leg muscles you might do well in track" it would be another story, but as it was he was just being stupid. And about that, having large leg muscles do not correlate that well with being good in track, same as having a large brain do not correlate that well with being smart.

Incontrol is merely pointing out that this whole study is obvious. Honestly, who hasn't realised that bigger or more active parts of the brain is related to skills useful for computer games? Plus, the study was barely done in a way to be thoroughly conclusive, so I mean put the two together and the article isn't worth reposting on TL. He's making stupidly obvious statements to further this point, and yes, large muscles does correlate with doing well in track, much moreso than the size of parts of the brain to success in videogames.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
January 26 2010 22:14 GMT
#107
On January 27 2010 06:57 m1LkmaN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 03:56 Klockan3 wrote:
Please, read this again:
On January 26 2010 06:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I also read an article that said if you the ability to run fast you might do well in track.

I think the main reason none found it funny is because it have nothing to do with the OP. If he had said something like "I also read an article that said if you have large leg muscles you might do well in track" it would be another story, but as it was he was just being stupid. And about that, having large leg muscles do not correlate that well with being good in track, same as having a large brain do not correlate that well with being smart.

Incontrol is merely pointing out that this whole study is obvious. Honestly, who hasn't realised that bigger or more active parts of the brain is related to skills useful for computer games?

Plus, the study was barely done in a way to be thoroughly conclusive, so I mean put the two together and the article isn't worth reposting on TL. He's making stupidly obvious statements to further this point, and yes, large muscles does correlate with doing well in track, much moreso than the size of parts of the brain to success in videogames.


Lots of things about the brain that 'common sense' would indicate are obvious are simply false. Brain size doesn't correlate with intelligence within species for example. While this study probably isn't revolutionary, it adds another small piece of the puzzle to the whole and that's how scientific research works. No study on its own is going to be thoroughly conclusive, especially not one on such a complex matter as brain mechanisms. I thought the results of the study were pretty interesting and worth posting, especially since it was on gaming and that's what this website is all about.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
January 26 2010 22:15 GMT
#108
plus inc was just being a complete douche
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 22:23:06
January 26 2010 22:22 GMT
#109
Some of you may be interested in reading "The Mismeasure of Man" by Stephen Jay Gould. It goes into great detail about the ways in which worth, intelligence and other traits have been measured over the years. In particular, it talks about the myth of bigger brains = more intelligent.

Well worth reading.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
January 26 2010 22:23 GMT
#110
On January 27 2010 06:36 Mora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 04:39 Frits wrote:
'hurrr lets dumb everything i dont understand down to some retarded strawman argument'

Mind boggling stupidity from Incontrol here. If you can't comprehend how and why the scientific knowledge that can be gained from these results are significant you probably shouldn't voice your uneducated opinion on it.


gonna have to voice otherwise.

Inc was much more entertaining than the content of the OP.


However, not the most educative/informative five minutes of my life, I spent on reading and replying to him.
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Gnaix
Profile Joined February 2009
United States438 Posts
January 26 2010 22:31 GMT
#111
On January 26 2010 06:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Interesting.. so you are saying there is a link between how smart you are and how good you'd be at video games?

Well fuck me sideways.. that is a tremendous breakthrough. I also read an article that said if you the ability to run fast you might do well in track.

Yeah, these things may seem obvious when looking back, but the results are not certain until the research is done. Hindsight bias is a horrible evaluation of research.
one thing that sc2 has over bw is the fact that I can actually manage my hotkeys
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
January 26 2010 22:31 GMT
#112
On January 27 2010 07:23 Lovin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 06:36 Mora wrote:
On January 27 2010 04:39 Frits wrote:
'hurrr lets dumb everything i dont understand down to some retarded strawman argument'

Mind boggling stupidity from Incontrol here. If you can't comprehend how and why the scientific knowledge that can be gained from these results are significant you probably shouldn't voice your uneducated opinion on it.


gonna have to voice otherwise.

Inc was much more entertaining than the content of the OP.


However, not the most educative/informative five minutes of my life, I spent on reading and replying to him.


It was your choice to waste your time uselessly.

After all, this is not some scientific research forum, its TL, and inc will troll your favorite threads into oblivion!

Besides, the topic title was dealt terrible terrible damage to the topics subject.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
January 26 2010 23:26 GMT
#113
funny article

but i think we can all agree starcraft is easily one of the more demanding games out there, if not -the- most demanding game.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
January 27 2010 03:32 GMT
#114
On January 27 2010 03:23 Zack1900 wrote:
I wonder if in the future their will be special video games designed to stimulate intelligence and non-violent behavior.


that would be an epically dull game!
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
Zack1900
Profile Joined January 2010
United States211 Posts
January 27 2010 23:43 GMT
#115
But if your 3 and playing that game it might be awesome. They did say that juvenile delinquents were to old to help so it's to late for all of us anyway.
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
January 28 2010 00:01 GMT
#116
This article is pretty interesting. It doesn't merely say "bigger brain means smart means better gamer" as incontrol kept spouting (thank god he got banned). It looked at sizes of different PARTS of the brain and concluded that only the size of the striatum was correlated.

So basically they've isolated the video game section of the brain.
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