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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 25 2010 23:51 GMT
#81
lol
bburn
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1039 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 00:04:57
January 26 2010 00:04 GMT
#82
"10 men, 29 women - who had spent less than three hours each week playing video games in the previous two years"

This seems like a pretty small sample size to be drawing conclusions from. I also believe the article is misrepresenting the science.

"But those players who ultimately performed best on the game in which priorities changed had larger sections deep in the centre of the brain, known as the caudate and putamen...This makes sense, because these areas have been linked to learning procedures and new skills, as well as adapting to changing environments."

So essentially this is not any new information they just used a different medium (video games) than they have in the past for these type of experiments.
banana[AfO]
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 26 2010 00:06 GMT
#83
... it's really bizarre that this thread is the one being trolled.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Undisputed-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States379 Posts
January 26 2010 00:08 GMT
#84
On January 26 2010 09:06 starfries wrote:
... it's really bizarre that this thread is the one being trolled.


Agreed just got back to read through it and thought wtf haha, entertaining none the less!
Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
January 26 2010 00:15 GMT
#85
On January 26 2010 08:28 Hypnosis wrote:
You do realize that this will be the next great breakthrough in science? Random conclusions drawn from absolute bullshit.

Oh wait that's physics LOL


I feel like such a nerd for laughing at that for as long as I did.

I can't believe so many people were butthurt over incontrol making a joke about something he thought was stupid. It's like you've all never seen a thread on this forum before.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
V6
Profile Joined February 2008
147 Posts
January 26 2010 00:30 GMT
#86
sulky incontroll bashing thread
people frustrated
people bashing incontroll
incontroll bashing people
nerd rage
me entertained
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
January 26 2010 00:38 GMT
#87
I think incontrol has proved why is better at bw than most of you here.
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
January 26 2010 00:40 GMT
#88
Good read! Article + thread were just great
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
TimmyMac
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada499 Posts
January 26 2010 05:15 GMT
#89
On January 26 2010 09:04 bburn wrote:
"10 men, 29 women - who had spent less than three hours each week playing video games in the previous two years"

This seems like a pretty small sample size to be drawing conclusions from. I also believe the article is misrepresenting the science.

"But those players who ultimately performed best on the game in which priorities changed had larger sections deep in the centre of the brain, known as the caudate and putamen...This makes sense, because these areas have been linked to learning procedures and new skills, as well as adapting to changing environments."

So essentially this is not any new information they just used a different medium (video games) than they have in the past for these type of experiments.

UGH, can't stand it when people with no research or stats experience post about sample sizes. Most human studies are conducted on similar scales unless they're some huge observational study costing millions. Do you know how expensive research is? Clearly they had enough power to report significant findings, otherwise this article wouldn't even exist.

Also, loling at the spoiled kid with the airhorn who won't stop blowing it.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 26 2010 07:07 GMT
#90
On January 26 2010 09:30 V6 wrote:
sulky incontroll bashing thread
people frustrated
people bashing incontroll
incontroll bashing people
nerd rage
me entertained
incontroll gets banned

DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
January 26 2010 07:09 GMT
#91
On January 26 2010 16:07 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2010 09:30 V6 wrote:
sulky incontroll bashing thread
people frustrated
people bashing incontroll
incontroll bashing people
nerd rage
me entertained
incontroll gets banned



rofl..
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
January 26 2010 07:26 GMT
#92
woa, why is incontrol banned -_-;;
i was thinking it's just fun e-drama, maybe turning too sarcastic and personal for the moderators' taste.
[TLMS] REBOOT
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 08:01:25
January 26 2010 08:00 GMT
#93
I'd like to know which part(s) of the brain have major effects on gaming, and what specific reasons as to why they do. Also what other abilities are effected by the same parts of the brain.

Also, good to know that our mods are always watching and not playing favorites with the ban stick, the trolling felt a bit excessive.


edit - just finished reading it, nevermind
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
January 26 2010 08:05 GMT
#94
On January 26 2010 09:38 CultureMisfits wrote:
I think incontrol has proved why is better at bw than most of you here.


I think Incontrol has proved that he has nothing better to do than bashing threads. Just go teach people sc or work out dude. And yes, this thread is dumb
Brood War is the best RTS that has ever been created.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
January 26 2010 08:19 GMT
#95
The structure of the Brain is far more important than the overall mass.
I'm sure you could just as easily tell if someone was going to be good at math, or music, or writing if you did an early adolescent brain scan.

Einstein actually had a smaller than average brain. But he had a large fold, or "knob" in one section of the cortex that gave him super-human spacial reasoning. The surface area of this section was increased dramatically.

I found a really good (short) article about it, for anyone interested.

+ Show Spoiler +
PhysicsOrg.com

"When one thinks of Einstein, it is natural to assume that obviously his brain differed from that of the average person...

At 1230 grams, it fell at the low end of average for modern humans...

...Einstein's parietal lobes were 15% wider than average...

In addition to the parietal lobes, Falk claims to have discovered a pattern of ridges and grooves in those wider lobes that is rare..."


I'm sure an in depth study of any simmilarly adept people would reveal a continuity to their brain structures.

(T)Flash, (P)Bisu, (Z)EffOrt and (P)Rock would probably be a sample enough to determine similarties... that you might find in someone like Kolll... who picked up Starcraft at the Pro level in a rediculously short period of time.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
January 26 2010 11:34 GMT
#96
On January 26 2010 07:09 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Do you think the amount of money you have might correlate with how rich you are?


hahahaha
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
January 26 2010 11:35 GMT
#97
On January 26 2010 06:26 Koltz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2010 06:23 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Yes and hopefully the discovery that the brain helps with playing games will propel our understanding of grand theft auto 4


"Yes and hopefully the discovery that you can add each individual segmented area under a curve to get the (shocking) entire area of the curve will propel our understanding of Calculus"

It's just that easy...


giant /care all over your face
icyF
Profile Joined June 2008
Finland305 Posts
January 26 2010 14:28 GMT
#98
On January 26 2010 08:12 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2010 08:11 opsayo wrote:
On January 26 2010 07:58 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Not finding a thread interesting and posting conclusions one receives from an OP is not "being an asshole"

Telling said person they are stupid to not view a thread the way they do and calling them names or asserting their reading comprehension is low IS being an asshole.

Hey guys, sorry that I didn't find portions of the brain being linked to video game adequacy interesting. Seems REALLY obvious that you use certain parts of the brain for video games and people with more activity in that portion would do better at video games.. how the hell is that really fascinating?

It's not so much finding that fact and actually locating the actual sectors of the brain.

But if you're all against scientific advancement, why are you using that computer?


The conclusions people draw are astounding.. you think I am against ALL scientific advancements, and you deduct this from where?

People have the audacity to call me stupid yet I am having my reading comprehension assessed, my intelligence weighed and my body mocked because I deign to disagree with the fascination of an OP..

THis has been a great case study of some of the TL posting community haha


This just in:

Forum success may be in the mind, study finds.

sauce: 4chan
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
January 26 2010 14:43 GMT
#99
On January 26 2010 16:26 OpticalShot wrote:
woa, why is incontrol banned -_-;;
i was thinking it's just fun e-drama, maybe turning too sarcastic and personal for the moderators' taste.

i have no idea since this thread (op) was absolute shit, its a link a 1 line quote followed by a sentence, all very obvious and previously stated.

also to note the study was retarded, they too 39 people (wtf) 29 women 10 men ( double wtf) and have them play a video game.

their conclusion? that people who learn faster, and adapt quickly ( i e the more intelligent people) did better.

I dunno, this may be just me but this is ground fucking breaking...

i may be jumping to conclusions, maybe inc was banned for something else.
Zack1900
Profile Joined January 2010
United States211 Posts
January 26 2010 18:23 GMT
#100
I find that the size of a part of a brain actually makes a difference. I wish their was a link to the original study since the bbc link seems to be a "dumbed" down version.

If you read some of the links on the bbc page you will see some that another study finds that people convicted of violent crimes often have a smaller prefrontal cortex and suggest that if kids are identified to early enough the risk for violence can be reduced.

I wonder if in the future their will be special video games designed to stimulate intelligence and non-violent behavior.
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