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Interesting.. so you are saying there is a link between how smart you are and how good you'd be at video games?
Well fuck me sideways.. that is a tremendous breakthrough. I also read an article that said if you the ability to run fast you might do well in track.
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On January 26 2010 06:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Interesting.. so you are saying there is a link between how smart you are and how good you'd be at video games?
Well fuck me sideways.. that is a tremendous breakthrough. I also read an article that said if you the ability to run fast you might do well in track.
roooooooofl /thread
hopefully some ppl will see this article and see that video games arent the mindless dribble that ppl think they are.
*fist pump* JACK THOMPSONNNNN
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Interesting.. so you are saying there is a link between how smart you are and how good you'd be at video games?
Well fuck me sideways.. that is a tremendous breakthrough. I also read an article that said if you the ability to run fast you might do well in track.
If you're going to understate something, at least know all the facts first. Maybe it doesn't interest you but people who deal with the human brain and neurology it is a tremendous breakthrough; categorizing the brain is key in understand it.
Not that im going for the pseudo-intellectual vibe right now, but for example, im sure the Riemann sum seems quite "trivial" to you (adding each 'segment' of a curve to get its area), but its application propelled calculus.
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sounds as if there's a correlation between brain size and ability too - ie people with less 'matter' do worse, there is not an option for them to have "less matter but more organised neurons".
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Yes and hopefully the discovery that the brain helps with playing games will propel our understanding of grand theft auto 4
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I'm not quite sure how big of a discovery this really is...
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On January 26 2010 06:23 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Yes and hopefully the discovery that the brain helps with playing games will propel our understanding of grand theft auto 4
"Yes and hopefully the discovery that you can add each individual segmented area under a curve to get the (shocking) entire area of the curve will propel our understanding of Calculus"
It's just that easy...
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The study also tells us to have compassion for noobs - it's not their fault they suck, it's genetic.
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So SC players are the master race of humans? Tell me something I don't know.
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So women are missing parts of their brains :D?
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On January 26 2010 06:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: The study also tells us to have compassion for noobs - it's not their fault they suck, it's genetic.
I don't know if that makes it better or worse...
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I always figured Starcraft players were smarter then the average gamer.
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On January 26 2010 06:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Interesting.. so you are saying there is a link between how smart you are and how good you'd be at video games?
Well fuck me sideways.. that is a tremendous breakthrough. I also read an article that said if you the ability to run fast you might do well in track. The article doesn't mention the word "smart", the study focuses on the mere size of certain portions in the brain. And no there isn't necessarily a correlation.
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oh my bad.
This thread just became FUCKING AMAZING.
GUYS.. the size of the brain had no correlation to how smart you are
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On January 26 2010 06:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Interesting.. so you are saying there is a link between how smart you are and how good you'd be at video games?
Well fuck me sideways.. that is a tremendous breakthrough. I also read an article that said if you the ability to run fast you might do well in track.
Hahaha, good one incontrol.
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haven't read the article but i if they see a connection between being smart and being good at video games then it's a generalization.
you don't need to be ultra smart to play on the highest level in counter strike e.g. (at least not if you don't call tactics) whereas in starcraft i would be more tempted to think so (mind games etc. - not the raw skill).
it's like saying you needed to be extremely clever to be good at sports which is also a generalization... in football/soccer there are such dumb asses but they're still the cream of the crop (oliver kahn, podolski come to mind).
i suppose it depends on on how many levels the "sport" (or what it is) is being played. if you are for example a normal player in a counter strike team with 5 players and you don't call tacs there is no need to be intelligent as hell.. the same with being a football player. as a starcraft player i think it's more important because it's mostly 1on1 and you have to fulfill all functions by yourself (mechanics, tactics, mind games).
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iNcontroL using his popularity, influence and terrible wit to derail yet another thread?
Who will stand up for Undisputed, the little guy?
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On January 26 2010 06:55 {88}iNcontroL wrote: oh my bad.
This thread just became FUCKING AMAZING.
GUYS.. the size of the brain had no correlation to how smart you are Single-handedly covering the sarcasm base for all us sarcastic assholes. Keep it up!
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On January 26 2010 06:55 {88}iNcontroL wrote: oh my bad.
This thread just became FUCKING AMAZING.
GUYS.. the size of the brain had no correlation to how smart you are Well not necessarily. For instance they're mentioning that people with greater reward systems tend to succeed to a higher degree. We don't really know for certain in what way if any intelligence is linked to sizes of different portions of the brain. Although this study might indicate that (I don't know, I haven't read it.)
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Do you think the amount of money you have might correlate with how rich you are?
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On January 26 2010 07:01 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 06:55 {88}iNcontroL wrote: oh my bad.
This thread just became FUCKING AMAZING.
GUYS.. the size of the brain had no correlation to how smart you are Well not necessarily.  For instance they're mentioning that people with greater reward systems tend to succeed to a higher degree. We don't really know for certain in what way if any intelligence is linked to sizes of different portions of the brain. Although this study might indicate that (I don't know, I haven't read it.)
People with good reward systems love to steal stereos for crack
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On January 26 2010 07:09 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Do you think the amount of money you have might correlate with how rich you are? your posts are making a pretty good argument against the hypothesis presented in op's article.
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Yep I am probably really dumb based on my posts in this thread.
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..but even the mind cant stop power outages
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half the SC players i know are fucking retard mindless automatons. Try to pick up a random player on iccup and think if he is smart at all or if he is just executing something.
Improvise, and you will see, most players cant adapt to any situation, thats why so many people keep cheesing, that is why is so fucking effective.
There is nothing smart about good mechanics and macro. The smartest aspect of the game you can see it only where the mechanics are virtually equal.
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The brain is considered a muscle. is it not?
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On January 26 2010 07:18 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Yep I am probably really dumb based on my posts in this thread. No I don't really think so but why are you so blatantly trolling this thread? I thought the article was pretty interesting.
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I didn't.
2 birds 1 stone BAM
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On January 26 2010 06:55 {88}iNcontroL wrote: oh my bad.
This thread just became FUCKING AMAZING.
GUYS.. the size of the brain had no correlation to how smart you are
Nope, it doesn't.. In fact, different kinds of intelligence require a different kind of brain. Say for instance, the male brain is about.. I think 3 billion cells larger than the female one, but they still are mathematically more intelligent [citation needed] (I'm not assed to find that source)
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On January 26 2010 07:23 Lovin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 06:55 {88}iNcontroL wrote: oh my bad.
This thread just became FUCKING AMAZING.
GUYS.. the size of the brain had no correlation to how smart you are Nope, it doesn't.. In fact, different kinds of intelligence require a different kind of brain. Say for instance, the male brain is about.. I think 3 billion cells larger than the male one, but they still are mathematically more intelligent [citation needed] (I'm not assed to find that source) the male brain is bigger than the male brain eh?
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On January 26 2010 07:24 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 07:23 Lovin wrote:On January 26 2010 06:55 {88}iNcontroL wrote: oh my bad.
This thread just became FUCKING AMAZING.
GUYS.. the size of the brain had no correlation to how smart you are Nope, it doesn't.. In fact, different kinds of intelligence require a different kind of brain. Say for instance, the male brain is about.. I think 3 billion cells larger than the male one, but they still are mathematically more intelligent [citation needed] (I'm not assed to find that source) the male brain is bigger than the male brain eh?
You're just fucking hilarious, aren't you?
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I can't find a rationalization for Incontrol's posts so I'm going to assume that he's butthurt over something related to the OP.
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On January 26 2010 07:09 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Do you think the amount of money you have might correlate with how rich you are?
Suppose many centuries ago someone decided to prove that the integer 3^200 > 2 ^ 100 Now people like you would say "LOL thats useless of course it's bigger... thanks for contributing (nothing) to society"
Now suppose that he has some overly complex proof, stuff that you do not understand, stuff you think is taking away from the immediately useful, and you complain loudly about this, since it is not (in your opinion) necessary.
So this mathematician invents modular arithmetic, and by reducing both 3^200 and 2^100 by some prime number he concludes 3^200 > 2^100. Later on, this technique can be used to compare other such numbers like 2^1876 and 3^1000 which are not as trivial as the previous example.
Now because of this encryption and decryption becomes more advanced, further advancing technology.
The point is, just because some research isn't immediately useful in your opinion, theres no point bashing stuff which people put hard work into. Get an education and maybe you'll understand.
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On January 26 2010 07:33 Koltz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 07:09 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Do you think the amount of money you have might correlate with how rich you are? Suppose many centuries ago someone decided to prove that the integer 3^200 > 2 ^ 100 Now people like you would say "LOL thats useless of course it's bigger... thanks for contributing (nothing) to society" Now suppose that he has some overly complex proof, stuff that you do not understand, stuff you think is taking away from the immediately useful, and you complain loudly about this, since it is not (in your opinion) necessary. So this mathematician invents modular arithmetic, and by reducing both 3^200 and 2^100 by some prime number he concludes 3^200 > 2^100. Later on, this technique can be used to compare other such numbers like 3^1876 and 2^1000 which are not as trivial as the previous example. Now because of this encryption and decryption becomes more advanced, further advancing technology. The point is, just because some research isn't immediately useful in your opinion, theres no point bashing stuff which people put hard work into. Get an education and maybe you'll understand.
1 UP.
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iNcontroL
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comparing past discoveries that seem basic now to a "discovery" that being smart helps you play video games is terribad.
I don't need an explanation about seemingly insignificant discoveries of the past. lol
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Don't you get it THIS IS INCONTROLS THREAD!!! GTFOOOO
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On January 26 2010 07:37 {88}iNcontroL wrote: comparing past discoveries that seem basic now to a "discovery" that being smart helps you play video games is terribad.
I don't need an explanation about seemingly insignificant discoveries of the past. lol Of course your conclusion of the premise of this research "being smart helps you play video games" is one that only someone with a 3rd grade level of reading comprehension would conclude.
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or someone who read the OP would conclude.
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On January 26 2010 07:40 Koltz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 07:37 {88}iNcontroL wrote: comparing past discoveries that seem basic now to a "discovery" that being smart helps you play video games is terribad.
I don't need an explanation about seemingly insignificant discoveries of the past. lol Of course your conclusion of the premise of this research "being smart helps you play video games" is one that only someone with a 3rd grade level of reading comprehension would conclude.
This is the truth.
But shouldn't we start a huge argument about what intelligence is and how it can be measured?
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Except, the article mentions nothing about being "smart," itself a very vague categorization. It just says a particular part of the brain has been identified with video gaming skills - which with more study can be narrowed down to reflexes, decision making, etc. - very useful in the study of how we categorize what parts of the brains are responsible for what.
It is a step forward in allowing us to treat brain disorders that much more effectively, instead of blindly stabbing away and hoping that we hit the part of the brain that's responsible for a particular condition.
Tl;dr, it's useful, it doesn't even say what you think it's saying, stop being an asshole.
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but my reading comprehension is above 3rd grade. His law as stated in the quotation above me is incorrect. How can we continue with this thread when the main defender of the OP is blatantly stating falsehoods?
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Not finding a thread interesting and posting conclusions one receives from an OP is not "being an asshole"
Telling said person they are stupid to not view a thread the way they do and calling them names or asserting their reading comprehension is low IS being an asshole.
Hey guys, sorry that I didn't find portions of the brain being linked to video game adequacy interesting. Seems REALLY obvious that you use certain parts of the brain for video games and people with more activity in that portion would do better at video games.. how the hell is that really fascinating?
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On January 26 2010 07:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Except, the article mentions nothing about being "smart," itself a very vague categorization. It just says a particular part of the brain has been identified with video gaming skills - which with more study can be narrowed down to reflexes, decision making, etc. - very useful in the study of how we categorize what parts of the brains are responsible for what.
It is a step forward in allowing us to treat brain disorders that much more effectively, instead of blindly stabbing away and hoping that we hit the part of the brain that's responsible for a particular condition.
Tl;dr, it's useful, it doesn't even say what you think it's saying, stop being an asshole.
While it's true its not really about being smart, fMRI studies like this one aren't as useful as you think.
Better gamers have larger reward centers and putamen - obviously players more responsive to reward will stay interested longer and players with larger areas associated with motor learning will coordinate their characters better. This isn't groundbreaking research, it's confirming facts already established in an easy-to-digest story for the general public.
Also lol go incontrol
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On January 26 2010 07:58 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Not finding a thread interesting and posting conclusions one receives from an OP is not "being an asshole"
Telling said person they are stupid to not view a thread the way they do and calling them names or asserting their reading comprehension is low IS being an asshole.
Hey guys, sorry that I didn't find portions of the brain being linked to video game adequacy interesting. Seems REALLY obvious that you use certain parts of the brain for video games and people with more activity in that portion would do better at video games.. how the hell is that really fascinating?
Because it could explain why some people have natural talent at video games. That's pretty cool. It's also cool because it's fun to understand the way people think and how brains can change when they gain new information.
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I conclude guys. I conclude.
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iNcontroL
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This isn't why people have natural talent to video games. It is a conglomeration of things. Surely you saw the pattern between intelligence and being good at video games right? Did you really need a thread about brain activity/size in certain parts to tell you that that could be linked to video game playing ability?
The brain doesn't have an area dedicated to video games guys, lol. It has a portion of the brain dedicated to skills/abilities that lend themselves towards playing video games. This was known. Having more mass there / activity would probably aid in the ability to play video games.. WOW!
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nice article, reminded me of susan polgars video where Laszlo made his theory about crafting a genius. i wonder how the brain compensates for gender differences and how it taps into other areas of the brain when certain resources are exhausted or overused.
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It is interesting to some, and if you don't care good for you, why even post incessant trolling one liners in the thread?
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I thought the OP article was rather stating something redundant/obvious, it really doesn't take a genius to link gaming abilities (which does involve instant decision making and adaptability, to say the least) to something with the brain.
That being said, after reading comments in the thread, I see that although the article itself may have been a disappointment, the areas of research that can branch out from this can really contribute to advances in neuroscience. TL > scientific community.
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On January 26 2010 08:03 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: It is interesting to some, and if you don't care good for you, why even post incessant trolling one liners in the thread?
Because those one-liners are in response to attacks against me. I didn't find it interesting, I posted as such. Someone took the time to refute what I said, so I did that in kind. Then people started to name call, so I responded in quip fashion.
I also have long drawn out posts explaining my thoughts. And they don't include theories about the other person's reading comprehension, their intelligence or anything of the sort..
But thanks for singling ME out as the problem lol
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Incontrol can you go be an asshole in the blogs or something?
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On January 26 2010 06:58 Gigaudas wrote: iNcontroL using his popularity, influence and terrible wit to derail yet another thread?
Who will stand up for Undisputed, the little guy?
Summed it up right here, terrible troll
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Sorry guys.. did this thread make you feel special for a minute and I am raining on that parade? I have no idea why my opinion (which others have agreed with btw, in this thread rofl) would be met with some negativity?
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On January 26 2010 08:05 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 08:03 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: It is interesting to some, and if you don't care good for you, why even post incessant trolling one liners in the thread? Because those one-liners are in response to attacks against me. I didn't find it interesting, I posted as such. Someone took the time to refute what I said, so I did that in kind. Then people started to name call, so I responded in quip fashion. I also have long drawn out posts explaining my thoughts. And they don't include theories about the other person's reading comprehension, their intelligence or anything of the sort.. But thanks for singling ME out as the problem lol
You're not the problem but maybe you want to be recognized as someone with a small brain YET is killer at starcraft? lol
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Why bother even posting if you didn't find it interesting? And if you don't, why did you come back to the thread at all? Because you posted with the original intent of trolling and decided to check up on your little project?
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Yep you nailed it. I want to be known as a small brained good scbw player because I found this "discovery" bland.
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Good to see that people still get so upset over a light hearted joke post.
I think this article could be applied to just about anything though. I do love science, and eventually we'll have a much understanding of the brain. This is just the very beginning.
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On January 26 2010 08:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Why bother even posting if you didn't find it interesting? And if you don't, why did you come back to the thread at all? Because you posted with the original intent of trolling and decided to check up on your little project?
Why post on a forum at all? Do people need to find everything fascinating or agree with the OP? Nope. I posted, came back to check my post (oh btw, this is how forums function..) and saw I had replies. So I replied.. etc etc.
Do you post, then go away? Cause it wouldn't be me that has the strange habit then dude.
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What would have happened if they actually discovered that video games skill comes from how fat you are ?
What would incontrol dew?
ps: im fat so that would be amazing
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On January 26 2010 07:58 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Not finding a thread interesting and posting conclusions one receives from an OP is not "being an asshole"
Telling said person they are stupid to not view a thread the way they do and calling them names or asserting their reading comprehension is low IS being an asshole.
Hey guys, sorry that I didn't find portions of the brain being linked to video game adequacy interesting. Seems REALLY obvious that you use certain parts of the brain for video games and people with more activity in that portion would do better at video games.. how the hell is that really fascinating? It's not so much finding that fact and actually locating the actual sectors of the brain.
But if you're all against scientific advancement, why are you using that computer?
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On January 26 2010 08:11 opsayo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 07:58 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Not finding a thread interesting and posting conclusions one receives from an OP is not "being an asshole"
Telling said person they are stupid to not view a thread the way they do and calling them names or asserting their reading comprehension is low IS being an asshole.
Hey guys, sorry that I didn't find portions of the brain being linked to video game adequacy interesting. Seems REALLY obvious that you use certain parts of the brain for video games and people with more activity in that portion would do better at video games.. how the hell is that really fascinating? It's not so much finding that fact and actually locating the actual sectors of the brain. But if you're all against scientific advancement, why are you using that computer?
The conclusions people draw are astounding.. you think I am against ALL scientific advancements, and you deduct this from where?
People have the audacity to call me stupid yet I am having my reading comprehension assessed, my intelligence weighed and my body mocked because I deign to disagree with the fascination of an OP..
THis has been a great case study of some of the TL posting community haha
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Difference is you're doing it for something you say you find uninteresting, so were forced to conclude you posted with the intent of being a douche.
Also I guess we should all make a post in every thread stating our disinterest.
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I didn't realize how TERRIBLE the name of the thread is until now. It definitely helps explain incontrol's behaviour.
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On January 26 2010 08:10 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 08:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Why bother even posting if you didn't find it interesting? And if you don't, why did you come back to the thread at all? Because you posted with the original intent of trolling and decided to check up on your little project? Why post on a forum at all? Do people need to find everything fascinating or agree with the OP? Nope. I posted, came back to check my post (oh btw, this is how forums function..) and saw I had replies. So I replied.. etc etc. Do you post, then go away? Cause it wouldn't be me that has the strange habit then dude.
I hit F5 every 30 seconds, besides pee breaks. I honestly didn't think much of the article, nor do I think it's groundbreaking, or even that applicable. They're using ideas that have already been applied and applying it on video games no? If anyone cares to expand on the article please cause I read the first and last paragraph as I usually do and went meh.
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On January 26 2010 08:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Difference is you're doing it for something you say you find uninteresting, so were forced to conclude you posted with the intent of being a douche.
Also I guess we should all make a post in every thread stating our disinterest.
Yep, once again the extreme interpretation of my post.
EVERYONE POST IN EVERY THREAD BLAH BLAH
lol dude, sometimes people find things insignificant and they make fun of it. You might have seen that around TL a few times? Well this was one of them.. I just so happen to have a few moments on my hand and seeing what people are posting in response to me I am inclined to discuss the matter.
You can continue to psychoanalyze my purpose in this thread if you like but I'd recommend you stick to other hobbies.
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On January 26 2010 06:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Interesting.. so you are saying there is a link between how smart you are and how good you'd be at video games?
Well fuck me sideways.. that is a tremendous breakthrough. I also read an article that said if you the ability to run fast you might do well in track.
lol kind of what I was thinking. Being able to think and react fast are pretty obvious skills to have in computer games
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without handicaps, incontrol is unstoppable.
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On January 26 2010 08:25 hyst.eric.al wrote: without handicaps, incontrol is unstoppable.
pretty much unstoppable no matter what imo
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On January 26 2010 08:12 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 08:11 opsayo wrote:On January 26 2010 07:58 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Not finding a thread interesting and posting conclusions one receives from an OP is not "being an asshole"
Telling said person they are stupid to not view a thread the way they do and calling them names or asserting their reading comprehension is low IS being an asshole.
Hey guys, sorry that I didn't find portions of the brain being linked to video game adequacy interesting. Seems REALLY obvious that you use certain parts of the brain for video games and people with more activity in that portion would do better at video games.. how the hell is that really fascinating? It's not so much finding that fact and actually locating the actual sectors of the brain. But if you're all against scientific advancement, why are you using that computer? The conclusions people draw are astounding.. you think I am against ALL scientific advancements, and you deduct this from where? People have the audacity to call me stupid yet I am having my reading comprehension assessed, my intelligence weighed and my body mocked because I deign to disagree with the fascination of an OP.. THis has been a great case study of some of the TL posting community haha
You do realize that this will be the next great breakthrough in science? Random conclusions drawn from absolute bullshit.
Oh wait that's physics LOL
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At first I was puzzling over why this article seems to have been written with a third grader's understanding of the world in mind, and then I realized it was in a British publication, and it all made sense.
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On January 26 2010 08:03 {88}iNcontroL wrote: This isn't why people have natural talent to video games. It is a conglomeration of things. Surely you saw the pattern between intelligence and being good at video games right? Did you really need a thread about brain activity/size in certain parts to tell you that that could be linked to video game playing ability?
The brain doesn't have an area dedicated to video games guys, lol. It has a portion of the brain dedicated to skills/abilities that lend themselves towards playing video games. This was known. Having more mass there / activity would probably aid in the ability to play video games.. WOW! But surely you realise that the point of this study wasn't to try and prove that there is a correlation between certain forms of intelligence and ones performance in a video game? The video game aspect was just a mean of measuring and the reason why we conduct 1000s of these sort of studies is so that at some point we can come to understand the brain. This study focused on the correlation between size of certain parts of the brain and various personality traits.
The idea that size and "smartness" as you call it are correlated is just your own silly assertion, but I guess scientists should just assume larger brain = intelligence because it makes sense. That sort of reasoning has worked out in the past, right?
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On January 26 2010 06:55 {88}iNcontroL wrote: oh my bad.
This thread just became FUCKING AMAZING.
GUYS.. the size of the brain had no correlation to how smart you are Is there any reason to shit up a perfectly good thread? At least the news is interesting, it's very rare that such a concrete thing such as physical size actually has any effect in the brain (normally we can't begin to figure out what makes it work) so at the very least it's interesting that we're able to judge skill in an applied art simply by looking at the size of parts of the brain.
+ Show Spoiler +And also, i just came to the conclusion that iNcontroL stopped being funny about the time i stopped thinking that a high post count here mattered. You're good at a video game, that doesn't give you leeway to act like you're the coolest, most witty, intelligent guy ever who's so cool he gets to derail threads all on his own. And after that i still respect you and think you're a cool person.
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On January 26 2010 08:12 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 08:11 opsayo wrote:On January 26 2010 07:58 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Not finding a thread interesting and posting conclusions one receives from an OP is not "being an asshole"
Telling said person they are stupid to not view a thread the way they do and calling them names or asserting their reading comprehension is low IS being an asshole.
Hey guys, sorry that I didn't find portions of the brain being linked to video game adequacy interesting. Seems REALLY obvious that you use certain parts of the brain for video games and people with more activity in that portion would do better at video games.. how the hell is that really fascinating? It's not so much finding that fact and actually locating the actual sectors of the brain. But if you're all against scientific advancement, why are you using that computer? The conclusions people draw are astounding.. you think I am against ALL scientific advancements, and you deduct this from where? People have the audacity to call me stupid yet I am having my reading comprehension assessed, my intelligence weighed and my body mocked because I deign to disagree with the fascination of an OP.. THis has been a great case study of some of the TL posting community haha
Not everything is about you.
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Yea, it's not really suprising, video games take a bit of an extra step to be able to immerse yourself in them, which the better you are at it, the better you're gonna do off the bat.
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best part of the article is this: "No matter what your brain size is it's what you do with it that counts" Timothy Bates, University of Edinburgh
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On January 26 2010 08:28 Hypnosis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 08:12 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On January 26 2010 08:11 opsayo wrote:On January 26 2010 07:58 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Not finding a thread interesting and posting conclusions one receives from an OP is not "being an asshole"
Telling said person they are stupid to not view a thread the way they do and calling them names or asserting their reading comprehension is low IS being an asshole.
Hey guys, sorry that I didn't find portions of the brain being linked to video game adequacy interesting. Seems REALLY obvious that you use certain parts of the brain for video games and people with more activity in that portion would do better at video games.. how the hell is that really fascinating? It's not so much finding that fact and actually locating the actual sectors of the brain. But if you're all against scientific advancement, why are you using that computer? The conclusions people draw are astounding.. you think I am against ALL scientific advancements, and you deduct this from where? People have the audacity to call me stupid yet I am having my reading comprehension assessed, my intelligence weighed and my body mocked because I deign to disagree with the fascination of an OP.. THis has been a great case study of some of the TL posting community haha You do realize that this will be the next great breakthrough in science? Random conclusions drawn from absolute bullshit. Oh wait that's physics LOL
NOT COOL MAN
NOT FUCKING COOL
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On January 26 2010 06:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Interesting.. so you are saying there is a link between how smart you are and how good you'd be at video games?
Well fuck me sideways.. that is a tremendous breakthrough. I also read an article that said if you the ability to run fast you might do well in track.
LOL
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On January 26 2010 08:28 Hypnosis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 08:12 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On January 26 2010 08:11 opsayo wrote:On January 26 2010 07:58 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Not finding a thread interesting and posting conclusions one receives from an OP is not "being an asshole"
Telling said person they are stupid to not view a thread the way they do and calling them names or asserting their reading comprehension is low IS being an asshole.
Hey guys, sorry that I didn't find portions of the brain being linked to video game adequacy interesting. Seems REALLY obvious that you use certain parts of the brain for video games and people with more activity in that portion would do better at video games.. how the hell is that really fascinating? It's not so much finding that fact and actually locating the actual sectors of the brain. But if you're all against scientific advancement, why are you using that computer? The conclusions people draw are astounding.. you think I am against ALL scientific advancements, and you deduct this from where? People have the audacity to call me stupid yet I am having my reading comprehension assessed, my intelligence weighed and my body mocked because I deign to disagree with the fascination of an OP.. THis has been a great case study of some of the TL posting community haha You do realize that this will be the next great breakthrough in science? Random conclusions drawn from absolute bullshit. Oh wait that's physics LOL
Oh wait you've never opened a math book beyond algebra I
It is no mystery people who get an emotional reward for winning or doing well are people who will try harder at video games. Its a really cheap and easy way to get that emotional high.
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"10 men, 29 women - who had spent less than three hours each week playing video games in the previous two years"
This seems like a pretty small sample size to be drawing conclusions from. I also believe the article is misrepresenting the science.
"But those players who ultimately performed best on the game in which priorities changed had larger sections deep in the centre of the brain, known as the caudate and putamen...This makes sense, because these areas have been linked to learning procedures and new skills, as well as adapting to changing environments."
So essentially this is not any new information they just used a different medium (video games) than they have in the past for these type of experiments.
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... it's really bizarre that this thread is the one being trolled.
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On January 26 2010 09:06 starfries wrote: ... it's really bizarre that this thread is the one being trolled.
Agreed just got back to read through it and thought wtf haha, entertaining none the less!
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On January 26 2010 08:28 Hypnosis wrote: You do realize that this will be the next great breakthrough in science? Random conclusions drawn from absolute bullshit.
Oh wait that's physics LOL
I feel like such a nerd for laughing at that for as long as I did.
I can't believe so many people were butthurt over incontrol making a joke about something he thought was stupid. It's like you've all never seen a thread on this forum before.
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sulky incontroll bashing thread people frustrated people bashing incontroll incontroll bashing people nerd rage me entertained
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I think incontrol has proved why is better at bw than most of you here.
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Good read! Article + thread were just great
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On January 26 2010 09:04 bburn wrote: "10 men, 29 women - who had spent less than three hours each week playing video games in the previous two years"
This seems like a pretty small sample size to be drawing conclusions from. I also believe the article is misrepresenting the science.
"But those players who ultimately performed best on the game in which priorities changed had larger sections deep in the centre of the brain, known as the caudate and putamen...This makes sense, because these areas have been linked to learning procedures and new skills, as well as adapting to changing environments."
So essentially this is not any new information they just used a different medium (video games) than they have in the past for these type of experiments. UGH, can't stand it when people with no research or stats experience post about sample sizes. Most human studies are conducted on similar scales unless they're some huge observational study costing millions. Do you know how expensive research is? Clearly they had enough power to report significant findings, otherwise this article wouldn't even exist.
Also, loling at the spoiled kid with the airhorn who won't stop blowing it.
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On January 26 2010 09:30 V6 wrote: sulky incontroll bashing thread people frustrated people bashing incontroll incontroll bashing people nerd rage me entertained incontroll gets banned
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On January 26 2010 16:07 starfries wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 09:30 V6 wrote: sulky incontroll bashing thread people frustrated people bashing incontroll incontroll bashing people nerd rage me entertained incontroll gets banned
rofl..
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woa, why is incontrol banned -_-;; i was thinking it's just fun e-drama, maybe turning too sarcastic and personal for the moderators' taste.
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I'd like to know which part(s) of the brain have major effects on gaming, and what specific reasons as to why they do. Also what other abilities are effected by the same parts of the brain.
Also, good to know that our mods are always watching and not playing favorites with the ban stick, the trolling felt a bit excessive.
edit - just finished reading it, nevermind
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On January 26 2010 09:38 CultureMisfits wrote: I think incontrol has proved why is better at bw than most of you here.
I think Incontrol has proved that he has nothing better to do than bashing threads. Just go teach people sc or work out dude. And yes, this thread is dumb
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The structure of the Brain is far more important than the overall mass. I'm sure you could just as easily tell if someone was going to be good at math, or music, or writing if you did an early adolescent brain scan.
Einstein actually had a smaller than average brain. But he had a large fold, or "knob" in one section of the cortex that gave him super-human spacial reasoning. The surface area of this section was increased dramatically.
I found a really good (short) article about it, for anyone interested.
+ Show Spoiler +PhysicsOrg.com"When one thinks of Einstein, it is natural to assume that obviously his brain differed from that of the average person... At 1230 grams, it fell at the low end of average for modern humans... ...Einstein's parietal lobes were 15% wider than average... In addition to the parietal lobes, Falk claims to have discovered a pattern of ridges and grooves in those wider lobes that is rare..."
I'm sure an in depth study of any simmilarly adept people would reveal a continuity to their brain structures.
Flash, Bisu, EffOrt and Rock would probably be a sample enough to determine similarties... that you might find in someone like Kolll... who picked up Starcraft at the Pro level in a rediculously short period of time.
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On January 26 2010 07:09 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Do you think the amount of money you have might correlate with how rich you are?
hahahaha
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On January 26 2010 06:26 Koltz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 06:23 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Yes and hopefully the discovery that the brain helps with playing games will propel our understanding of grand theft auto 4 "Yes and hopefully the discovery that you can add each individual segmented area under a curve to get the (shocking) entire area of the curve will propel our understanding of Calculus" It's just that easy...
giant /care all over your face
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On January 26 2010 08:12 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 08:11 opsayo wrote:On January 26 2010 07:58 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Not finding a thread interesting and posting conclusions one receives from an OP is not "being an asshole"
Telling said person they are stupid to not view a thread the way they do and calling them names or asserting their reading comprehension is low IS being an asshole.
Hey guys, sorry that I didn't find portions of the brain being linked to video game adequacy interesting. Seems REALLY obvious that you use certain parts of the brain for video games and people with more activity in that portion would do better at video games.. how the hell is that really fascinating? It's not so much finding that fact and actually locating the actual sectors of the brain. But if you're all against scientific advancement, why are you using that computer? The conclusions people draw are astounding.. you think I am against ALL scientific advancements, and you deduct this from where? People have the audacity to call me stupid yet I am having my reading comprehension assessed, my intelligence weighed and my body mocked because I deign to disagree with the fascination of an OP.. THis has been a great case study of some of the TL posting community haha
This just in:
Forum success may be in the mind, study finds.
sauce: 4chan
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On January 26 2010 16:26 OpticalShot wrote: woa, why is incontrol banned -_-;; i was thinking it's just fun e-drama, maybe turning too sarcastic and personal for the moderators' taste. i have no idea since this thread (op) was absolute shit, its a link a 1 line quote followed by a sentence, all very obvious and previously stated.
also to note the study was retarded, they too 39 people (wtf) 29 women 10 men ( double wtf) and have them play a video game.
their conclusion? that people who learn faster, and adapt quickly ( i e the more intelligent people) did better.
I dunno, this may be just me but this is ground fucking breaking...
i may be jumping to conclusions, maybe inc was banned for something else.
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I find that the size of a part of a brain actually makes a difference. I wish their was a link to the original study since the bbc link seems to be a "dumbed" down version.
If you read some of the links on the bbc page you will see some that another study finds that people convicted of violent crimes often have a smaller prefrontal cortex and suggest that if kids are identified to early enough the risk for violence can be reduced.
I wonder if in the future their will be special video games designed to stimulate intelligence and non-violent behavior.
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Please, read this again:
On January 26 2010 06:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I also read an article that said if you the ability to run fast you might do well in track. I think the main reason none found it funny is because it have nothing to do with the OP. If he had said something like "I also read an article that said if you have large leg muscles you might do well in track" it would be another story, but as it was he was just being stupid. And about that, having large leg muscles do not correlate that well with being good in track, same as having a large brain do not correlate that well with being smart.
On January 26 2010 23:43 Etherone wrote: their conclusion? that people who learn faster, and adapt quickly ( i e the more intelligent people) did better. No, their conclusion was that people who had more of certain parts of the brain which they believe to be associated with those traits seemed to do better in the games. It is not the same thing. Also 39 is not a small amount of people for mainstream research, if you want to prove something controversial you will need thousands to get people to believe you but for something like this 39 is certainly enough.
as you said you could obviously have told this to the researchers before they even begun, so why even use a single person?
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'hurrr lets dumb everything i dont understand down to some retarded strawman argument'
Mind boggling stupidity from Incontrol here. If you can't comprehend how and why the scientific knowledge that can be gained from these results are significant you probably shouldn't voice your uneducated opinion on it.
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http://cercor.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/bhp293v1
That is the full research article. You'll note that it goes much more in-depth and you can easily how parts of it might be significant. It goes into more detail on what parts of the brain were associated with what. No, it's not totally revolutionary, but it's still interesting and can potentially be practically applied, and it's not like anyone's pushing this for receiving a Nobel prize, now is it? Not every scientific discovery needs to be groundbreaking; more often than not progress is made through numerous small contributions.
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On January 27 2010 04:39 Frits wrote: 'hurrr lets dumb everything i dont understand down to some retarded strawman argument'
Mind boggling stupidity from Incontrol here. If you can't comprehend how and why the scientific knowledge that can be gained from these results are significant you probably shouldn't voice your uneducated opinion on it.
gonna have to voice otherwise.
Inc was much more entertaining than the content of the OP.
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On January 27 2010 03:56 Klockan3 wrote:Please, read this again: Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 06:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I also read an article that said if you the ability to run fast you might do well in track. I think the main reason none found it funny is because it have nothing to do with the OP. If he had said something like "I also read an article that said if you have large leg muscles you might do well in track" it would be another story, but as it was he was just being stupid. And about that, having large leg muscles do not correlate that well with being good in track, same as having a large brain do not correlate that well with being smart. Incontrol is merely pointing out that this whole study is obvious. Honestly, who hasn't realised that bigger or more active parts of the brain is related to skills useful for computer games? Plus, the study was barely done in a way to be thoroughly conclusive, so I mean put the two together and the article isn't worth reposting on TL. He's making stupidly obvious statements to further this point, and yes, large muscles does correlate with doing well in track, much moreso than the size of parts of the brain to success in videogames.
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On January 27 2010 06:57 m1LkmaN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2010 03:56 Klockan3 wrote:Please, read this again: On January 26 2010 06:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I also read an article that said if you the ability to run fast you might do well in track. I think the main reason none found it funny is because it have nothing to do with the OP. If he had said something like "I also read an article that said if you have large leg muscles you might do well in track" it would be another story, but as it was he was just being stupid. And about that, having large leg muscles do not correlate that well with being good in track, same as having a large brain do not correlate that well with being smart. Incontrol is merely pointing out that this whole study is obvious. Honestly, who hasn't realised that bigger or more active parts of the brain is related to skills useful for computer games? Plus, the study was barely done in a way to be thoroughly conclusive, so I mean put the two together and the article isn't worth reposting on TL. He's making stupidly obvious statements to further this point, and yes, large muscles does correlate with doing well in track, much moreso than the size of parts of the brain to success in videogames.
Lots of things about the brain that 'common sense' would indicate are obvious are simply false. Brain size doesn't correlate with intelligence within species for example. While this study probably isn't revolutionary, it adds another small piece of the puzzle to the whole and that's how scientific research works. No study on its own is going to be thoroughly conclusive, especially not one on such a complex matter as brain mechanisms. I thought the results of the study were pretty interesting and worth posting, especially since it was on gaming and that's what this website is all about.
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plus inc was just being a complete douche
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Some of you may be interested in reading "The Mismeasure of Man" by Stephen Jay Gould. It goes into great detail about the ways in which worth, intelligence and other traits have been measured over the years. In particular, it talks about the myth of bigger brains = more intelligent.
Well worth reading.
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On January 27 2010 06:36 Mora wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2010 04:39 Frits wrote: 'hurrr lets dumb everything i dont understand down to some retarded strawman argument'
Mind boggling stupidity from Incontrol here. If you can't comprehend how and why the scientific knowledge that can be gained from these results are significant you probably shouldn't voice your uneducated opinion on it. gonna have to voice otherwise. Inc was much more entertaining than the content of the OP.
However, not the most educative/informative five minutes of my life, I spent on reading and replying to him.
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On January 26 2010 06:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Interesting.. so you are saying there is a link between how smart you are and how good you'd be at video games?
Well fuck me sideways.. that is a tremendous breakthrough. I also read an article that said if you the ability to run fast you might do well in track. Yeah, these things may seem obvious when looking back, but the results are not certain until the research is done. Hindsight bias is a horrible evaluation of research.
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On January 27 2010 07:23 Lovin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2010 06:36 Mora wrote:On January 27 2010 04:39 Frits wrote: 'hurrr lets dumb everything i dont understand down to some retarded strawman argument'
Mind boggling stupidity from Incontrol here. If you can't comprehend how and why the scientific knowledge that can be gained from these results are significant you probably shouldn't voice your uneducated opinion on it. gonna have to voice otherwise. Inc was much more entertaining than the content of the OP. However, not the most educative/informative five minutes of my life, I spent on reading and replying to him.
It was your choice to waste your time uselessly.
After all, this is not some scientific research forum, its TL, and inc will troll your favorite threads into oblivion!
Besides, the topic title was dealt terrible terrible damage to the topics subject.
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funny article
but i think we can all agree starcraft is easily one of the more demanding games out there, if not -the- most demanding game.
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On January 27 2010 03:23 Zack1900 wrote: I wonder if in the future their will be special video games designed to stimulate intelligence and non-violent behavior.
that would be an epically dull game!
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But if your 3 and playing that game it might be awesome. They did say that juvenile delinquents were to old to help so it's to late for all of us anyway.
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This article is pretty interesting. It doesn't merely say "bigger brain means smart means better gamer" as incontrol kept spouting (thank god he got banned). It looked at sizes of different PARTS of the brain and concluded that only the size of the striatum was correlated.
So basically they've isolated the video game section of the brain.
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