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Pony Express Issue 105: Dec. 14 - Dec. 21, 2009

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Kau *
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Canada3500 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-22 07:29:17
December 22 2009 07:06 GMT
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Letter from the Editor

Dear Readers,

Moo.

- Kau

Staff

Kau – Editor
ShoCkeyy – Editor
Bloodyc0bbler – The Stove
Nyovne – IRC Comments
NeverGG – Progamer Pics
Pholon – VOD of the Week
Grobyc – Ban of the Week
Vayesh – Academy of ESPORTS
LordWeird – Interview
meeple – Troll Booth/Shit Bus
Roffles – Troll Booth/Shit Bus
fanatacist – Troll Booth/Shit Bus
DoctorHelvetica – Troll Booth/Shit Bus
Thunk – Chalk talk

Table of Contents

Serious Business and Funsies ................ p1
The Stove .............................................. p2
Chalk Talk ............................................. p3
Semi-Funny IRC Comment of the Week ... p4
Progamer Photos ................................... p5
Random Image of the Week .................... p6
A Walk Down Memory Lane .................... p7
Troll Booth Willie .................................... p8
The Shit Bus .......................................... p8
Best of Blogs ......................................... p9
Ban of the Week .................................... p10
Vod of the Week .................................... p11
Academy of ESPORTS .......................... p12
Replays Time Forgot .............................. p13
Interview ................................................ p14

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  • TL Manpower Update!

  • RIP Brittany Murphy

  • How to use a Search Engine to find Google

  • Tax Evasion!


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  • Post Count Discussion

  • Where do you draw the line?

  • Post your Confessions 2.0?


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  • This thread is some reasonable discussion about scouting. I'm super ambivalent including this thread but the thing that pushed me over is this: in Starcraft, you gotta make trade-offs. I heard some people advocate 9 hatch 9 pool 9 ovie (or something like that) to fend off the proxy 2 gates. If you're using that build, proxy 2 gate has already done its damage. Scouting early defends you from all-ins but you waste the minerals you otherwise would have mined from that worker. In the same way, sending that early scout means that all-ins have already made you pay. It's always something to think about when you make decisions.
  • Metal[x] linked to his most recent reppack here. He is from China and his thread number is 88838. That is good luck. He is a very good 2v2 player. His reps will bring you good luck in your 2v2s.
  • Awesome poster SuperJongMan translates a PvZ goon-sair timing attack. This awesome translation can be found here. The sair-zeal can be here. The ever so awesome 4 gate 2 archon push can be found here.


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kinda lame but made me laugh at the time

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[00:32] <olabaz> apology not accepted :D
[00:32] <Xiberia> HE CANT HEAR YOU


never_toss: HOW LONG DOES A REGULAR ICCUP SEASON LAST
dire: 6
ruskie: 4.3
never_toss: 0.23
AraqirG-laptop: pi
Cedstick: Two stones throw from a fortnight, never_toss
dire: 3.14
Cedstick: We're the worst community ever.

So True XD


lol wtf -.-

[08:20] <Chill[Susies]> were watching some ums on tv
[08:20] <Chill[Susies]> and one of the units names in the ums the commentators is playing
[08:20] <Chill[Susies]> is gO)Pink
[08:20] <Chill[Susies]> wtf
[08:20] <Chill[Susies]> thats testies ex
[08:20] <Chill[Susies]> im like losing my mind this is so surreal


[18:24] <@XCetron> 1 month until my return
[18:24] <@XCetron> what should i bring back
[18:25] <@HCO> shit posting
[18:25] <@aers|laptop> he means irc
[18:25] <@HCO> oh
[18:25] <@HCO> well you'll just blend in then

gg no re ^^;


[20:35] <Delerium> you can tell someone is a fag when their name is xiberia
[20:36] <Xiberia> you can tell someone is retarded when they can't spell "delirium" right
[20:37] <Pholon> delyrium right?
[20:37] <Xiberia> .
[20:37] <Xiberia> fuck you man
[20:37] <Pholon> Do you still hate it when people don't finish their
[20:38] <Xiberia> yes i still hate it when people dont finish their
[20:38] <Delerium> oh does that annoy
[20:38] <Delerium> because i could totally
[20:39] <Xiberia> Delerium you are such a
[20:39] <Xiberia> and i think you should go


Yeah and that was

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I love you tdot

Combat Ex is such a cutie pie

Rape in Starcraft is a Sunken colony attacking a Nydus

Getting laid, basically as good as a Boxer translation

The Shit Bus



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  • If you 2 hours to kill

  • Brag about season 10

  • u gotta skate

  • His email to a prof

  • Gross pictures of skin

  • How to get your Livestream locked

  • How to properly rage

  • Spread the love!

  • El ten eff

  • How to properly listen to music

  • How to be a good roommate


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This weeks is a big one!

himurakenshin was just temp banned for 90 days by Kennigit.

That account was created on 2006-04-11 22:27:04 and had 1796 posts.

Reason: This is what i think of your posting.



See you in 90 days.
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and you betta be shakin dat ass

nancy0725 was just banned by SonuvBob.

That account was created on 2009-12-09 18:00:22 and had 2 posts.

Reason: Why hello there Internet stranger. I see you are a traveling salesman. Why yes, I am interested in dvd creation, how did you know? What's that, you "find a good website about that"? "Have a look"? Don't mind if I do! Thank you, kind Internet stranger!

fanatacist was just banned by Kennigit.

That account was created on 2007-08-26 06:39:10 and had 10000 posts.

Reason: By request.


amaan ali was just banned by Kennigit.

That account was created on 2009-12-16 10:37:04 and had 2 posts.
Reason:

I had to add this one^

The video made me lol hard
xXx5k4t3rg0h4nxXx was just banned by SonuvBob.

That account was created on 2009-12-15 08:36:01 and had 1 posts.

Reason: Skating is not required.

what?? u gotta skate SonuvBob
Xx5k4t3rG0H4NxX was just banned by Plexa.

That account was created on 2009-12-15 13:04:04 and had 25 posts.

Reason:

nooooooooooooo
Catch]22 was just temp banned for 2 weeks by SonuvBob.

That account was created on 2009-07-31 03:14:30 and had 459 posts.

Reason: Hey, remember the dog you had as a kid that ran away and made you all sad? Well he's back!!!


Just kidding!

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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108092

abomb was just banned by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2009-12-19 04:16:24 and had 10 posts.

Reason:
I've been working on my reviews for work lately... lets see how this sounds:

The views and opinions you have expressed are inconsistent with this organization's moral & ethical position. Your character was recently called into consideration, and it was determined to be incompatible with the direction our company is traveling. Your mere presence in your short tenure here has cause a significant lack of productivity, and a large amount of unwanted distraction. In short, Mr. abomb, we regret to inform you that you are no longer a member of this website. Your account has been deactivated, and your belongings are with the receptionist. Thank you for your time.

Alongside with like 20 more tdotkrayz bans lol. The better ones are on page 200 if you'd like to look. Too many to list!

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(P)BeSt < Ultimatum > (T)Canata
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MSL Battle between teammates that starts out as a decent macro game but ends in a base trade, Carriers, Nukes and Lockdowns!

p11



Academy of ESPORTS



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Question of the Week
Most thoughtful gift you have bought?
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
December 22 2009 07:16 GMT
#2
nice my blog got featured :3

hmm i got my older brother his own paintball gun because when he played with friends he was always the only one who had to rent their own.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
December 22 2009 07:20 GMT
#3
Nice issue. Well formatted, however I already read most of the good stuff on here. Still nice work.
bluemanrocks
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States304 Posts
December 22 2009 07:20 GMT
#4
the bottom two troll booths are the same link! unless youre trolling me =P

another great edition.
I AM THE THIRD GATE GUARDIAN
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 22 2009 11:01 GMT
#5
On December 22 2009 16:20 bluemanrocks wrote:
the bottom two troll booths are the same link! unless youre trolling me =P

another great edition.


I dont think it is...

Great bans this week... really epic ones (We miss you fana)

thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
December 22 2009 12:06 GMT
#6
Nice PX~!
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
December 22 2009 13:11 GMT
#7
I can spell Delirium right! Been meaning to drop the 404. Pretty sure I made a post in name-change... who knows, perhaps 404. will come back.

Was a pretty epic Pony Express =) thanks ya'll!
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
December 22 2009 13:24 GMT
#8
On December 22 2009 16:16 Grobyc wrote:
nice my blog got featured :3

hmm i got my older brother his own paintball gun because when he played with friends he was always the only one who had to rent their own.

That's one great gift imho. Love paintball and I got the same issue so I'll just pray XD.
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
BearJamon
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States34 Posts
December 22 2009 15:50 GMT
#9
great issue guys

especially liked grobyc's automated ban list. rofl
bluemanrocks
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States304 Posts
December 22 2009 22:39 GMT
#10
On December 22 2009 20:01 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2009 16:20 bluemanrocks wrote:
the bottom two troll booths are the same link! unless youre trolling me =P

another great edition.


I dont think it is...

Great bans this week... really epic ones (We miss you fana)



pretty sure they ninja'd it =P

no front page love for this???
I AM THE THIRD GATE GUARDIAN
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
December 22 2009 23:26 GMT
#11
Haha ya I changed it when I read that, luckily I came across the thread earlier so I knew which thread he was talking about ^^
Moderator
pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
December 22 2009 23:45 GMT
#12
great edition kau! abuseful day
#1 midas fan
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
December 23 2009 00:48 GMT
#13
u gotta skate
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
December 23 2009 01:04 GMT
#14
I've been watching the Random Image for 5 minutes now.
Writer
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-23 01:16:22
December 23 2009 01:16 GMT
#15
Haha 'ya gotta stake' is apparently the predominant feature of my blog ._.

On December 23 2009 10:04 scintilliaSD wrote:
I've been watching the Random Image for 5 minutes now.

Yeah wow
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
BearJamon
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States34 Posts
December 23 2009 12:21 GMT
#16
I just read the combat-ex thread shit was so fucked up loool

SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
December 23 2009 12:29 GMT
#17
love the bans
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
December 23 2009 12:35 GMT
#18
On December 23 2009 10:04 scintilliaSD wrote:
I've been watching the Random Image for 5 minutes now.

Every time I've checked this thread man, every single damn time.
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
December 23 2009 14:19 GMT
#19
Nice! Fana....

Excellent PX. 5/5. Would read again.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
December 23 2009 14:21 GMT
#20
Thanks for all the hard work guys! Can we expect an extra special holiday issue?
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
December 23 2009 15:15 GMT
#21
I don't really know what I could do to make it extra special to be honest.
Moderator
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
December 23 2009 21:33 GMT
#22
make all the text red and green!!!
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Trident
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Bhutan54 Posts
December 23 2009 21:49 GMT
#23
ROFL at the new combat-ex abuse haha
Dont stress, meditate
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
December 24 2009 04:19 GMT
#24
:O! Good issue! Haha I loved the bans this week :D
Life?
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-24 04:45:58
December 24 2009 04:41 GMT
#25
the combat-ex abuse one was so funny, he tried to call combat-ex out and got called out by everyone for agreeing to help combat abuse
Sullifam
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
December 24 2009 09:19 GMT
#26
I don't even remember how combat-ex went out. did he end up stop making VODs or is he still doing it?
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
December 24 2009 09:20 GMT
#27
He stopped and then started again. Afaik he is still doing it.
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
December 24 2009 09:59 GMT
#28
Nice read again and LoL @ Chill :D
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