EPTfyi since most europeans seem to be surprised about this I dont know if someone mentioned but in the US its common to have a mandatory gratuity for groups over a certain size.
A table of 8 being charged a gratuity is pretty common.
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Sadist
United States7299 Posts
fyi since most europeans seem to be surprised about this I dont know if someone mentioned but in the US its common to have a mandatory gratuity for groups over a certain size. A table of 8 being charged a gratuity is pretty common. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10825 Posts
 .Tip's in switzerland are completly up to the customer... I rarely/never give over 10%... And if i probably was drunk like hell and have lost all sense for money  . | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On November 20 2009 23:13 Velr wrote: You are strange folks over there .Tip's in switzerland are completly up to the customer... I rarely/never give over 10%... And if i probably was drunk like hell and have lost all sense for money .Wait staff probably gets paid more than the waiting staff in the states. | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
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killercheebo
Korea (North)46 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10825 Posts
On November 20 2009 23:21 Amber[LighT] wrote: Wait staff probably gets paid more than the waiting staff in the states. I have no doubt about that. But our tips don't really *scale* that much with the height of the bill. You just give what you think is good, you also don't get dirty looks (at least no long/strong ones ) if you don't give any at all. Most of the time we just round up to the next 5 or 10 bucks (i love this crysis... 1 swiss franc = 1$ makes being here a lot easyer :p... now just please crash that euro :p). But well, it's a tip and it's really a way for you to say thank you for really good service. As soon as it is expected from you, it is pointless. | ||
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pyrogenetix
China5098 Posts
why not just calculate the service charge into the food and fire/employ waiters based on interviews and not "let's hire them and hope they do well becaues of the tipping system" | ||
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Oddysay
Canada597 Posts
if you got bad service you can pay nothing , that up to the people what you want to give usualy , you should give 15 % when the service was ok . usualy i alway pay 15 % but if i got realy bad service im going to pay nothing too . anyway you should never get arrested for pay nothing , that kinda stupid and crazy . | ||
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white_box921
United Kingdom967 Posts
On November 20 2009 16:12 Zurles wrote: This is also true and hilarious. Whole story sickens me though, glad it was in your country and not mine. yea, and all the police can do here is to take your contacts and let the restaurant pursue you in court. Do we have mandatory service charges? Somehow, from my memory, even if it is stated in the menu/by staff, it cannot be forced. Correct me if I am wrong. | ||
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TeCh)PsylO
United States3552 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10825 Posts
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starcraft911
Korea (South)1263 Posts
The business just screwed itself over by ruining their image and losing many potential customers over a 16 dollar tip. Good job! I was thinking the same thing. Bad advertising. I know if I was in PA I wouldn't go there. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9105 Posts
On November 20 2009 18:33 Highways wrote: I would've thought that its easier to serve large groups. I mean there's less overhead. No it's actually a lot harder. At least from the perspective of the job the waiter(s) have to do and in terms of the kitchen getting all the food done reasonably close together and then getting it all to the table at once. It's also more work in terms of getting people refills and stuff, but hopefully they're drinking alcohol which actually makes it a bit easier, at least where I work because you just ring it in and everyone pitches in running drinks. It's still good to get a large party though, provided they don't all share entrees and only drink water or BS like that. I mean, there isn't anything wrong with that, my family generally eats frugally at restaurants in terms of not getting sodas that cost $2 but then tip 20% so make up for the smaller bill. | ||
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TeCh)PsylO
United States3552 Posts
On November 21 2009 01:35 Velr wrote: Service is not in any way harder to *measure* than most other Jobs whit no direct *result* (be it data, stacked bricks, cut tree's or whatever). How would you measure it? What would the standards be? What would the measuring process actually be? How would you place value on that in order to create an effective server wage, and include that into the menu pricing? Is that process more efficient that tipping? People complain about having to tip, but tipping gives more control to the customer in terms of price for service. | ||
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TeCh)PsylO
United States3552 Posts
I think it depends on the kind of restaurant. For your average casual dining restaurant it is a lot harder. In a fine dining restaurant with reservations and a limited menu it can be easier, more so for the kitchen than the serving staff, but still easier. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
WHAT DA FUCK!!? MY MIND IS BLOWN. | ||
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zekie
Canada380 Posts
On November 20 2009 07:32 jalstar wrote: exactly, i voted no before reading the article but lots of restaurants have mandatory gratuities for big parties (this was a group of 8) and not paying it is theft. if this is the case then they have to let the people paying know about this don't they? if they don't they expect to pay the price they see on the menu and thats it. | ||
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Elemenope
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
On November 21 2009 05:20 zekie wrote: if this is the case then they have to let the people paying know about this don't they? if they don't they expect to pay the price they see on the menu and thats it. It's usually mentioned at the bottom of a page on the menu. | ||
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haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
On November 20 2009 09:38 Garnet wrote: in Asia there's no such things as tips. Everyone just eat and leave. Win. Seriously, tipping is stupid. Could never get used to it after moving here. | ||
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
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