Obviously the manager did NOT offer to comp the meal. If he said "Have the meal for free." The couple wouldn't say Fuck off, we insist on paying full price minus the tip. We demand to pay you guys 73$ and 73$ only. Screw you stupid free food, I'd rather go to jail than not pay you 73$.

Velr

Switzerland10905 Posts

November 20 2009 08:31 GMT

#162

Why would you pay more if you are a bigger Group? WTF? Around here I would except the contrary. Way to milk the money cow.

This whole system sounds utterly retarded to me. Including tips on the bill.. rofl... Setting them to a mandatory amount...

Common sense, where are you?

AttackZerg

United States7577 Posts

November 20 2009 08:35 GMT

#163

IMO it fucks up the tip when it is mandatory.

I always tip exactly 25% except when A)My service blows or B) they have a preset amount.

Black Gun

Germany4482 Posts

November 20 2009 08:40 GMT

#164

i dont get this mandatory tip stuff in the USA anyway. here in germany tips are not part of the bill and the customers have the free choice of whether and how much tip they give. this way, it is a means to reward for a good service or to punish for bad service.

on the other hand, the waitresses´ payment doesnt anticipate tips like in the states, so that they are not dependent on it. is it true that in the US they get like no official salary, and their actual salary basically consists of 100% tips?

haduken

Australia8267 Posts

November 20 2009 09:10 GMT

#165

lol... freaking tyre kickers.

I really doubt the cops are there to arrest them for that act alone. They were probably arguing and causing a scene and the business wants to get rid of them.

ghermination

United States2851 Posts

November 20 2009 09:13 GMT

#166

What entire fucking bullshit. I seriously hope that pub goes out of business for treating customers like that. If they were going to force them, by law, to pay the gratuity, why didn't they just make it part of the bill?

InToTheWannaB

United States4770 Posts

November 20 2009 09:28 GMT

#167

I will over tip by alot all the time, but when i see that manditory tip shit. Thats all they are geting.

Highways

Australia6119 Posts

November 20 2009 09:33 GMT

#168

On November 20 2009 17:31 Velr wrote:
Why would you pay more if you are a bigger Group?

I would've thought that its easier to serve large groups.

I mean there's less overhead.

evanthebouncy!

United States12796 Posts

November 20 2009 09:48 GMT

#169

On November 20 2009 07:26 rinoh wrote:
The business just screwed itself over by ruining their image and losing many potential customers over a 16 dollar tip. Good job!

yeah lol they're fucked now

Zoler

Sweden6339 Posts

November 20 2009 09:52 GMT

#170

Law on paying tip.

lol

caldo149

United States469 Posts

November 20 2009 10:07 GMT

#171

A lot of times it's called a "service charge" rather than "gratuity" for that extra bit they tack on to the bill for large parties in restaurants.
But regardless of what you call it, the restaurant is the one that gets to charge whatever price they want for their services, and if you don't like it you can simply not go there anymore.
Normally a tip is not added to your bill, it's just a custom, but most restaurants make it clear on their menu that there is an additional fee for large groups.

Badjas

Netherlands2038 Posts

November 20 2009 10:23 GMT

#172

A restaurant demanding a tip without _clearly_ advertising on the menu what the tipping rate is, is committing fraud. If the people in the OP were informed on the tip being mandatory, then they should have paid. However, having a mandatory tip is a marketing scam of the first degree.

Velr

Switzerland10905 Posts

November 20 2009 10:23 GMT

#173

Wait...

Most Restaurants have this in the US?

Here, if anything, it gets cheaper...

Ghost151

United States290 Posts

November 20 2009 10:42 GMT

#174

what a fucking joke.

mandatory gratuity is an oxymoron and is just as much false as their obligation to pay it.

but, as another poster already said, this could happen only in the US.

wok

United States504 Posts

November 20 2009 10:43 GMT

#175

I HATE restaurants that do this bullshit. I went to one with a party of 3 because they publicly advertised "50% off!" Unfortunately... they charged an additional 18% gratuity on the ORGINAL bill and provided terrible service... Food took over an hour to come (it was SUSHI DAMN IT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO COOK IT) paying the bill took another hour because they screwed up their computer system and didn't know how to do math by hand... Assuming how shitty their service was, I would've paid 0 tip. Instead I ended up paying 18% "gratuity" on 2x the original bill... In other words... their "50% off" was complete bullshit and only amounted to 14% off.

If anything... these restaurant managers should be arrested for heinously deceptive advertising.

meeple

Canada10211 Posts

November 20 2009 10:51 GMT

#176

A mandatory tip is just another way that restaurant owners can get away with paying their waitresses less than minimum wage. The restaurant will get so much flak from this though... its not even worth it

imweakless

757 Posts

November 20 2009 11:19 GMT

#177

wtf.. being required to pay tip is just soo fuc king retarded !