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Belgium8305 Posts
Hello, friends.
You may remember me from my ridiculously awesome blogs and powerful moderating skills. Alas, seeing as how TL staff is only paid in eSPORTS Dollars and seeing as how eSPORTS Dollars are basically pieces of toilet paper with smiley faces scribbled on them by Kennigit, with no real value outside of his childlike imagination, I do stuff outside of these forums, too. In fact, I am currently completing a Master's Degree in Communication Sciences. To obtain this degree, I am required to write a Master's Thesis, which I'm working on right now. My thesis is about gamers' attitudes towards in-game advertising. The use of advertising in games has become more widespread in recent years, but very few academic studies have been conducted in this area thus far. This is where YOU come in!
The point of my research is to perform an online survey to see how you, dwellers of the mighty Internet, feel about in-game advertising. I'm aiming for a rather large sample size, so I would really, really appreciate it if you lovely guys and gals could take 5-10 minutes out of your no doubt incredibly busy days to answer my list of questions. Everyone who completes the survey has a shot at winning a $30 Amazon.com gift certificate, so you can finally get that book or DVD or whatever you've always dreamed of! Also, because TL is my most favoritest site in the whole wide world, I'll throw in a fresh new blog as well, just like that.
Seriously, amigos, I cannot stress this enough - you'd be doing me an awesome favor by filling out this survey. Getting tired of me begging? Then follow the link below, first read the instructions carefully and answer the questions! Fly, my pretties!
Also, I'm going to be linking this survey on a few other forums and I'm still very much open to suggestions as to which forums I should pick. Do you happen to visit any forums that would let me post my survey and generate some responses? Please be sure to post about them in this thread!
Also also, I will be bumping this thread relentlessly and with zero sense of shame or dignity. I will be as persistent as AIDS. You cannot ignore AIDS.
Thanks in advance!
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I'm gonna go ahead and do it right now as in-game advertisement is something i've though about quite a bit since it kinda ruined CS for me at one point.
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On October 29 2009 01:28 Garnet wrote:
Done.
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United States20661 Posts
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I think being as how I'm in the advertising field I'm going to be a little biased lol.
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that was surprisingly short. i'm worried you may not have asked enough questions to get an accurate representation :S
but still, filled it out =)
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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Finished. Looking at my answers again though, might as well as say that if ad costs will lower retail price, anything goes.
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
ThesisTools would like to thank you for completing this survey. Feedback on surveys will be published at www.academicrepublic.com
Guys, it takes like 2 minutes to complete this survey so Cow isn't asking alot.
Good luck on your thesis.
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Finished the survey, was a shame there wasn't an option to elaborate on some of your choices. Personally, I don't like advertising in games all that much, especially when it's obtrusive as it can sometimes be. A billboard in a racing game, or a logo branded onto player gear in a sports game is fine with me. It actually has some justification for being there, and as long as it isn't too far in your face, I don't really have a problem with it. When an ad appears in an RPG or something, just for the sake of bringing in revenue, I think it ruins the immersion a bit.
I wouldn't pay too much more for a game if it came free of advertising, unless the advertising was extremely obtrusive, and essentially required you to spend a significant amount of time looking at an ad. And in that case, I'd probably just find another game, unless it was something special.
I would however play a game that had more advertising (once again, as long as it isn't too obtrusive), if it came with a cheaper price tag.
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I just scratched your back.
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non-native speaker needs help 
I don't understand this question:
Advertising in video games is acceptable when the products or brands advertised are made up.
Made up brand? I need examples of both made and non-made up because I have no idea how to answer this 1
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On October 29 2009 01:41 beetlelisk wrote:non-native speaker needs help I don't understand this question: Show nested quote +Advertising in video games is acceptable when the products or brands advertised are made up. Made up brand? I need examples of both made and non-made up because I have no idea how to answer this 1
a real energy drink would be red bull (actually exists)
a made up energy drink would be bear semen (does not actually exist unless day9 makes it happen)
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:D ok
problem is what is the point in advertising Bear Semen?
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there isn't any, revenue wise for Bear Semen Ltd. because it doesn't exist. usually you'd see fake ads in ... like GTA games on billboards because.. well there's billboards in real life and they have ads, and GTA is supposed to be a simulation of real life, so it kind of helps the immersion? i guess? i dunno
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On October 29 2009 01:43 beetlelisk wrote:
:D ok
problem is what is the point in advertising Bear Semen?
If I said it was Bear Semen made by Apple, even though it is a fake product, it still helps in brand recognition.
In something like anime, for example, they like to avoid blatant using products from a certain company, but to aid people's recognition of what the subject is, they can have something that says SONV, or AVIO, etc. It doesn't necessarily have to be a specific product being advertised, the image of the brand is just as important.
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Very Very short survey. Also, not very detailed. But I guess this survey is only a small part of the thesis
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On October 29 2009 01:45 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2009 01:43 beetlelisk wrote:
:D ok
problem is what is the point in advertising Bear Semen? If I said it was Bear Semen made by Apple, even though it is a fake product, it still helps in brand recognition. In something like anime, for example, they like to avoid blatant using products from a certain company, but to aid people's recognition of what the subject is, they can have something that says SONV, or AVIO, etc. It doesn't necessarily have to be a specific product being advertised, the image of the brand is just as important.
yeah there's also fake ads but that are obviously aimed at real products, for example you could have Nikey with a backwards swoosh logo or whatever. Actually I'm not sure what the reasoning for those types of ads is.. maybe they were too lazy to work out proper royalty costs and just said "hey give us X million, we'll make something that gamers will connect to your company even tho it's not really yours"?
maybe someone could enlighten me why those exist :s
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Done. There was quite a few bad questions though in my opinion, but if they serve your purpose it's all good
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I'm pretty neutral toward advertisements in games, as long as they don't become commercial breaks.
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
Done! Also, cheque is in the mail.
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Done. This reminded me of when I was appreciating how cool some of the environments in The Matrix: Path of Neo looked, until i was turned off by seeing an nVidea ad.
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I read the thread title as "Help me rape my sister"
I clicked it right away
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I don't really mind advertisements in games and if advertisements in games lead to cheaper prices of the games i'm all for that!
lol @ eSPORTS dollars ^^
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dont care for the amazon gift certificate but new blogpost omgz
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Also about this one:
I generally prefer games that do not have advertisements or product placements in them to those that do.
Where exactly are those advertisements meant to be? In terms of SC
I have nothing against iCCup banner here but at the same time no idea where it can be beside top of chatroom
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Done. Do publish the thesis though 
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On October 29 2009 01:45 JeeJee wrote:
there isn't any, revenue wise for Bear Semen Ltd. because it doesn't exist. usually you'd see fake ads in ... like GTA games on billboards because.. well there's billboards in real life and they have ads, and GTA is supposed to be a simulation of real life, so it kind of helps the immersion? i guess? i dunno
On October 29 2009 01:45 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2009 01:43 beetlelisk wrote:
:D ok
problem is what is the point in advertising Bear Semen? If I said it was Bear Semen made by Apple, even though it is a fake product, it still helps in brand recognition. In something like anime, for example, they like to avoid blatant using products from a certain company, but to aid people's recognition of what the subject is, they can have something that says SONV, or AVIO, etc. It doesn't necessarily have to be a specific product being advertised, the image of the brand is just as important.
ahhhhaa ok thank you
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Canada5565 Posts
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Well, the McDonalds sign has become so universally understood nowadays that as long as we see something that looks like a M on that circle near a building that kind of resembles a fast food restaurant, the reflex says that "Hey, that's a McD!". Association is a powerful thing that helps you in the long run.
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United States17042 Posts
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I'm fine with advertisements as long as they don't take away from gameplay. If the signs in a racing game were real corporate logos / advertisements I really wouldn't care at all. As long as there isn't like a coke or car billboard in a medieval RPG that straight up ruins the game atmosphere then it wouldn't be bothersome.
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Done. Good luck!
I don't like advertising at all (excluding ingame fluff stuff). A banner like the B.net banner is fine, but that's as far as I would go.
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United States4126 Posts
It's only a $20 raffle D:
Not like it matter. Done.
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Did the survey and I also would be very excite about seeing this happen. Advertising doesn't bother me at all if it's just a part of the natural environment in the game. If it gets those starving game developers some more cash, I am ALL for it.
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Done.
What was your major during undergrad, Communication?
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Done it, and good job with the questions.
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it's really short to do and not much considering the quality of his blog masterpieces
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I cannot ignore AIDS.
Ads in games don't really bother me so long as they're not incredibly blatant. Especially not when they fit in with the scenario.
The irritating ads are those that impede (like pop-ups on flash games) or pull you out of the experience because of foreign to the environment they are.
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Done.
Why'd you ask my gender twice btw? ?_?
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Katowice25012 Posts
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done. tell if you want it spread
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I Filled it out too. I was hoping for a comment area but Ill add it here.
I find nothing wrong with In-game advertising if its done right. A good example of In-game advertising done right is City of Heroes. City of Heroes has Billboards setup in the virtual world that retailers can buy to advertise something. It could be a shoe or a new game coming out, but the point is that its there to catch the eye of the player without stopping the player from actually playing the game
Some example of a way ingame advertising is done wrong if it forces the player to constantly see it or stops the player from actually controlling the game. I remember one MMO that had a banner streaming across the top of the game the entire time. The game was free to play, but the banner was always there. Another example of unacceptable or advertising is what youtube is doing (I know not exactly game play related, but games have done this) Right now where you have to watch a 10 second commercial before your chosen video is loaded.
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Belgium9947 Posts
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On October 29 2009 02:55 Patriot.dlk wrote:
done. tell if you want it spread
I can do this as well. Just gimme the word and I can send it out to friends.
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On October 29 2009 02:03 MiniRoman wrote:
I'm fine with advertisements as long as they don't take away from gameplay. If the signs in a racing game were real corporate logos / advertisements I really wouldn't care at all. As long as there isn't like a coke or car billboard in a medieval RPG that straight up ruins the game atmosphere then it wouldn't be bothersome.
Same here, so long as they are acceptable for the material of the game genre I'm playing. I wish they would change up how they got the drivers and casters are now saying "Well the Chevy Impala red bull number 32 car just ran into the Dodge Goodyear coke-cola number 99 car..." They need to tone it back down to just the driver's name and car #.
Advertisements should stick to the material of the game being played. If I'm playing an online fighter, advertisements should stick to the MMA and UFC upcoming fights or a sports game with the current NFL / NBA schedule currently going on in the real world.
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If you're looking for more forums I would also recommend posting this on the mlgpro.com forums, and the associated gamebattles.com forums. MLG kids game hard.
Also, done.
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On October 29 2009 03:12 hordeau wrote:I wish they would change up how they got the drivers and casters are now saying "Well the Chevy Impala red bull number 32 car just ran into the Dodge Goodyear coke-cola number 99 car..." They need to tone it back down to just the driver's name and car #.
Well if you'd stop playing that lame NASCAR game and pick up a game modeled after real racing, like F1 or MotoGP, you wouldn't have that problem! 
I mean, unless you like going around in circles getting dizzy waiting for someone to crash because that's the most exciting thing that happens in NASCAR.
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Fuck you, I'm not going to do this. I sincerely hope the worst for you and that you fail your thesis, faggot.
+ Show Spoiler +Nah just kidding, done! You're a hilarious poster~ Best of luck!
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I like/don't mind advertising in games because, in addition to added realism and cheaper cost, it means the game company has more resources to spend on the game, which (hopefully, at least) makes for a better game.
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this was easy, i knew all the answers
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Hey, the survey only mentions a $20 gift certificate! Are you scamming us??
+ Show Spoiler +
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Sent my answers.
I'm not bothered by advertising in games like sports or GTA where it's realistic. But it's scary how easily we accept having our minds constantly blasted by intellectual littering, so I'm still kind of negative.
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How could I not help someone who makes me laugh so consistently! I'm only bummed because this is like the first post of yours I've read that hasn't made me laugh out loud D:
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Done.
I don't mind banner ads in Starcraft or billboards in, say, GTA. However, games which have world immersion as part of their selling point I expect to be ad-free.
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Done and done, hope this helps
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Done
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On October 29 2009 04:00 538 wrote:Hey, the survey only mentions a $20 gift certificate! Are you scamming us?? + Show Spoiler +
Yea I TOTALLY would never have agreed had I known it was $20 instead of $30. Fuck.
Done.
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Done. Good luck with your thesis cow.
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done.
some of the questions are ambiguous.
ultimately all advertising can be made unobtrusive - in these cases, i of course don't mind it. If you're playing a game that instigates a pop-up in front of your game, then that will be obtrusive regardless of the genre.
advertising done right is never a problem, and advertising should always be done right. The questions did not make a distinction between the two types of advertising.
the banner in starcraft is not a problem. the banner at the top of teamliquid is not a problem. having a strategically placed coke can [to me] is not a problem. Having a popup, or an additional screen specifically for advertising that you have to navigate through to get to the next stage in the action you're trying to take, is a problem.
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I don't approve of the name of this thread and the blatant use of the word "rape" so I won't do it, sorry.
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I didn't like the questions. Like, I completely hate advertising in public space. I'm ok with ads on television; alltough I will always zap away when they occur, I understand that they cheapen the game. If I were to play a game where the ad would interrupt my gameplay or even ask my attention in a non-gameplay-way, I will hate it. However, if they have a big coca-cola sign in the middle of python, I'm ok with it. If in monkey island X I were to obtain a can of holy coca cola, I would be ok with it, too.
I couldn't express this opinion in the survey.
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done.
now where can i see my score?
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On October 29 2009 04:45 Navane wrote:
I didn't like the questions. Like, I completely hate advertising in public space. I'm ok with ads on television; alltough I will always zap away when they occur, I understand that they cheapen the game. If I were to play a game where the ad would interrupt my gameplay or even ask my attention in a non-gameplay-way, I will hate it. However, if they have a big coca-cola sign in the middle of python, I'm ok with it. If in monkey island X I were to obtain a can of holy coca cola, I would be ok with it, too.
I couldn't express this opinion in the survey.
common issue with surveys unfortunately.
that's why the method of my thesis will be discourse analysis
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On October 29 2009 04:16 Stormer wrote:Done
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Done.
I would welcome any amount of advertising in video
games if it were to make the games available for free.
^No, I do not want to micromanage clicking the "x" on pop up boxes in addition to playing Starcraft 2
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On October 29 2009 05:07 endGame wrote:
Done.
I would welcome any amount of advertising in video
games if it were to make the games available for free.
^No, I do not want to micromanage clicking the "x" on pop up boxes in addition to playing Starcraft 2
This is really starting to irritate me with Livestream. Is there a competitor which doesn't feature these types of ads? Because I really, really hate endorsing the software just on principle.
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Done
I'd also like to mention that advertising doesn't bother me at all as long as it is part of the game (like a billboard or vending machine or something like that) but any ad that I have to watch or interrupts the game is unacceptable.
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Done, enjoy my 2 minutes of time!
Gotta mention Quakelive which uses big screens at key locations on each map to have advertisements. Kinda realistic, kinda blatant advertising, but it helps keep the game free.
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Done, I thought it was really short
I don't mind in game advertising as long as it is cleaver.
i.e.
For SC
Good: A marine walking into a pub after a long days work drinking a -insert product-.
Bad: Generic ad you see on TV flashing before your eyes.
Why do I think this:
When you play a game, you envelop yourself in this other (and I stress OTHER) world. When something breaks this 'suspension of belief' or w/e you like to call it, I'd say that's 'bad'.
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I would probably get used to advertising in games, even if I thought it was intrusive at first. The giant Pringles sign on the maps in some VODS was annoying at first, but eventually I got used to seeing it.
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done, but im not sure how comprehensive it was. Im quite against advertising in video games were it obstucts general play, or is distracting, but otherwise I dont really care.
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United States889 Posts
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In-game advertisement is a plague and I am glad that it has not become a trend in StarCraft (although you did have annoying examples such as the Pringles MSL maps and the map Central Plains with the Shinhan Bank logo, but which luckily was never implemented). I am also very glad that Blizzard has already confirmed that there will be no in-game advertisement in SC2.
Honestly, in-game advertisement does nothing but destroy the enjoyment and immersion of the game.
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You've chosen a very nice topic there. At first when I saw your survey I wasn't really sure how to answer some questions and how could you forget about some of the most important questions. They appeared later in the survey though which made me all happy.
You should however be a bit more specific (I trust you will be in your thesis) and provide some examples (like the Airwaves chewing gum ads in Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, which were unobtrusive and I kinda liked the idea).
P. S.
Will you post some brief description (abstract) of your thesis as a blog here or something? (after you finish it of course)
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On October 29 2009 08:45 Tom Phoenix wrote:
In-game advertisement is a plague and I am glad that it has not become a trend in StarCraft (although you did have annoying examples such as the Pringles MSL maps and the map Central Plains with the Shinhan Bank logo, but which luckily was never implemented). I am also very glad that Blizzard has already confirmed that there will be no in-game advertisement in SC2.
Honestly, in-game advertisement does nothing but destroy the enjoyment and immersion of the game.
It all depends on the game and the ad.
I wouldn't mind having real product ads flashing on the banners in PES or being placed on the cars in some motorsport game. Also, if you'd have some game that would imitate real life in a way (GTA, Second Life etc.) it wouldn't hurt if you saw an ad here or there in it.
However, most (if not all) sci-fi/fantasy rpg/adventure/rts etc. games should be ad-free.
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Done. I surprised myself with some of the answers. I think advertising in-game is definitely a good thing if it
a) fits in - a racing or sports game with advertisements on the sides of the track/field makes perfect sense and it also
b) aids the sense of reality/immersion - for instance, seeing cellphone ads on neon-lit billboards in Need For Speed Underground makes a lot of sense.
On the other hand, seeing a billboard in like, Counter-Strike makes zero sense and sucks.
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Yeah the ads in CS are so annoying.
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damn, I recently bought a iPhone to play games with. I didnt know it counts as video games
*add 15 more hours a week.*
Advertising is acceptable or appropriate when placed in the following game genre(s): (You may select as many options as you like.)
lol. input games that I dont like, which are sports and racing anyway.
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Could you give me a loan in eSports cash, my apartment is currently out of them.
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done, good luck, although i am very against advertising in games, hope i didn't skew any results
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By the way, I hope you got approval from your institutional ethics committee. I don't know the Belgian rules, but your survey may fall under their purview.
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Also after completing the survey, I don't mind ads in-game for certain genres where we should see advertising anyways i.e. race tracks, where cars are plastered, etc.
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On October 29 2009 01:28 Garnet wrote:
Done.
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No problem <(^_^)> only question I'd ask is about the different types of advertising - I mean, for the:
"- advertisements you see on the sides of a race track, football field or hockey rink
- billboards or posters on buildings
- product placements, like soda cans, cars or cellphones"
I'd say advertising is fine, but
"- even advertisements placed around a game you are playing on a website!"
I'd say is pretty annoying at times, especially when you get interrupted by them >_<
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Done
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On October 29 2009 04:50 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2009 04:45 Navane wrote:
I didn't like the questions. Like, I completely hate advertising in public space. I'm ok with ads on television; alltough I will always zap away when they occur, I understand that they cheapen the game. If I were to play a game where the ad would interrupt my gameplay or even ask my attention in a non-gameplay-way, I will hate it. However, if they have a big coca-cola sign in the middle of python, I'm ok with it. If in monkey island X I were to obtain a can of holy coca cola, I would be ok with it, too.
I couldn't express this opinion in the survey. common issue with surveys unfortunately. that's why the method of my thesis will be discourse analysis
Foucault talking about discourse~ what a shocker there ;p
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Australia3818 Posts
Done. =]
Let the rapeage commence.
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rofl in game advertisements?
when I am in game, i hardly notice anything else besides the game. I have literally had people come up to me later and purportedly, have conversations with me while I am playing, and I have absolutely no recollection of what they said.
you think in the middle of being reaver dropped, i'm gonna click some penis enhancement ad?
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if the ingame advertisements were decals in the game
like if the command center had a huge "mcdonalds" written on it, and i was getting hungry, probably it'll remind me that mcdonalds is always open.
but little ads on the side, rofl, no way.
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Some of the questions could use some more details but overall a very easy and short survey.
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I understand that this is quantitative research, but if you're looking for qualitative research, as well (The combination of the two is my English Professor's Doctoral Dissertation titled "'Quantumtative' Research"), well, here you go:
In-game advertising is ok as long as the suspension of disbelief is not lost. In the context of video games, this usually applies to sports/racing games, as advertisements in professional games are everywhere.
They are not appropriate in games where advertisements like these would not be found, such as a billboard with a coke soda advertisement in World of Warcraft. In a fantasy/sci-fi setting, made-up advertisement could be acceptable, but only in the context of the game. Using WoW as an example again, they do use made-up advertising, as there's a lady walking around in ironforge yelling at everyone to buy her bread. This is a good portrayal, as in medieval times and the transition to steampower, the only way to advertise was by way of paper or by shouting in the streets.
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taking survey now
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a fellow gamer has been help, i can now sleep in peace.
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done, good luck with your thesis
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Done. hope you ace your thesis ^^
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done. Lol ppl call me "cow" at school cuz my last name is cao
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All taken care of sir. I hope you get a sample size that is big enough for your endeavor. To the people saying it took 2 minutes that's a bit of an exaggeration it only took me about 1.
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On October 29 2009 12:12 skronch wrote:
done, good luck with your thesis
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Just filled it out. I'm not normally a survey person but your contributions to tl.net are significant so I am happy to make an exception. Good luck with your thesis.
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finir. I hope it helps :D
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wow that giftcard sure got a lot of appeal.
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Australia3818 Posts
BOMP.
CoW isn't going to be able to rape until he has at least 200 replies.
Let's do this thang gents (plus occasional females).
But first a joke, "if she's tall enough to reach the mailbox, she's old enough to get the package".
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Done. Good luck with your thesis, mate!
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done, but in the Op. you said 30$ while question nº1 said 20$ O_O
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short and sweet. Very good interview.
Question though:
Is this tool provided by your school? I may need to use a survey tool next spring for my capstone, and I'm well-aware of surveymonkey, but this seemed to get the job done.
Good luck with your Thesis
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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
doing this just because it's CoW
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Belgium8305 Posts
You guys are amazing. I figured I'd aim high at 500 respondents. The survey has only been open for one day, only linked in this thread and it has 480 freakin' respondents already! This is why TL dominates the internet - thank you guys so much! Truly awesome.
Now, to address some posts:
On October 29 2009 01:33 So no fek wrote:
Finished the survey, was a shame there wasn't an option to elaborate on some of your choices. Personally, I don't like advertising in games all that much, especially when it's obtrusive as it can sometimes be. A billboard in a racing game, or a logo branded onto player gear in a sports game is fine with me. It actually has some justification for being there, and as long as it isn't too far in your face, I don't really have a problem with it. When an ad appears in an RPG or something, just for the sake of bringing in revenue, I think it ruins the immersion a bit.
I wouldn't pay too much more for a game if it came free of advertising, unless the advertising was extremely obtrusive, and essentially required you to spend a significant amount of time looking at an ad. And in that case, I'd probably just find another game, unless it was something special.
I would however play a game that had more advertising (once again, as long as it isn't too obtrusive), if it came with a cheaper price tag.
You and some other posters shared this sentiment, and yeah, it's a sad limitation to using these kinds of surveys. So, to everybody who noted their thoughts about the survey and in-game advertising in this thread: I very much appreciate the extra effort! These posts are very insightful and I'm definitely going to look for a way to use you guys' posts in my thesis, to add to the quantitative results.
On October 29 2009 02:05 Kinky wrote:
It's only a $20 raffle D:
Not like it matter. Done.
That was the original amount. I updated it to 30 right before launching the survey, but I made a mistake somewhere so it still says 20. It's definitely thirty (30) (20+10) (15x2) buckaroos, though! I'd say that the chances of a TL respondent winning the raffle are devastatingly high.
On October 29 2009 02:14 iloveHieu wrote:
Done.
What was your major during undergrad, Communication?
The Belgian system is a bit different from the US system, I think. You pick what you want to do when you first enroll at the university (so I picked Communication Sciences) and it has a mostly set curriculum, with a certain amount of courses being free to pick. Takes three years to get a Bachelor's Degree, then one more to get a Master's, which is what I'm doing now. Hope that answered your question.
On October 29 2009 03:08 Equinox_kr wrote:I can do this as well. Just gimme the word and I can send it out to friends.
Would be great, more respondents are always appreciated!
On October 29 2009 08:47 Manit0u wrote:
Will you post some brief description (abstract) of your thesis as a blog here or something? (after you finish it of course)
Definitely. I'd even post the whole thing if it weren't written in Dutch. I'll be sure to write an English summary to post on TL.
On October 29 2009 09:26 Trezeguet23 wrote:
Could you give me a loan in eSports cash, my apartment is currently out of them.
Of course. Just be sure to.. bring them back..
On October 29 2009 03:16 number1gog wrote:
If you're looking for more forums I would also recommend posting this on the mlgpro.com forums, and the associated gamebattles.com forums. MLG kids game hard.
Also, done.
I'll look into these forums, thanks!
On October 29 2009 23:46 Amber[LighT] wrote:short and sweet. Very good interview. Question though: Is this tool provided by your school? I may need to use a survey tool next spring for my capstone, and I'm well-aware of surveymonkey, but this seemed to get the job done. Good luck with your Thesis
It's not provided by my uni. I was going to use surveymonkey at first too, but then I took a peek at what other people were using, and it was usually thesistools. It has a very sober but intuitive interface, it's free (with some minor ads, and the option to pay a fee to get rid of them) and the ability to export to Excel or SPSS. Never used it prior to this, but I can definitely recommend it.
Thanks again, guys. I'm simply blown away by the number of responses - I'll try extra hard to make my next blog a good one!
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konadora
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Can I ask something
by in-game ad, does it include pop-up ads?
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Belgium8305 Posts
On October 30 2009 00:18 konadora wrote:
Can I ask something
by in-game ad, does it include pop-up ads?
it can include pop-up ads, although I'm having some difficulty imagining where that would be the case - don't think you'd see it in a 'full' game. If you'd be playing some browser game though, and it had pop-up ads to keep it free, or something like that, then yes, that would count as in-game advertising.
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konadora
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On October 30 2009 00:25 tdotkrayzbetterthanu wrote:
- Stupid shit here -
Get a life.
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mmm proxy servers are so easy
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managed to save this thread from my worst nemesis, Random Angry Kid That Thinks He Can Be Annoying But Fails To Realise That Any Moderator Can Destroy Him With 2 Mouse Clicks
close one!
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But how will you save your survey from him?! MUWHAHAHAHAHAHAH
lol, sorry, but that thought just popped in....
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On October 30 2009 00:45 vGl-CoW wrote:
managed to save this thread from my worst nemesis, Random Angry Kid That Thinks He Can Be Annoying But Fails To Realise That Any Moderator Can Destroy Him With 2 Mouse Clicks
close one!
Name and shame !
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Completed the survey, hope to win that gift card!
I find in-game ads particularly annoying, especially in BF2142, since you had to install a lot more unnecessary stuff, and thinks that the advertisement software is spyware. Also, there was no way to turn the advertisement software off, and at some locations were very distracting. I cannot complain though since I got the game for free, but I share some of my friends' sentiments that the game should not have cost that much.
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done, really short survey
gl cow !
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So when i checked the option of other, please specify i could not find where i was suppose to explain my choice...
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Did it. Tbh, i think advertising is totally cool in games aslong as it is somewhat relevant to the game. Id hate to play a hockey game without rinkside advert. It wouldnt be realistic. Advertising in other games could be totally cool too, aslong as it is done with some thought. Just spam or popups or some other shit - no thanks, but as the survey intro put it - product placement such as coke cans would roll totally fine with me.
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Done, good luck =D.
Im so scared for my thesis T_T (Still first year student atm lol)
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By which I mean good luck to me for winning your gift certificate
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that took way less time then what i was expecting GL
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capped atm but i will do it in a couple o days
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"Thank you very much for participating in this survey. We greatly appreciate you taking your time out to answer our questions. Your answers will help us better understand people's positions towards in-game advertising."
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done, I hope it helps you...
and lets us know the results when you are finish ok?
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Done. Please post results
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I definitely will, should be around mid December
also, if you guys happen to know any girls who would be willing to answer this survey, linking it to them would be fairly to extremely awesome (who would've thought that TL is 97% male?? also sims and second life forums aren't quite as helpful as you guys)
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Done.
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Just out of curiosity Cow, how many people took the survey?
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the counter currently shows 636, it always lags behind a few hours
so around 645, which is already way more than the 500 i was hoping for, all thanks to TL
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And how many said 'Real time strategy'?
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wow that was a lot easier than I thought it would be... done
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On November 05 2009 10:18 Ao_Jun wrote:And how many said 'Real time strategy'?
about 560
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On November 05 2009 01:36 vGl-CoW wrote:
I definitely will, should be around mid December
also, if you guys happen to know any girls who would be willing to answer this survey, linking it to them would be fairly to extremely awesome (who would've thought that TL is 97% male?? also sims and second life forums aren't quite as helpful as you guys)
Lol... 97% male eh... well thats sort of a one-sided survey... be prepared to admit bias in the thesis
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On November 05 2009 01:36 vGl-CoW wrote:
I definitely will, should be around mid December
also, if you guys happen to know any girls who would be willing to answer this survey, linking it to them would be fairly to extremely awesome (who would've thought that TL is 97% male?? also sims and second life forums aren't quite as helpful as you guys)
I should try the WoW forums if I were you. Lots of women around in mmos ("lots" as in 25% or so )
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On November 05 2009 11:04 meeple wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2009 01:36 vGl-CoW wrote:
I definitely will, should be around mid December
also, if you guys happen to know any girls who would be willing to answer this survey, linking it to them would be fairly to extremely awesome (who would've thought that TL is 97% male?? also sims and second life forums aren't quite as helpful as you guys) Lol... 97% male eh... well thats sort of a one-sided survey... be prepared to admit bias in the thesis
Dunno if that's a problem...it's a survey representative of moderate to intense gamers. A 50-50 gender split would be female-biased if you're wondering about "gamers' attitudes".
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Doing this right now, gl cow!
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Maybe you could try asking the smashboards =P
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Done.
Real advertisement has no place in games. Manipulating the mind when it is essentially defenseless, is bad and takes away quality from the game. Made-up advertisement, and advertisement in adventures and/or heavily story-driven games, are the exception.
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Done, wow 97% male lol, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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i was answering, and at first i got confused with the advertisement in video games....
i tought something like pop ups or s'thing like that...
so maybe are more idiots like me and you could re-do, or explain that... 
PD:at the end i got it, so i answered right..
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glad that i could help .
done
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Done. But I would like to say that there are different forms of advertising of which some I find interesting and acceptable. For example, a coke can on a desk in a FPS would make me chuckle. But a pop up type video advert in the middle of the game or in the top of the screen and so on would annoy me greatly. I also wouldn't like advertising videos outside the gameplay. So basically, product placement or even an video, as long as its on TV that is in the game, would seem like fun.
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