when did you guys decide your major?
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powerbygood
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lilsusie
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Take a bunch of odd courses outside of your expected major to see what you like. You might surprise yourself. | ||
Astrogation
United States477 Posts
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
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Railz
United States1449 Posts
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ForTheSwarm
United States556 Posts
Just joking, find something you aren't only interested in now, but feel would be interested in when your 40. | ||
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520
United States2822 Posts
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BalliSLife
1339 Posts
On October 05 2009 14:18 ForTheSwarm wrote: It's all about $$$ man. All about $$$... Just joking, find something you aren't only interested in now, but feel would be interested in when your 40. Wow, thank you that was life changing advice | ||
Deleted User 31060
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and then decided on two more majors once I got here just because I like the subjects (biology and biochemistry) | ||
meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
Moral of the story: its really fucking hard to find a major you will like. Try to find something you are interested in, and less about what has tons and tons of money. Try to find a balance. | ||
bakalol
United States7 Posts
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TheOvermind77
United States923 Posts
Let's be honest, if you really love painting but you suck at it, and you decide to go to school and then end up living in your parent's basement waiting for that breakthrough masterpiece for the rest of your young life, then you know you are to blame. Many people don't agree with me, but I'm a strong believer in a tandem what you like vs what makes money thought approach. This is practical. I LOVE astronomy. But I knew that wasn't going anywhere...what could I do? Become a theoretical physicist in the sea of PhD's, teaching at a college, making shit money and hoping I'd have an Einstein moment to push me onto the forefront? I also LOVE spanish, but I'm not native and would suck as a translator and barely make ends meet. I also love medicine (maybe not as much as astronomy), and so I'm going into the medical field. It also has money. So it's a win win. Perhaps it's shallow, but I've seen too many of my friends pursue bogus career paths because of what they truly "love" only to end up bagging groceries at Walmart. I'm not saying do something you hate, but definitely consider that the primary reason you get a job with your degree is to feed and clothe yourself and your family. Hobbies are a great way to do what you love on the side, if it doesn't happen to 100% correspond to your job. | ||
Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
I would recommend trying a lot of different subjects, and hopefully you will find one(or more) you are passionate about. | ||
eMbrace
United States1300 Posts
currently in the midst of learning C++, it's actually a little interesting =p | ||
bellweather
United States404 Posts
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
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MrHoon
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but then I switched it as soon as I got to college lol | ||
Humbug
United States264 Posts
On October 05 2009 15:04 TheOvermind77 wrote: Perhaps it's shallow, but I've seen too many of my friends pursue bogus career paths because of what they truly "love" only to end up bagging groceries at Walmart. I'm not saying do something you hate, but definitely consider that the primary reason you get a job with your degree is to feed and clothe yourself and your family. Hobbies are a great way to do what you love on the side, if it doesn't happen to 100% correspond to your job. FUUUU Right when I was about to consider majoring in technical theater too...T__T. First my mom tells me I won't be able to find a job, and then this... | ||
eMbrace
United States1300 Posts
On October 05 2009 16:21 Humbug wrote: FUUUU Right when I was about to consider majoring in technical theater too...T__T. First my mom tells me I won't be able to find a job, and then this... If you're boss at it then go for it. It's just that a lot of dumb people try to major in glorified things that they are terrible at. I mean, look how bad journalism is today. | ||
SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
1. Would I enjoy doing this for the next 30 years? 2. Would it give me cash? Prolly number 1 made up about 80% of my decision. | ||
Husky
United States3362 Posts
At first I wanted to be a veterinarian, but after doing research into a couple classes and talking to a few real ones they ALL said go into nursing/working with people. So I did some nursing stuff. Found out after taking some of the preliminaries its like impossible to get into schooling in my state (I really dont want to move out of Oregon). After that I went into computer science. To be completely honest I bombed out of it fucking harder than I've ever failed at anything, ever. Spent a year doing it at a university and found I CANT FUCKING STAND IT. I love computers, dont get me wrong. But 7 math classes and a shit load of programming classes? Nothx. So now I'm finishing my 4 associates (yes... 4) in random computer fields (software, networking, database, and programing) and after that will probably go to a tech college. I found out I like computers, just not programming/math. In other words, I'm 22 and still dont know what my major will be. For some people its easy, for others its a lot more difficult. | ||
jfazz
Australia672 Posts
Good luck! | ||
Mori600
Japan311 Posts
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Was going to do information systems, but they don't really have that at my uni, only a hardcore CS department that's like 99% software design and nothing else. Switched to economics and kind of got into it, it's very relevant to the problems of humanity, and the professors are all top notch. Was considering Business at Smith's Business school at UMD, but i'm not enough of a pretentious douche to get an MBA and start leeching off society as some middle tier manager so stuck with econ. | ||
HeaDStrong
Scotland785 Posts
do something you love. work hard and play even harder. gl&hf | ||
sporkify
United States31 Posts
1. Unless you have a very rich family and don't need to work, you should look towards a career. This doesn't necessarily mean pick a career oriented major (ie you can be and English major then go to law school) but you shouldn't major in underwater basket weaving. 2. Make sure you can handle your major. I've seen several cases (and heard of many more) of people who can't hack the course load. 3. Pick something that you get some level of enjoyment from, ie. don't work with computers if the mere sight of one makes you search for the nearest sledgehammer. 4. Pick something you are good at. Different people find different things easy. For instance, I have a very good grasp of a couple fields of sciences, along with an understanding of numbers. I go for a major (or two majors, in my case...but keep in mind that you don't have to just have one major, you can also try for a minor on the side...) that you have an advantage in. In short, study and learn how to do something that A. Is needed in society, and B. You can do better than other people. | ||
Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On October 05 2009 18:32 Sadistx wrote: By the end of 1st year in college. Was going to do information systems, but they don't really have that at my uni, only a hardcore CS department that's like 99% software design and nothing else. Switched to economics and kind of got into it, it's very relevant to the problems of humanity, and the professors are all top notch. Was considering Business at Smith's Business school at UMD, but i'm not enough of a pretentious douche to get an MBA and start leeching off society as some middle tier manager so stuck with econ. You should totally go for the MBA. I get my MPA next May and I'm thinking I may need to go back for some extra assurance (aka going back to get my MBA)... ![]() BTW for the OP, you really have until the end of your Sophomore year, but make sure the classes you take will apply. And Summer classes are fun, one month long classes and typically they can be done online! (3 creds too) I took two summer courses the end of my Junior Year and for the first year of grad school (travel course to England). Definitely worth it. Have to take my capstone over the summer and I'm done (5 years for a BA + MPA). | ||
Alphonsse
United States518 Posts
On October 05 2009 18:06 HuskyTheHusky wrote: Oh god, lets see... At first I wanted to be a veterinarian, but after doing research into a couple classes and talking to a few real ones they ALL said go into nursing/working with people. So I did some nursing stuff. Found out after taking some of the preliminaries its like impossible to get into schooling in my state (I really dont want to move out of Oregon). After that I went into computer science. To be completely honest I bombed out of it fucking harder than I've ever failed at anything, ever. Spent a year doing it at a university and found I CANT FUCKING STAND IT. I love computers, dont get me wrong. But 7 math classes and a shit load of programming classes? Nothx. So now I'm finishing my 4 associates (yes... 4) in random computer fields (software, networking, database, and programing) and after that will probably go to a tech college. I found out I like computers, just not programming/math. In other words, I'm 22 and still dont know what my major will be. For some people its easy, for others its a lot more difficult. Sounds like an IT degree would be a good match for you. It's funny, I have a friend that did just that -- also got like 3 associates random computer associates degrees, then went on to get his degree in IT. The school we go / went to is OIT btw, it's a decent school I guess? (no basis for comparison lol) Every friend I've had that graduated got a job in their field, so that's a good sign. | ||
viewer
Canada662 Posts
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omninmo
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spring semester switched to philosophy. u need to decide in your first year. take class every semester and summers (to lighten your load in spring/summer) year long school owns. | ||
Bosu
United States3247 Posts
While I love the pacing of summer school having no summer break is a pretty big bummer. | ||
Day[9]
United States7366 Posts
i chose math going in i did it maybe woulda done CS or electrical engineering. hooray hard science! ^_^ | ||
illu
Canada2531 Posts
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HeaDStrong
Scotland785 Posts
On October 05 2009 21:22 illu wrote: A lot of people I know in mathematics started in some other department... only to realize later that mathematics is the easiest subject of all. i have noticed this too. maths in first years is easy- take this algorithm and apply- problem solved. but damn these ppl will be disappointed after a short period of time when they'll have to think for themselves. (again im talking about ppl who chose maths just because it's the easiest) | ||
Zortch
Canada635 Posts
![]() On October 05 2009 15:04 TheOvermind77 wrote: I LOVE astronomy. But I knew that wasn't going anywhere...what could I do? Become a theoretical physicist in the sea of PhD's, teaching at a college, making shit money and hoping I'd have an Einstein moment to push me onto the forefront? I also LOVE spanish, but I'm not native and would suck as a translator and barely make ends meet. I also love medicine (maybe not as much as astronomy), and so I'm going into the medical field. It also has money. So it's a win win. Profs make good money, have awesome benefits and get a lot of other perks too. Not to mention job security. | ||
pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
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StalinRusH
United States734 Posts
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
On October 05 2009 14:18 ForTheSwarm wrote: It's all about $$$ man. All about $$$... Just joking, find something you aren't only interested in now, but feel would be interested in when your 40. agreed. that's why i picked business finance. never looked back ^_^ | ||
Chromyne
Canada561 Posts
On October 05 2009 15:04 TheOvermind77 wrote: I'm going to be a pessimist compared to these people and tell you that money matters. At least partially. I completely agree. Unless you're paying for your own expenses, or your family is financially stable enough to sustain you while find that 'perfect' major, you should try and decide as early as possible. It's great to be able to try out different things, and you can't always do this before college/university, but it can be fairly expensive if you're not careful. I decided specific majors to apply to... before I applied (my senior year of high school). I applied for Engineering (Eng Sci @ UofT, Eng Phys @ Queens, Nanotech. Eng @ UW) because I loved science and was interested in the sort of applications that Engineering provided. I doubt my parents were able to support me, and since I started school I've been living on scholarships. I still love the program I'm in, and while I'd love to do other things (Music Composition/Performance) I decided that I'm happy with doing those things as a hobby. Education can be expensive, and it's good if you know what you want to do ahead of time. | ||
mOnion
United States5657 Posts
On October 05 2009 21:09 Day[9] wrote: i love math i chose math going in i did it maybe woulda done CS or electrical engineering. hooray hard science! ^_^ switch to comedy majorrrrrrr | ||
vAltyR
United States581 Posts
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On October 05 2009 15:04 TheOvermind77 wrote: but definitely consider that the primary reason you get a job with your degree is to feed and clothe yourself and your family. LOL You know it's not very uncommon that women make a shitload of cash nowadays as well. welcome to the 21:th century | ||
iSTime
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On October 05 2009 22:06 Zortch wrote: It was a choice between math and physics during my first year. But then math got more awesome and physics got less awesome so I'm in math ![]() Profs make good money, have awesome benefits and get a lot of other perks too. Not to mention job security. QFT. I started in physics, then added the math major 2nd semester sophomore year. Applying to Ph.D programs in pure math now for next fall. I kind of miss the physics, but I don't really enjoy doing calculus as much as other maths. | ||
Chromyne
Canada561 Posts
On October 05 2009 23:18 Foucault wrote: LOL You know it's not very uncommon that women make a shitload of cash nowadays as well. welcome to the 21:th century He never mentioned women, nor whether they made [sufficient] income or not. A family can consist of more than just a husband and wife. EDIT: spelling fail. | ||
EchOne
United States2906 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
then my gpa was too low now im an econ major reminds me of http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=431 | ||
Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On October 05 2009 23:41 EchOne wrote: I entered my school's undergraduate business program, found everything else but marketing to be hella boring, and chose marketing. My father dissuaded me from political science, but in retrospect he was all nonsense. Don't let others steer you like that, choose what will not bore you and what will make you money. Money is king unless you're a maniac (that is, always pumped to work tirelessly on what you love.) It's possible to do both, you know. Just because you're a poli sci major doesn't mean you can't enter the business world. Thats how I got a marketing job ![]() (Poli sci is really just marketing without the budgeting classes...) | ||
EchOne
United States2906 Posts
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citi.zen
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For example, its hard to do many of the business school / computer science majors if you don't start taking at least some of those classes from your freshman year. However, with most "liberal arts" majors you can postpone your decisions for a bit, but should have it generally figured out by the middle of you sophomore year. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17245 Posts
Example (in my case): basic school - 8 years, highschool - 4 years; -> pick your university stuff (you can't really just sign up to univ and choose your courses there, you sign up for specific field right off the bat and you're stuck with the compulsory courses there, in most cases you don't even have an option to take some extra courses). After the change: basic school - 6 years, gymnasium - 3 years, highschool - 3 years; the rest is the same. | ||
Chef
10810 Posts
Sometimes I really wish I'd done math. Been too long to catch up though ![]() Kids in highschool, don't leave it all to university to decide what kind of jobs you might like. You'll find all your windows have already been closed if you ignore it. | ||
emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
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Sir.Kimmel
United States785 Posts
if you decide on a major that isn't as grueling thats fine but most majors especially teaching.. your plan is laid out for you.. and if you deviate your screwed..... so decide asap... if you dont like it.. change.. but its going to cost you in the end. | ||
ccou
United States681 Posts
My engineering major turned out to be so stressful that my biochemistry major might as well have been one big elective. I finished with both, but I doubted my choices throughout college. edit: oops, missed the how I decided part chemical engineering: I heard from a graduating friend that it was the hardest major on campus tied with nuclear engineering, so I just picked one of the two biochemistry: aka premed | ||
Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
On October 06 2009 01:11 Sir.Kimmel wrote: decide your major asap.... taking general education courses and all the stuff first will screw you over...... I decided on psych... but after 2 years I was bored with it.. and I was still just getting all my gen eds out of the way so I was like no big deal... then I enter digital forensics... and its like yeah.... very grueling schedule... and I had to take an extra semester to a year.. and even then the professor had to make some exceptions so I could graduate this year...... if you decide on a major that isn't as grueling thats fine but most majors especially teaching.. your plan is laid out for you.. and if you deviate your screwed..... so decide asap... if you dont like it.. change.. but its going to cost you in the end. Yup, depending on the major you eventually choose, taking those gen eds first can really screw you over. | ||
FuDDx
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United States5008 Posts
So stay in school kids/young adults otherwise you could become a weirdo that carves ice and plays with balloons... who would want that. | ||
bburn
United States1039 Posts
On October 06 2009 00:43 Manit0u wrote: Could someone explain to me how education works in the US? It seems like you have to choose the stuff you're gonna do pretty early. Here you have to pick your field of expertise when signing up for a university and then after 3 years (for the last 2 years in most cases) you choose a specialization. Example (in my case): basic school - 8 years, highschool - 4 years; -> pick your university stuff (you can't really just sign up to univ and choose your courses there, you sign up for specific field right off the bat and you're stuck with the compulsory courses there, in most cases you don't even have an option to take some extra courses). After the change: basic school - 6 years, gymnasium - 3 years, highschool - 3 years; the rest is the same. When you apply for college/university in US you apply to a specific program (biology, chemistry, computer science, etc) then depending on your program you will have a certain number of required courses and a certain number of electives (free, and professional). Free electives you can take whatever courses you want, professional electives are electives within your major (possible a concentration within your major). In general science and engineering majors have relatively few free electives while liberal art students generally have quite a few. Generally speaking it is quite difficult switch majors and be able to complete the program within 4 years unless you are able to get courses waived or you are coming into college with AP credits from high school. | ||
Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
On October 06 2009 01:38 bburn wrote: When you apply for college/university in US you apply to a specific program (biology, chemistry, computer science, etc) then depending on your program you will have a certain number of required courses and a certain number of electives (free, and professional). Free electives you can take whatever courses you want, professional electives are electives within your major (possible a concentration within your major). In general science and engineering majors have relatively few free electives while liberal art students generally have quite a few. Generally speaking it is quite difficult switch majors and be able to complete the program within 4 years unless you are able to get courses waived or you are coming into college with AP credits from high school. This is a pretty spot on description of the US education system | ||
Masq
Canada1792 Posts
Honestly, I still don't know exactly what I want to do. When I get my degree in biomed I have plenty of options. As people mentioned, changing majors normally means you have to catchup sometimes because most programs have 12~ mandatory credits per semester, with 3 elective credits. | ||
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
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Bozali
Sweden155 Posts
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Zalfor
United States1035 Posts
work on wall street retire by age of 30. | ||
Chromyne
Canada561 Posts
On October 06 2009 02:05 El.Divino wrote: I decided last year. I'm a senior in High School. Materials Engineering. Taking a couple classes already, and liking it. w00t represent! We are the future!... Of Materials! | ||
Zinbiel
Sweden878 Posts
Anyway, my point is that following the $$$ isn't always bad, sometimes it will get you somewhere where you enjoy yourself more than you ever imagined. Edit: grammar fail. | ||
Xusneb
Canada612 Posts
To be honest, I didn't really find out until 3rd year that biochem = basic research with a PhD or gruntwork as a technician. However, lucky for me, I managed to get into medical school lol. In hindsight, I would have done a LOT more research into university programs in high school. I lucked out because I actually enjoyed research but I know tons of people who HATE biochemistry because of labwork and they tell me they just picked it because 'oh, I liked bio and chem in high school!" That's a bad idea! It's hard enough to make it through university but to make it through in a subject you don't like is pure hell. | ||
Meta
United States6225 Posts
edit: I wanted to do CS, but took a CS course as a freshman and it was nothing like I thought it'd be. Maybe sometime later in life. | ||
Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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NExUS1g
United States254 Posts
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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
Computer Sciences. | ||
stk01001
United States786 Posts
On October 05 2009 14:18 ForTheSwarm wrote: It's all about $$$ man. All about $$$... Just joking, find something you aren't only interested in now, but feel would be interested in when your 40. There's actually some truth to this.. as in nowadays it's pretty important to consider what majors will make it easiest for you to find a good job with a decent starting salary. It's nice to major in something you are interested in or enjoy, but at the same time you need to make sure it's something that will actually be useful and allow you to earn a good living. Personally I switched my major over to accounting from finance because I noticed the accounting graduates from my college had one of the highest success rates in landing jobs right after graduation. I had no trouble getting a job after I graduated and 4 years later I'm still working at the same accounting firm and making pretty decent money. Right now I feel it's especially important to consider this due to the high unemployment rates and the state of the world economy. | ||
rredtooth
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+ Show Spoiler [if you are interested in my major] + i wanted to do something where i could learn psychology and statistics in order for me to better guess the behaviors of other people (think 'Lie to Me' or any mafia game haha). yet i'm fascinated by philosophy and was seriously considering that as a major. unfortunately those things don't get jobs so like many of the other people i just looked for a major that would apply in everyday jobs and decided on political science - a topic that interests me but not to the extent that i would major in. one day i was browsing through the carnegie mellon website and noticed that they didn't have a politcal science major but had something even better: Decision Sciences The interdisciplinary field of Decision Science seeks to understand and improve judgment and decision making of individuals, groups, and organizations. Carnegie Mellon University is one of the leading centers in the world for the study of Decision Science. its also connected to the policy and management major so i get experience in political sciency stuff as well (to an extent). i don't know what school you're wanting to attend but i highly encourage considering the often-overlooked majors. people have no idea what my major does ("what is decision sciences?" "uhhh... the science... of decisions...") but it managed to fit every interest i had.These theories draw on insights from a diverse set of disciplines, including cognitive and social psychology as well as economics, statistics, and philosophy. | ||
ghostWriter
United States3302 Posts
I figured I would be a chemistry major by 11th grade and I stuck with it. It's nice because it's not as hard as physics (the math is much simpler) and it's not as much memorization as biology, so it's a happy medium for me. Also, with a Chemistry degree, there's a lot of choice: I can apply for pharmacy school, medical school, dental school, etc. or go to grad school and then work for a pharmaceutical company or hospital as a researcher or become a professor or something. Science majors give you a lot of leeway and opens up a lot of opportunities in what you can do, but if you don't want to work in an area that has to do with your major, you might be saddled with a lot of knowledge that isn't applicable in your life. | ||
FortuneSyn
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powerbygood
United States54 Posts
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captainwaffles
United States1050 Posts
So far, I'm thinking just get a liberal arts degree... maybe work somewhere where I can be social with people or be outside... I really have no fucking idea what I want to do with my life. | ||
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Canada4732 Posts
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Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
On October 06 2009 05:49 ghostWriter wrote: The first year or so can just be core classes if you got those and you don't have to choose a major until later, although it might be hard to fulfill all the requirements on time. I figured I would be a chemistry major by 11th grade and I stuck with it. It's nice because it's not as hard as physics (the math is much simpler) and it's not as much memorization as biology, so it's a happy medium for me. Also, with a Chemistry degree, there's a lot of choice: I can apply for pharmacy school, medical school, dental school, etc. or go to grad school and then work for a pharmaceutical company or hospital as a researcher or become a professor or something. Science majors give you a lot of leeway and opens up a lot of opportunities in what you can do, but if you don't want to work in an area that has to do with your major, you might be saddled with a lot of knowledge that isn't applicable in your life. Are there any options that don't involve further schooling? | ||
illu
Canada2531 Posts
On October 05 2009 21:39 HeaDStrong wrote: i have noticed this too. maths in first years is easy- take this algorithm and apply- problem solved. but damn these ppl will be disappointed after a short period of time when they'll have to think for themselves. (again im talking about ppl who chose maths just because it's the easiest) Well, it's still the easiest. All you need to do is to think, that's it, and other people judge you solely on how well your logic is. There is no problem with labs going unexpectedly or people having biased opinions about it. | ||
icystorage
Jollibee19343 Posts
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On October 06 2009 06:41 icystorage wrote: i just picked something that makes $$$, fortunately for me, i loved it ![]() <3 accountancy accountancy makes $$$$? | ||
3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
Actually, it does. But I'm pretty sure your soul becomes a hollow shell within a year. I was originally going to go into Journalism, until I realized that A) I was learning nothing at all in post-secondary english/writing courses and B) It's kind of a dying field and even if I were to find a job the pay is generally bad. It became apparent very quickly that I had an interest in Political Science and Economics. I was torn between the two until I discovered that a nearby school had a Policy Studies program which incorporates both and has a 100% job placement rate. The choice was pretty easy at this point, especially considering that this sort of background would be very beneficial if I do in fact decide to try my hand at Journalism someday. | ||
ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
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TwilightStar
United States649 Posts
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Failsafe
United States1298 Posts
Since I play random and I like all the units I became a Buddhist monk. | ||
QuickStriker
United States3694 Posts
located at: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=103176 | ||
Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
Doody balls..... | ||
d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
worse, by the time I realized this it was in the middle of my junior year, and my professors convinced me to stick with it... that didn't turn out so well, though now I want to either do something music related or go into med school (although my grades might suck too much T_T) | ||
GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
My advice to you is to find a career that gives you a valuable skill set, that is also interesting enough for you to pursue and become very good at. | ||
Wr3k
Canada2533 Posts
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Smokin_Squirrel
Korea (South)674 Posts
Honestly though I can't imagine doing anything else. I'm in my senior year of high school and nothing else holds the same interest for me. Oh and I'm going into music performance. Will probably also take music ed. too like everybody else. | ||
zeppelin
United States565 Posts
edit: i took info science (too lazy for CS/don't like writing proofs), you would be shocked how much companies value people who can give powerpoints | ||
leomon
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
Seems good so far. | ||
imDerek
United States1944 Posts
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Igakusei
United States610 Posts
Do something you enjoy, but make sure there's a career field that you're interested in waiting for you. | ||
illu
Canada2531 Posts
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sith
United States2474 Posts
1. I can apply early decision specifically to the school of engineering. I would most definitely get in (not to sound cocky, but with my grades I'm not sure how I couldn't get in) but I don't know if my interest lies outside engineering and in pure math/physics or not. I've heard it's relatively easy to switch out, but hard to get in, so this seems like a pretty good choice, but I don't know how much exposure I would get to actual pure math/physics and if it's enough to tell if i like those subjects or not. 2. I can apply to university studies and simply decide what I want to do from there (uni studies is basically undecided major, you take a variety of classes as to what you're interested in). Can anyone with interest in these subjects give me some life experience? I'm currently in AP Physics C and Calculus BC in high school, both subjects I enjoy learning about. | ||
ghostWriter
United States3302 Posts
On October 06 2009 07:05 3clipse wrote: Actually, it does. But I'm pretty sure your soul becomes a hollow shell within a year. I was originally going to go into Journalism, until I realized that A) I was learning nothing at all in post-secondary english/writing courses and B) It's kind of a dying field and even if I were to find a job the pay is generally bad. It became apparent very quickly that I had an interest in Political Science and Economics. I was torn between the two until I discovered that a nearby school had a Policy Studies program which incorporates both and has a 100% job placement rate. The choice was pretty easy at this point, especially considering that this sort of background would be very beneficial if I do in fact decide to try my hand at Journalism someday. accountants have a pretty shitty job imo but they can make 6 figures, so that makes up for it | ||
OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Long Story: + Show Spoiler + I go to University of Toronto, Engineering Science. This program lets you experience different aspects of engineering in the first 2 years (taking courses from all disciplines), then forces you to choose your major from 3rd year on. Choices were: nanotechnology, physics, biomedical, electrical/computers, infrastructure, manufacturing, aerospace Knowing that "simcities" in SC (as well as the actual game SimCity series) are what I enjoy the most - I chose Infrastructure. Short Version: the university program was designed like that. 1 month into my major, not regretting it (that much) so far xD | ||
Biochemist
United States1008 Posts
On October 06 2009 11:03 sith wrote: This seems like as good of a thread as any, so here it goes. I'm applying early decision to Virginia Tech this winter (for those who don't know, pretty legit engineering school on east coast of US), but I am undecided as to what to do as I enjoy both math and physics and the applications of them, but am unsure if I want to pursue engineering. I have a few options. 1. I can apply early decision specifically to the school of engineering. I would most definitely get in (not to sound cocky, but with my grades I'm not sure how I couldn't get in) but I don't know if my interest lies outside engineering and in pure math/physics or not. I've heard it's relatively easy to switch out, but hard to get in, so this seems like a pretty good choice, but I don't know how much exposure I would get to actual pure math/physics and if it's enough to tell if i like those subjects or not. 2. I can apply to university studies and simply decide what I want to do from there (uni studies is basically undecided major, you take a variety of classes as to what you're interested in). Can anyone with interest in these subjects give me some life experience? I'm currently in AP Physics C and Calculus BC in high school, both subjects I enjoy learning about. It sounds like your plan is solid. Go for engineering and decide if you'd rather do that or the theoretical stuff. Either way you'll want to go for grad school, in which case it's not usually required to even have the degree in what you go to grad school for. i.e. you can have a degree in math and then go on to a physics doctorate program as long as you've had a few physics classes and enough experience you convince the admissions committee that you know what you're getting in to. But I guess that depends on the specific programs you're interested in applying to. Your general physics class will require college calculus, so either try to pass the AP calc test or take it over the summer or something, unless you don't mind waiting a year to start physics. Take what I say with a grain of salt though, since I'm not the expert on engineering/math/physics stuff. I'm mostly taking things I've seen and heard and extrapolating a bit from how I see things work on my side of the sciences. | ||
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sith
United States2474 Posts
On October 06 2009 11:47 Biochemist wrote: It sounds like your plan is solid. Go for engineering and decide if you'd rather do that or the theoretical stuff. Either way you'll want to go for grad school, in which case it's not usually required to even have the degree in what you go to grad school for. i.e. you can have a degree in math and then go on to a physics doctorate program as long as you've had a few physics classes and enough experience you convince the admissions committee that you know what you're getting in to. But I guess that depends on the specific programs you're interested in applying to. Your general physics class will require college calculus, so either try to pass the AP calc test or take it over the summer or something, unless you don't mind waiting a year to start physics. Take what I say with a grain of salt though, since I'm not the expert on engineering/math/physics stuff. I'm mostly taking things I've seen and heard and extrapolating a bit from how I see things work on my side of the sciences. Thanks for the advice. I didn't explicitly mention it, but Calculus BC is an AP course, it's the second of two total AP Calculus courses, and I passed the first (Calculus AB) with a 5 on the AP exam, so I'm hoping to do this same thing year and remain exempt from the basic calc classes in college. | ||
Lemonwalrus
United States5465 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
I would say just go with something you enjoy AND can see yourself doing after. Even if you enjoy something you may not want to do that as a job. I personally just kinda chose mine in high school and stuck with it because I enjoyed science (biochemistry). If I found something better I would've changed in a heartbeat. | ||
Kratisto
United States199 Posts
The key, I think, is to do something that you're interested in and which you feel good about. I have friends who went into this major or that because they were expected to, or for the money, or whatever. They ended up floundering around and now they'll graduate after me (if I don't fuck up). There's a saying, "Do something you love and you'll never work another day in your life." | ||
Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
I would suggest going to your school's counseling/career services/etc. department and schedule an appointment to talk about things. Also, walk around a university (maybe schedule some appointments with professors beforehand) and start asking people what they do, why they like it, what the work is like, etc. Target looking at the majors you might be interested in. Maybe try to sit in a couple classes to see what they are like. You also might want to take one of those pseudo-MBTI online quizzes to get your personality type. Of course, personal interest and aptitude in a topic are important, but some personality types are really not suited for some majors (and more suited for others). | ||
Polyphasic
United States841 Posts
found out to my surprise that there is no major for starting private boarding schools. decided on a proxy via medicine ala cognitive therapy psychiatry. all in all, took me 3 extra years. i'll have a pilot study of the private school running while I attend med school. | ||
Grimatoma2
United States68 Posts
aka college of science to cs | ||
PH
United States6173 Posts
Psychology has more job options I think, but after thinking about it, there's not as much interesting about it for me, and it's a saturated department in terms of number of students doing it. I absolutely love my major. | ||
Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
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BrTarolg
United Kingdom3574 Posts
I chose maths when i was about 16. I wanted to do something like maths since i was 12. Now i do maths and im 19. And its more maths, and maths and maths all the way All other mathematical subjects are just maths for pussies | ||
zizou21
United States3683 Posts
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ocho
United States172 Posts
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kidd
United States2848 Posts
On October 07 2009 04:04 PH wrote: I was planning on majoring in psychology, but at the last second switched to philosophy purely because I was more interested in it. Psychology has more job options I think, but after thinking about it, there's not as much interesting about it for me, and it's a saturated department in terms of number of students doing it. I absolutely love my major. I would actually say that psychology degree has absolutely no job oppurtunities unless you pursue a masters and then a PhD. | ||
KH1031
United States862 Posts
Seriously though about majoring in philosophy for a bit, but changed my mind. I think that's a good choice in hindsight. A lot of courses interests me - anthropology, philosophy, sociology, history - but with regards to job prospects I "chickened out" and took the easy way out so I majored in math. With a math major and some working experience, I had no problem landing a position in the purchasing department of a cosmetic company. For those of you interested in what happened afterwards - I hated my 9-5 job and left the job. Went and got my M.A. in math education and started teaching math in high school. | ||
Biochemist
United States1008 Posts
On October 07 2009 04:04 PH wrote: I was planning on majoring in psychology, but at the last second switched to philosophy purely because I was more interested in it. Psychology has more job options I think, but after thinking about it, there's not as much interesting about it for me, and it's a saturated department in terms of number of students doing it. I absolutely love my major. I've always thought that philosophy would make a great degree for anyone going on into a field where your undergrad doesn't matter so much (any health profession, law, etc). We need more people who are good at thinking instead of just regurgitating. | ||
YPang
United States4024 Posts
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Rakanishu2
United States475 Posts
I was a geography major and now I'm a financial consultant. Study what you like! | ||
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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Igakusei
United States610 Posts
On October 07 2009 09:07 YPang wrote: my parents dictated my major. Is that fairly normal for families from your culture? If so, do most people in your shoes just go along with it even if it's something they hate? I have a really hard time understanding this, since I'm so fiercely independent. I feel very, very sorry for all the people who are pushed into being doctors by their parents because for the most part, doing medicine really sucks ass as a career if you're not into it. | ||
Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
On October 07 2009 09:10 Rakanishu2 wrote: Keep in mind your major doesnt decide your job entirely. I was a geography major and now I'm a financial consultant. Study what you like! Definitely, I made the mistake of doing a major that I was doomed to fail at ![]() | ||
YPang
United States4024 Posts
On October 07 2009 09:19 Neverborn wrote: Is that fairly normal for families from your culture? If so, do most people in your shoes just go along with it even if it's something they hate? I have a really hard time understanding this, since I'm so fiercely independent. I feel very, very sorry for all the people who are pushed into being doctors by their parents because for the most part, doing medicine really sucks ass as a career if you're not into it. I feel as if i'm a very independent individual as well, but my asian parent's culture is if i dont listen to them or pick a job that THEY think "is hard to find a career or unstable" they think im immature and disobedient. But im not pushed in to medical school, they chose pharmacy for me instead. I'm not really against it considering i'm a senior in HS and dont kno what its like yet. | ||
gunsharp
260 Posts
http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocotjt1.htm Choose one that you don't hate and then make sure it pays as much as you want. | ||
thestool91
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Underwhelmed
United States207 Posts
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imweakless
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Washington, D.C9933 Posts
On October 07 2009 09:19 Neverborn wrote: Is that fairly normal for families from your culture? If so, do most people in your shoes just go along with it even if it's something they hate? I have a really hard time understanding this, since I'm so fiercely independent. I feel very, very sorry for all the people who are pushed into being doctors by their parents because for the most part, doing medicine really sucks ass as a career if you're not into it. ohhsadhgsid god reading this gave me chills of horror. i've been a dropout for basically a year now because of a similar situation, and it's just the most absurd, fucked up thing to have to deal with. i'll probably finish a degree in something still related since i only have a few classes left, but being forced into a major i hated made college one of the worst times of my life. to the op, choose something you honestly like. this is not some inspirational oh my god follow your heart statement, it's more that it's the only reasonable thing to do if you have any self-respect. there are more than enough good posts explaining why in this thread, please trust them. | ||
DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
1. How interested are you in the subject? 2. How much would you enjoy working with the kind of job that that subject would lead you to? 3. How hard is it to get a job in that field after getting your degree? 4. How are the people studying/working in that field in general. Would you get along with them? 5. Income and other less important stuff. | ||
iSTime
1579 Posts
On October 06 2009 06:39 illu wrote: Well, it's still the easiest. All you need to do is to think, that's it, and other people judge you solely on how well your logic is. There is no problem with labs going unexpectedly or people having biased opinions about it. Personally, I find math classes to be pretty easy, especially in comparison with similar level physics classes, at least in terms of the amount of work I have to put into them to get an A. But I think it's just plan not true that math is the easiest subject. I can take random 300 and 400 level psychology courses and get As, but if you took some random psych major who has taken linear algebra and 3 semesters of calculus and put them in a first semester analysis class, they would, more likely than not, struggle massively just trying to understand the definition of continuity. Similarly, algebra requires very little knowledge of math outside of arithmetic and some discrete math ideas, but if you take a random person who knows those things and isn't a math major, they're probably going to struggle in a first semester algebra course. Especially once you get to quotients. I guess if all you take is applied math courses you could get away with never having to come up with an original or creative idea and getting an A, but even that's a stretch. | ||
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Kinky
United States4126 Posts
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powerbygood
United States54 Posts
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FusionCutter
Canada974 Posts
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duckett
United States589 Posts
On October 07 2009 09:19 Neverborn wrote: Is that fairly normal for families from your culture? If so, do most people in your shoes just go along with it even if it's something they hate? I have a really hard time understanding this, since I'm so fiercely independent. I feel very, very sorry for all the people who are pushed into being doctors by their parents because for the most part, doing medicine really sucks ass as a career if you're not into it. I don't understand the "fiercely independent" attitude. How did you decide what career you liked? Was it a scheme hatched in the deep recesses of your fourteen or eighteen or twenty year old mind, a passion you felt you had felt at one point or another and proceeded with because you valued the "independence" of your decision making, the glorious rooting of your life in the frame of your self? Did you ever stop to think that your self, your independent decisions, are probably just a misdirected and uncoordinated concoction of your parents' values, your violent and disagreeable (read: American) reactions to your parents' values, and the values of friends and neighbors and socialization that have been bestowed upon you largely by random chance? Are you pretentious enough to believe that at the kernel of your person you are anything but some arbitrary combination of a million commonplace and not at all valuable elements? Did you ever reconcile this germ of passion hatched from arbitrariness with the realities of the world; how much did they sync up and how much did you find you could trust to lead you to a shade of success, in whatever way you end up defining it? Don't you think that by rectifying your dreams across the ideas and hopes your parents have for you, the values they have come by through their own struggle through life and want you to value as well, you would be a more internally consistent and sensible person? Don't you think that by subordinating your bastard value system, the frankenstein product of an often fucked up society, to one valued by your elders, you might bring a little bit of happiness into the world through them? Well even if you don't think that way, a lot of Asian people do, and there's a lot of value in this culture. I think some Joseph Heller is called for. "My daughter is not obscene, but her speech is dirty now when she talks to her friends and growing dirty also when she talks to us. (I talk dirty too.) She is trying to establish some position with us or provoke some reaction, but my wife and I don't know what or why. She wants to become a part too, I guess, of what she sees is her environment, and she is, I fear, already merging with, dissolving into, her surroundings right before my eyes. She wants to be like other people her age. I cannot stop her; I cannot save her. Something happened to her, too, although I don't know what or when. She is not yet sixteen, and I think she is already lost. Her uniqueness is fading. As a child, she seemed to us to be so different from all other children. She does not seem so different anymore. Who is she?" | ||
KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
I was doing bio but I hated it now i'm CS/Math woot! Just explore a bit. You know you are in the right major if you are taking an upper division class and feel you can do better than anyone else in that class | ||
goldrush
Canada709 Posts
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Igakusei
United States610 Posts
On October 08 2009 10:17 duckett wrote: I don't understand the "fiercely independent" attitude. How did you decide what career you liked? Was it a scheme hatched in the deep recesses of your fourteen or eighteen or twenty year old mind, a passion you felt you had felt at one point or another and proceeded with because you valued the "independence" of your decision making, the glorious rooting of your life in the frame of your self? Did you ever stop to think that your self, your independent decisions, are probably just a misdirected and uncoordinated concoction of your parents' values, your violent and disagreeable (read: American) reactions to your parents' values, and the values of friends and neighbors and socialization that have been bestowed upon you largely by random chance? Are you pretentious enough to believe that at the kernel of your person you are anything but some arbitrary combination of a million commonplace and not at all valuable elements? Did you ever reconcile this germ of passion hatched from arbitrariness with the realities of the world; how much did they sync up and how much did you find you could trust to lead you to a shade of success, in whatever way you end up defining it? Don't you think that by rectifying your dreams across the ideas and hopes your parents have for you, the values they have come by through their own struggle through life and want you to value as well, you would be a more internally consistent and sensible person? Don't you think that by subordinating your bastard value system, the frankenstein product of an often fucked up society, to one valued by your elders, you might bring a little bit of happiness into the world through them? Well even if you don't think that way, a lot of Asian people do, and there's a lot of value in this culture. I think some Joseph Heller is called for. "My daughter is not obscene, but her speech is dirty now when she talks to her friends and growing dirty also when she talks to us. (I talk dirty too.) She is trying to establish some position with us or provoke some reaction, but my wife and I don't know what or why. She wants to become a part too, I guess, of what she sees is her environment, and she is, I fear, already merging with, dissolving into, her surroundings right before my eyes. She wants to be like other people her age. I cannot stop her; I cannot save her. Something happened to her, too, although I don't know what or when. She is not yet sixteen, and I think she is already lost. Her uniqueness is fading. As a child, she seemed to us to be so different from all other children. She does not seem so different anymore. Who is she?" Are money and a prestigious career what matter most in life? Do you really think that just because someone doesn't want to follow his parent's career path that he isn't going to do something useful with his life? I got my values and morals from my parents, but I didn't necessarily get my interests from them. You seem to have this really one dimensional view that there's medicine/dentistry/business/insert other perfect career here/ and that every kid who "rebels" against that plan just wants to smoke pot and party until they get fat and stupid. I think that's actually relatively rare. Kids from educated backgrounds tend to get educations, whether their parents push them or not. | ||
Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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L
Canada4732 Posts
Are money and a prestigious career what matter most in life? Yes. | ||
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