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powerbygood
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States54 Posts
October 05 2009 05:01 GMT
#1
I have been pondering on my thoughts and this is my 2nd year at a jr college. I still don't know what major to go in. I was wondering when did you tl'ers decide on your major and how did you decide on it.
lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
October 05 2009 05:04 GMT
#2
I started with CS because I heard it was good for females to get into. Bombed it. Then I tried education and hated my student teaching. Then it was psychology because I was interested but got stopped by a stats course (I hate anything that has to do with math and numbers) and so finally I went to what I enjoyed: reading and writing. I majored in English and Psych in the end (only because after the Stats course, it was smooth sailing) and now I'm working in educational consulting which utilizes both my majors.

Take a bunch of odd courses outside of your expected major to see what you like. You might surprise yourself.
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Astrogation
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States477 Posts
October 05 2009 05:11 GMT
#3
lilsusie sums it up really well. You should pick an arbitrary major - something that you think you might find interesting. At the same time, take courses that are completely unrelated to it. It's probably not a good idea just to take random courses without a general focus, but some breadth will definitely give you a better insight on what career path is best suited for you.
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
October 05 2009 05:12 GMT
#4
this isn't going to be very helpful, but I chose CS because I liked programming my TI-83 calculator in high school, and needless to say I made the right choice because I'm doing a graduate degree in CS now. Try to find a subject that you enjoy the work of, and hopefully the results of too, because not only will you enjoy it more, you will probably do better as well.
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
October 05 2009 05:17 GMT
#5
I started with Astronomy because I was big into Theoretical and Astrophysics. Unfortunately liberal arts school make you start with the basic natural science foundation for any science major, and I couldn't really stand it. I played around in Multimedia and Design and loved it - hard part was looking for a major that stuck with it. I dabbled in CS but it was all theory and I wanted application, hands on stuff. Information Systems is what my school offers now as a broad management and IT department.
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ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
October 05 2009 05:18 GMT
#6
It's all about $$$ man. All about $$$...

Just joking, find something you aren't only interested in now, but feel would be interested in when your 40.
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520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
October 05 2009 05:19 GMT
#7
I chose Computer Engineering solely for job security and as a safety net. It is not something I want to do, at all, honestly. If I didn't have talent in logic, maths and science, this is a field I would not even imagine doing. By the time I realized how much I loathe the field, it was already my 3rd year of college. I'm going to stick with it until I get my Bachelor's degree, but probably not get a job in the field (maybe teach English overseas or something that requires a degree of unspecified type). I will likely be doing my Master's degree in some sort of regional studies, perhaps East Asian studies, or Linguistics.
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BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
October 05 2009 05:20 GMT
#8
On October 05 2009 14:18 ForTheSwarm wrote:
It's all about $$$ man. All about $$$...

Just joking, find something you aren't only interested in now, but feel would be interested in when your 40.


Wow, thank you that was life changing advice
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
October 05 2009 05:21 GMT
#9
senior year of high school, had to audition for it (classical saxophone performance)

and then decided on two more majors once I got here just because I like the subjects (biology and biochemistry)
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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
October 05 2009 05:25 GMT
#10
I decided my major in third year... but I was going the chem/math route anyways... so if you have an idea what you want to do there's always a bit of leeway with the courses...
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
October 05 2009 05:39 GMT
#11
I started as an economics major as a "placeholder" until I could try to transfer into the business college of my school. Unfortunately, I failed to get into the business college...so I looked at the current college i was in for a major that I might like better. After looking through it, econ was the only major I was slightly interested in, and now that I am at (more) advanced level classes, I am starting to like the major more.
Moral of the story: its really fucking hard to find a major you will like. Try to find something you are interested in, and less about what has tons and tons of money. Try to find a balance.
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bakalol
Profile Joined October 2009
United States7 Posts
October 05 2009 05:44 GMT
#12
Just be undecided if you're not sure yet. Going on an internet forum about Starcraft for help deciding your future is stupid. Some universities have course called 'undecided' (my school does at least), where you're not sure what you want to major in, but you still take classes in certain areas making it easier for you to switch into a major of your choice later. Throughout you time as an 'undecided', peer advisers and counselors help you out a lot. Call the school you're going to transfer to and ask if they have undecided course work. If they don't, then just major in biology. It's badass.
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TheOvermind77
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States923 Posts
October 05 2009 06:04 GMT
#13
I'm going to be a pessimist compared to these people and tell you that money matters. At least partially.

Let's be honest, if you really love painting but you suck at it, and you decide to go to school and then end up living in your parent's basement waiting for that breakthrough masterpiece for the rest of your young life, then you know you are to blame.

Many people don't agree with me, but I'm a strong believer in a tandem what you like vs what makes money thought approach. This is practical.

I LOVE astronomy. But I knew that wasn't going anywhere...what could I do? Become a theoretical physicist in the sea of PhD's, teaching at a college, making shit money and hoping I'd have an Einstein moment to push me onto the forefront? I also LOVE spanish, but I'm not native and would suck as a translator and barely make ends meet. I also love medicine (maybe not as much as astronomy), and so I'm going into the medical field. It also has money. So it's a win win.

Perhaps it's shallow, but I've seen too many of my friends pursue bogus career paths because of what they truly "love" only to end up bagging groceries at Walmart. I'm not saying do something you hate, but definitely consider that the primary reason you get a job with your degree is to feed and clothe yourself and your family. Hobbies are a great way to do what you love on the side, if it doesn't happen to 100% correspond to your job.
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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
October 05 2009 06:22 GMT
#14
I started off in chemistry. I did that for 2 years before I could not longer stand doing lab reports. I love theoretical chemistry still, and lab work, but the lab reports were fucking hell, so I transfered into math. I always loved math and was good at it, but as part of my degree I had to take a CS course. I fell in love with programming and transfered majors yet again. I graduated in the spring and am very happy with my decision.
I would recommend trying a lot of different subjects, and hopefully you will find one(or more) you are passionate about.
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
October 05 2009 06:48 GMT
#15
well ima sophomore right now and i chose CS because it sounded like a safe field.

currently in the midst of learning C++, it's actually a little interesting =p
bellweather
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States404 Posts
October 05 2009 06:58 GMT
#16
I took a bunch of seemingly random courses during my first two years of college to get a feel for what I liked/ didn't like. Decided on applied math and economics, but took a bunch of philosophy, political science, and physics courses along the way. Something to note, if you think you like a certain subject or feel like you fit well in it, don't give it up after one bad course. Discounting an entire department after a particularly bad weed-out course or shitty professor would be a shame, especially if you end up enjoying the rest of the coursework.
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Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
October 05 2009 07:11 GMT
#17
Just this year. I had to declare major to take certain courses. I am second year as well by the way and majoring in psych. Most don't have to declare till third year though. Depends on what you are taking.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 05 2009 07:20 GMT
#18
I decided my major at 9th grade

but then I switched it as soon as I got to college lol
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Humbug
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States264 Posts
October 05 2009 07:21 GMT
#19
On October 05 2009 15:04 TheOvermind77 wrote:
Perhaps it's shallow, but I've seen too many of my friends pursue bogus career paths because of what they truly "love" only to end up bagging groceries at Walmart. I'm not saying do something you hate, but definitely consider that the primary reason you get a job with your degree is to feed and clothe yourself and your family. Hobbies are a great way to do what you love on the side, if it doesn't happen to 100% correspond to your job.



FUUUU Right when I was about to consider majoring in technical theater too...T__T. First my mom tells me I won't be able to find a job, and then this...
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eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
October 05 2009 07:29 GMT
#20
On October 05 2009 16:21 Humbug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2009 15:04 TheOvermind77 wrote:
Perhaps it's shallow, but I've seen too many of my friends pursue bogus career paths because of what they truly "love" only to end up bagging groceries at Walmart. I'm not saying do something you hate, but definitely consider that the primary reason you get a job with your degree is to feed and clothe yourself and your family. Hobbies are a great way to do what you love on the side, if it doesn't happen to 100% correspond to your job.



FUUUU Right when I was about to consider majoring in technical theater too...T__T. First my mom tells me I won't be able to find a job, and then this...


If you're boss at it then go for it.

It's just that a lot of dumb people try to major in glorified things that they are terrible at.

I mean, look how bad journalism is today.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 05 2009 08:41 GMT
#21
Well when I picked Computer Engineering, I considered two things:
1. Would I enjoy doing this for the next 30 years?
2. Would it give me cash?

Prolly number 1 made up about 80% of my decision.
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Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
October 05 2009 09:06 GMT
#22
Oh god, lets see...

At first I wanted to be a veterinarian, but after doing research into a couple classes and talking to a few real ones they ALL said go into nursing/working with people.

So I did some nursing stuff. Found out after taking some of the preliminaries its like impossible to get into schooling in my state (I really dont want to move out of Oregon).

After that I went into computer science. To be completely honest I bombed out of it fucking harder than I've ever failed at anything, ever. Spent a year doing it at a university and found I CANT FUCKING STAND IT. I love computers, dont get me wrong. But 7 math classes and a shit load of programming classes? Nothx.

So now I'm finishing my 4 associates (yes... 4) in random computer fields (software, networking, database, and programing) and after that will probably go to a tech college. I found out I like computers, just not programming/math.

In other words, I'm 22 and still dont know what my major will be. For some people its easy, for others its a lot more difficult.
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jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
October 05 2009 09:12 GMT
#23
I just always wanted to study law, even from a young age. Thats what im doing now, and resultantly I really enjoy it. What I can tell you however, from seeing what many of my friends have been through, is to take up something you have an interest in, not just something that will lead to money. Too many of my friends have hated their coursed and done badly and/or failed. Its really hard to force yourself to study for a number of years when you are not enjoying it. If you are REALLY concerned about money (who isnt!) you can always use some of your breadth subjects to diversify and take some accounting or business subjects.

Good luck!
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Mori600
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Japan311 Posts
October 05 2009 09:20 GMT
#24
I have already decided to major in history since 4th grade. Problem is, it is probably not going to pump a lot of cash for me so I may take up law.
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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-05 09:32:21
October 05 2009 09:32 GMT
#25
By the end of 1st year in college.

Was going to do information systems, but they don't really have that at my uni, only a hardcore CS department that's like 99% software design and nothing else.
Switched to economics and kind of got into it, it's very relevant to the problems of humanity, and the professors are all top notch.
Was considering Business at Smith's Business school at UMD, but i'm not enough of a pretentious douche to get an MBA and start leeching off society as some middle tier manager so stuck with econ.
HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
October 05 2009 09:33 GMT
#26
at secondary school i was one of the laziest kids in my class and the only subjects that could maintain my interest were physics and maths. i didnt have any career options in mind but the choice was obvious- physics. im a 3rd year now and changing from physics to theoretical physics.

do something you love. work hard and play even harder. gl&hf
sporkify
Profile Joined April 2009
United States31 Posts
October 05 2009 09:51 GMT
#27
There are a number of things to keep in mind:
1. Unless you have a very rich family and don't need to work, you should look towards a career. This doesn't necessarily mean pick a career oriented major (ie you can be and English major then go to law school) but you shouldn't major in underwater basket weaving.
2. Make sure you can handle your major. I've seen several cases (and heard of many more) of people who can't hack the course load.
3. Pick something that you get some level of enjoyment from, ie. don't work with computers if the mere sight of one makes you search for the nearest sledgehammer.
4. Pick something you are good at. Different people find different things easy. For instance, I have a very good grasp of a couple fields of sciences, along with an understanding of numbers. I go for a major (or two majors, in my case...but keep in mind that you don't have to just have one major, you can also try for a minor on the side...) that you have an advantage in.

In short, study and learn how to do something that
A. Is needed in society, and
B. You can do better than other people.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-05 12:08:11
October 05 2009 10:28 GMT
#28
Went for Math Education and after taking Calculus I, I realized I don't like Math anymore and children started to scare me, so my 2nd semester of Freshman year I switched to political science.

On October 05 2009 18:32 Sadistx wrote:
By the end of 1st year in college.

Was going to do information systems, but they don't really have that at my uni, only a hardcore CS department that's like 99% software design and nothing else.
Switched to economics and kind of got into it, it's very relevant to the problems of humanity, and the professors are all top notch.
Was considering Business at Smith's Business school at UMD, but i'm not enough of a pretentious douche to get an MBA and start leeching off society as some middle tier manager so stuck with econ.


You should totally go for the MBA. I get my MPA next May and I'm thinking I may need to go back for some extra assurance (aka going back to get my MBA)... . It's totally worth it in the long run to get the extra piece of paper.

BTW for the OP, you really have until the end of your Sophomore year, but make sure the classes you take will apply. And Summer classes are fun, one month long classes and typically they can be done online! (3 creds too)

I took two summer courses the end of my Junior Year and for the first year of grad school (travel course to England). Definitely worth it. Have to take my capstone over the summer and I'm done (5 years for a BA + MPA).
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Alphonsse
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States518 Posts
October 05 2009 10:33 GMT
#29
On October 05 2009 18:06 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Oh god, lets see...

At first I wanted to be a veterinarian, but after doing research into a couple classes and talking to a few real ones they ALL said go into nursing/working with people.

So I did some nursing stuff. Found out after taking some of the preliminaries its like impossible to get into schooling in my state (I really dont want to move out of Oregon).

After that I went into computer science. To be completely honest I bombed out of it fucking harder than I've ever failed at anything, ever. Spent a year doing it at a university and found I CANT FUCKING STAND IT. I love computers, dont get me wrong. But 7 math classes and a shit load of programming classes? Nothx.

So now I'm finishing my 4 associates (yes... 4) in random computer fields (software, networking, database, and programing) and after that will probably go to a tech college. I found out I like computers, just not programming/math.

In other words, I'm 22 and still dont know what my major will be. For some people its easy, for others its a lot more difficult.


Sounds like an IT degree would be a good match for you. It's funny, I have a friend that did just that -- also got like 3 associates random computer associates degrees, then went on to get his degree in IT. The school we go / went to is OIT btw, it's a decent school I guess? (no basis for comparison lol) Every friend I've had that graduated got a job in their field, so that's a good sign.
viewer
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada662 Posts
October 05 2009 10:40 GMT
#30
I major in being spoiled. Does this help?
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
October 05 2009 11:58 GMT
#31
summer before freshman year i enrolled to take an intro to anthropology (my intented major).
spring semester switched to philosophy. u need to decide in your first year.
take class every semester and summers (to lighten your load in spring/summer) year long school owns.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
October 05 2009 12:01 GMT
#32
Summer owns too...

While I love the pacing of summer school having no summer break is a pretty big bummer.
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Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
October 05 2009 12:09 GMT
#33
i love math

i chose math going in

i did it

maybe woulda done CS or electrical engineering. hooray hard science! ^_^
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
October 05 2009 12:22 GMT
#34
A lot of people I know in mathematics started in some other department... only to realize later that mathematics is the easiest subject of all.
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HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
October 05 2009 12:39 GMT
#35
On October 05 2009 21:22 illu wrote:
A lot of people I know in mathematics started in some other department... only to realize later that mathematics is the easiest subject of all.


i have noticed this too.
maths in first years is easy- take this algorithm and apply- problem solved. but damn these ppl will be disappointed after a short period of time when they'll have to think for themselves. (again im talking about ppl who chose maths just because it's the easiest)
Zortch
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada635 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-05 13:07:23
October 05 2009 13:06 GMT
#36
It was a choice between math and physics during my first year. But then math got more awesome and physics got less awesome so I'm in math . Pure math of course^^. Graduating this year.

On October 05 2009 15:04 TheOvermind77 wrote:
I LOVE astronomy. But I knew that wasn't going anywhere...what could I do? Become a theoretical physicist in the sea of PhD's, teaching at a college, making shit money and hoping I'd have an Einstein moment to push me onto the forefront? I also LOVE spanish, but I'm not native and would suck as a translator and barely make ends meet. I also love medicine (maybe not as much as astronomy), and so I'm going into the medical field. It also has money. So it's a win win.

Profs make good money, have awesome benefits and get a lot of other perks too. Not to mention job security.
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pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
October 05 2009 13:09 GMT
#37
I just decided yesterday that I was going to major in German. I don't fucking know why, either but I'm not gonna change it.
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StalinRusH
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States734 Posts
October 05 2009 13:16 GMT
#38
HMM i think im going to major in video game design but frankly idk...ill probably never decide and just wing it ( really bad do NOT do this)
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
October 05 2009 13:23 GMT
#39
On October 05 2009 14:18 ForTheSwarm wrote:
It's all about $$$ man. All about $$$...

Just joking, find something you aren't only interested in now, but feel would be interested in when your 40.


agreed. that's why i picked business finance. never looked back ^_^
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Chromyne
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada561 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-05 13:25:46
October 05 2009 13:24 GMT
#40
On October 05 2009 15:04 TheOvermind77 wrote:
I'm going to be a pessimist compared to these people and tell you that money matters. At least partially.


I completely agree. Unless you're paying for your own expenses, or your family is financially stable enough to sustain you while find that 'perfect' major, you should try and decide as early as possible. It's great to be able to try out different things, and you can't always do this before college/university, but it can be fairly expensive if you're not careful.

I decided specific majors to apply to... before I applied (my senior year of high school). I applied for Engineering (Eng Sci @ UofT, Eng Phys @ Queens, Nanotech. Eng @ UW) because I loved science and was interested in the sort of applications that Engineering provided. I doubt my parents were able to support me, and since I started school I've been living on scholarships. I still love the program I'm in, and while I'd love to do other things (Music Composition/Performance) I decided that I'm happy with doing those things as a hobby.

Education can be expensive, and it's good if you know what you want to do ahead of time.
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
October 05 2009 13:25 GMT
#41
On October 05 2009 21:09 Day[9] wrote:
i love math

i chose math going in

i did it

maybe woulda done CS or electrical engineering. hooray hard science! ^_^


switch to comedy majorrrrrrr
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vAltyR
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States581 Posts
October 05 2009 13:34 GMT
#42
I still haven't figured mine out, though I've narrowed it down to either math or physics. I started off as a clarinet performance major, but then failed out after my first year. Now I'm a sophomore at a community college and will be transferring into a four-year college starting next fall.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
October 05 2009 14:18 GMT
#43
On October 05 2009 15:04 TheOvermind77 wrote:
but definitely consider that the primary reason you get a job with your degree is to feed and clothe yourself and your family.


LOL

You know it's not very uncommon that women make a shitload of cash nowadays as well. welcome to the 21:th century
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iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
October 05 2009 14:22 GMT
#44
On October 05 2009 22:06 Zortch wrote:
It was a choice between math and physics during my first year. But then math got more awesome and physics got less awesome so I'm in math . Pure math of course^^. Graduating this year.

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On October 05 2009 15:04 TheOvermind77 wrote:
I LOVE astronomy. But I knew that wasn't going anywhere...what could I do? Become a theoretical physicist in the sea of PhD's, teaching at a college, making shit money and hoping I'd have an Einstein moment to push me onto the forefront? I also LOVE spanish, but I'm not native and would suck as a translator and barely make ends meet. I also love medicine (maybe not as much as astronomy), and so I'm going into the medical field. It also has money. So it's a win win.

Profs make good money, have awesome benefits and get a lot of other perks too. Not to mention job security.


QFT.

I started in physics, then added the math major 2nd semester sophomore year. Applying to Ph.D programs in pure math now for next fall. I kind of miss the physics, but I don't really enjoy doing calculus as much as other maths.
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Chromyne
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada561 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-05 14:58:51
October 05 2009 14:23 GMT
#45
On October 05 2009 23:18 Foucault wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2009 15:04 TheOvermind77 wrote:
but definitely consider that the primary reason you get a job with your degree is to feed and clothe yourself and your family.


LOL

You know it's not very uncommon that women make a shitload of cash nowadays as well. welcome to the 21:th century


He never mentioned women, nor whether they made [sufficient] income or not. A family can consist of more than just a husband and wife.

EDIT: spelling fail.
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
October 05 2009 14:41 GMT
#46
I entered my school's undergraduate business program, found everything else but marketing to be hella boring, and chose marketing. My father dissuaded me from political science, but in retrospect he was all nonsense. Don't let others steer you like that, choose what will not bore you and what will make you money. Money is king unless you're a maniac (that is, always pumped to work tirelessly on what you love.)
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 05 2009 14:53 GMT
#47
at first i wanted to be a doctor
then my gpa was too low
now im an econ major

reminds me of http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=431
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 05 2009 15:06 GMT
#48
On October 05 2009 23:41 EchOne wrote:
I entered my school's undergraduate business program, found everything else but marketing to be hella boring, and chose marketing. My father dissuaded me from political science, but in retrospect he was all nonsense. Don't let others steer you like that, choose what will not bore you and what will make you money. Money is king unless you're a maniac (that is, always pumped to work tirelessly on what you love.)


It's possible to do both, you know. Just because you're a poli sci major doesn't mean you can't enter the business world. Thats how I got a marketing job

(Poli sci is really just marketing without the budgeting classes...)
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
October 05 2009 15:17 GMT
#49
I know and that's what pisses me off: I let my father convince me it wasn't wise because of some bullshit about me being Asian instead of White, and now that I'm a senior I can't exactly major in it now. Oh well, regretting is useless, but I hope others will think twice before allowing such regrets to bloom.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
October 05 2009 15:37 GMT
#50
The exact timing depends on your strategy :-)

For example, its hard to do many of the business school / computer science majors if you don't start taking at least some of those classes from your freshman year. However, with most "liberal arts" majors you can postpone your decisions for a bit, but should have it generally figured out by the middle of you sophomore year.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17245 Posts
October 05 2009 15:43 GMT
#51
Could someone explain to me how education works in the US? It seems like you have to choose the stuff you're gonna do pretty early. Here you have to pick your field of expertise when signing up for a university and then after 3 years (for the last 2 years in most cases) you choose a specialization.
Example (in my case): basic school - 8 years, highschool - 4 years; -> pick your university stuff (you can't really just sign up to univ and choose your courses there, you sign up for specific field right off the bat and you're stuck with the compulsory courses there, in most cases you don't even have an option to take some extra courses).
After the change: basic school - 6 years, gymnasium - 3 years, highschool - 3 years; the rest is the same.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
October 05 2009 15:46 GMT
#52
I'm consistently embarrassed by my degree, but I feel it is still going to be the most helpful in my dream career and interests. Still, at least I don't have to feel as embarrassed as some people should feel for their degrees.

Sometimes I really wish I'd done math. Been too long to catch up though The problem with soft degrees is that they all lead to the same place: crappy government cubicle jobs that have nothing to do with your degree, but that wanted to see it anyway. It stresses me out thinking about that. Sure a soft degree can give you knowledge that might be helpful in some lucrative career, but those are careers that never demanded you have a degree in the first place... Writers don't need English majors, Members of parliament don't need Poli Sci majors, general mucking about researching other countries doesn't need a Social Sciences degree.

Kids in highschool, don't leave it all to university to decide what kind of jobs you might like. You'll find all your windows have already been closed if you ignore it.
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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
October 05 2009 15:54 GMT
#53
any CS here?
Sir.Kimmel
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States785 Posts
October 05 2009 16:11 GMT
#54
decide your major asap.... taking general education courses and all the stuff first will screw you over...... I decided on psych... but after 2 years I was bored with it.. and I was still just getting all my gen eds out of the way so I was like no big deal... then I enter digital forensics... and its like yeah.... very grueling schedule... and I had to take an extra semester to a year.. and even then the professor had to make some exceptions so I could graduate this year......

if you decide on a major that isn't as grueling thats fine but most majors especially teaching.. your plan is laid out for you.. and if you deviate your screwed.....

so decide asap... if you dont like it.. change.. but its going to cost you in the end.
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ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-05 16:20:55
October 05 2009 16:16 GMT
#55
I double majored in biochemistry and chemical engineering. I officially declared my chemical engineering major during my 1st year 2nd semester and my biochemistry major during my 4th year 1st semester, but I decided my path pretty much at the start of college.

My engineering major turned out to be so stressful that my biochemistry major might as well have been one big elective. I finished with both, but I doubted my choices throughout college.

edit: oops, missed the how I decided part

chemical engineering: I heard from a graduating friend that it was the hardest major on campus tied with nuclear engineering, so I just picked one of the two

biochemistry: aka premed
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Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
October 05 2009 16:16 GMT
#56
On October 06 2009 01:11 Sir.Kimmel wrote:
decide your major asap.... taking general education courses and all the stuff first will screw you over...... I decided on psych... but after 2 years I was bored with it.. and I was still just getting all my gen eds out of the way so I was like no big deal... then I enter digital forensics... and its like yeah.... very grueling schedule... and I had to take an extra semester to a year.. and even then the professor had to make some exceptions so I could graduate this year......

if you decide on a major that isn't as grueling thats fine but most majors especially teaching.. your plan is laid out for you.. and if you deviate your screwed.....

so decide asap... if you dont like it.. change.. but its going to cost you in the end.


Yup, depending on the major you eventually choose, taking those gen eds first can really screw you over.
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FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5008 Posts
October 05 2009 16:38 GMT
#57
I took a total of 5 classes in college. My wife however is still schooling. She almost got her PHD but decided to stop a year before finishing.Though she still takes classes(deferred loans sweet).

So stay in school kids/young adults otherwise you could become a weirdo that carves ice and plays with balloons... who would want that.
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bburn
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1039 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-05 16:39:25
October 05 2009 16:38 GMT
#58
On October 06 2009 00:43 Manit0u wrote:
Could someone explain to me how education works in the US? It seems like you have to choose the stuff you're gonna do pretty early. Here you have to pick your field of expertise when signing up for a university and then after 3 years (for the last 2 years in most cases) you choose a specialization.
Example (in my case): basic school - 8 years, highschool - 4 years; -> pick your university stuff (you can't really just sign up to univ and choose your courses there, you sign up for specific field right off the bat and you're stuck with the compulsory courses there, in most cases you don't even have an option to take some extra courses).
After the change: basic school - 6 years, gymnasium - 3 years, highschool - 3 years; the rest is the same.

When you apply for college/university in US you apply to a specific program (biology, chemistry, computer science, etc) then depending on your program you will have a certain number of required courses and a certain number of electives (free, and professional).

Free electives you can take whatever courses you want, professional electives are electives within your major (possible a concentration within your major). In general science and engineering majors have relatively few free electives while liberal art students generally have quite a few.

Generally speaking it is quite difficult switch majors and be able to complete the program within 4 years unless you are able to get courses waived or you are coming into college with AP credits from high school.
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Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
October 05 2009 16:46 GMT
#59
On October 06 2009 01:38 bburn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2009 00:43 Manit0u wrote:
Could someone explain to me how education works in the US? It seems like you have to choose the stuff you're gonna do pretty early. Here you have to pick your field of expertise when signing up for a university and then after 3 years (for the last 2 years in most cases) you choose a specialization.
Example (in my case): basic school - 8 years, highschool - 4 years; -> pick your university stuff (you can't really just sign up to univ and choose your courses there, you sign up for specific field right off the bat and you're stuck with the compulsory courses there, in most cases you don't even have an option to take some extra courses).
After the change: basic school - 6 years, gymnasium - 3 years, highschool - 3 years; the rest is the same.

When you apply for college/university in US you apply to a specific program (biology, chemistry, computer science, etc) then depending on your program you will have a certain number of required courses and a certain number of electives (free, and professional).

Free electives you can take whatever courses you want, professional electives are electives within your major (possible a concentration within your major). In general science and engineering majors have relatively few free electives while liberal art students generally have quite a few.

Generally speaking it is quite difficult switch majors and be able to complete the program within 4 years unless you are able to get courses waived or you are coming into college with AP credits from high school.


This is a pretty spot on description of the US education system
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Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
October 05 2009 16:49 GMT
#60
Did a few years in college of accounting, then went into arts and science, then transfered to university and im doing biomedical science now.

Honestly, I still don't know exactly what I want to do. When I get my degree in biomed I have plenty of options. As people mentioned, changing majors normally means you have to catchup sometimes because most programs have 12~ mandatory credits per semester, with 3 elective credits.

DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
October 05 2009 17:05 GMT
#61
I decided last year. I'm a senior in High School. Materials Engineering. Taking a couple classes already, and liking it.
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Bozali
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden155 Posts
October 05 2009 17:07 GMT
#62
I never really procrastinated about it. I was always good at math and interested in computers so I decided for computer science pretty much right away.
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
October 05 2009 17:14 GMT
#63
do Math/CS/Business

work on wall street

retire by age of 30.
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Chromyne
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada561 Posts
October 05 2009 17:16 GMT
#64
On October 06 2009 02:05 El.Divino wrote:
I decided last year. I'm a senior in High School. Materials Engineering. Taking a couple classes already, and liking it.


w00t represent! We are the future!... Of Materials!
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Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-05 17:25:58
October 05 2009 17:24 GMT
#65
Not really applicable since I'm from Sweden but this is the way it worked out for me. I was always good at math and physics so I thought I would study that at uni. But then I went "omfg need $$$" and went med school instead. However, after half a year I decided I wanted to study engineering physics. So I did start that too (in Sweden you can basically do this if you manage to convince the study secretary at the second program that you do have special reasons for taking both), working parts of my ass off for 1,5 year to get the schedules to fit(compulsory laborations etc are everywhere :S) and missing shitloads of lectures. Now however I have realized that medicine is way more fun so I'm gonna stop taking engineering physics this spring and just focus on med school.

Anyway, my point is that following the $$$ isn't always bad, sometimes it will get you somewhere where you enjoy yourself more than you ever imagined.

Edit: grammar fail.
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Xusneb
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada612 Posts
October 05 2009 17:27 GMT
#66
I was pretty apathetic in high school (and I still am lol) so I had no idea what I wanted to do. I enjoyed the sciences though so my parents convinced me to do biochemistry, kind of like a 'one size fits all' major. I really had no idea what a job in biochemistry entailed when I first started university.

To be honest, I didn't really find out until 3rd year that biochem = basic research with a PhD or gruntwork as a technician. However, lucky for me, I managed to get into medical school lol.

In hindsight, I would have done a LOT more research into university programs in high school. I lucked out because I actually enjoyed research but I know tons of people who HATE biochemistry because of labwork and they tell me they just picked it because 'oh, I liked bio and chem in high school!" That's a bad idea! It's hard enough to make it through university but to make it through in a subject you don't like is pure hell.
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Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-05 17:30:44
October 05 2009 17:30 GMT
#67
I always did well in math and science in high school, but didn't want to do a pure science major because I don't really like the highly competitive world of academia. So I decided to go with engineering instead, because that's where the money is. So far it's been really challenging, but very rewarding. I have about two years left, and don't plan on changing.

edit:
I wanted to do CS, but took a CS course as a freshman and it was nothing like I thought it'd be. Maybe sometime later in life.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
October 05 2009 17:43 GMT
#68
I decided mine junior year of HS. I basically just surfed the web looking up things that I was interested in and came across Anthropology, now im a grad student in it :D
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NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
October 05 2009 17:51 GMT
#69
I knew what I was going to do when I was 8 and wrote my first program.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
October 05 2009 18:19 GMT
#70
I decided week two of my Core Program (classes are grouped into programs at Evergreen. Core are intro programs) .

Computer Sciences.
stk01001
Profile Joined September 2007
United States786 Posts
October 05 2009 19:03 GMT
#71
On October 05 2009 14:18 ForTheSwarm wrote:
It's all about $$$ man. All about $$$...

Just joking, find something you aren't only interested in now, but feel would be interested in when your 40.


There's actually some truth to this.. as in nowadays it's pretty important to consider what majors will make it easiest for you to find a good job with a decent starting salary. It's nice to major in something you are interested in or enjoy, but at the same time you need to make sure it's something that will actually be useful and allow you to earn a good living. Personally I switched my major over to accounting from finance because I noticed the accounting graduates from my college had one of the highest success rates in landing jobs right after graduation. I had no trouble getting a job after I graduated and 4 years later I'm still working at the same accounting firm and making pretty decent money. Right now I feel it's especially important to consider this due to the high unemployment rates and the state of the world economy.
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-05 20:02:10
October 05 2009 20:00 GMT
#72
make sure you look at the "weird" interdisciplinary stuff too. you sort of have to get lucky with that stuff though but sometimes (as it was in my case) they manage to align perfectly.

+ Show Spoiler [if you are interested in my major] +
i wanted to do something where i could learn psychology and statistics in order for me to better guess the behaviors of other people (think 'Lie to Me' or any mafia game haha). yet i'm fascinated by philosophy and was seriously considering that as a major. unfortunately those things don't get jobs so like many of the other people i just looked for a major that would apply in everyday jobs and decided on political science - a topic that interests me but not to the extent that i would major in. one day i was browsing through the carnegie mellon website and noticed that they didn't have a politcal science major but had something even better: Decision Sciences
The interdisciplinary field of Decision Science seeks to understand and improve judgment and decision making of individuals, groups, and organizations. Carnegie Mellon University is one of the leading centers in the world for the study of Decision Science.

These theories draw on insights from a diverse set of disciplines, including cognitive and social psychology as well as economics, statistics, and philosophy.
its also connected to the policy and management major so i get experience in political sciency stuff as well (to an extent). i don't know what school you're wanting to attend but i highly encourage considering the often-overlooked majors. people have no idea what my major does ("what is decision sciences?" "uhhh... the science... of decisions...") but it managed to fit every interest i had.
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ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
October 05 2009 20:49 GMT
#73
The first year or so can just be core classes if you got those and you don't have to choose a major until later, although it might be hard to fulfill all the requirements on time.
I figured I would be a chemistry major by 11th grade and I stuck with it. It's nice because it's not as hard as physics (the math is much simpler) and it's not as much memorization as biology, so it's a happy medium for me. Also, with a Chemistry degree, there's a lot of choice: I can apply for pharmacy school, medical school, dental school, etc. or go to grad school and then work for a pharmaceutical company or hospital as a researcher or become a professor or something.
Science majors give you a lot of leeway and opens up a lot of opportunities in what you can do, but if you don't want to work in an area that has to do with your major, you might be saddled with a lot of knowledge that isn't applicable in your life.
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FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
October 05 2009 20:51 GMT
#74
CS = computer sciences?
powerbygood
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States54 Posts
October 05 2009 20:58 GMT
#75
well, i've been just taking mostly ge classes along with math classes n eng classes to get an aa or as degree. if i choose to decide to do cs or comp eng wat difficulty would i have to be able to transfer to a uni by next year? also, i would like to have input of people who took cs or comp eng classes or have careers in this field and tell me how it is. it would be helpful. i come from a family that is borderline poor and money is a huge deal for me as i am the first one of 8 children in my family to attend college. i want to do those majors as they have decent starting salaries to support my family, but i dont no how grueling all of the work tat leads up to the degree is.
captainwaffles
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1050 Posts
October 05 2009 21:01 GMT
#76
I have no fucking idea what i should major in, im pretty apathetic to everything, I'm god awful at math (even failed my 10th grade geometry class) I can do English pretty well but what kind of job can I get with an english degree? I'm not big on money, I have no real dream job and I'm not passionate about any field.

So far, I'm thinking just get a liberal arts degree... maybe work somewhere where I can be social with people or be outside... I really have no fucking idea what I want to do with my life.
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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
October 05 2009 21:10 GMT
#77
I kinda took my major because I thought it sounded hard on the selection list.
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Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
October 05 2009 21:13 GMT
#78
On October 06 2009 05:49 ghostWriter wrote:
The first year or so can just be core classes if you got those and you don't have to choose a major until later, although it might be hard to fulfill all the requirements on time.
I figured I would be a chemistry major by 11th grade and I stuck with it. It's nice because it's not as hard as physics (the math is much simpler) and it's not as much memorization as biology, so it's a happy medium for me. Also, with a Chemistry degree, there's a lot of choice: I can apply for pharmacy school, medical school, dental school, etc. or go to grad school and then work for a pharmaceutical company or hospital as a researcher or become a professor or something.
Science majors give you a lot of leeway and opens up a lot of opportunities in what you can do, but if you don't want to work in an area that has to do with your major, you might be saddled with a lot of knowledge that isn't applicable in your life.


Are there any options that don't involve further schooling?
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
October 05 2009 21:39 GMT
#79
On October 05 2009 21:39 HeaDStrong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2009 21:22 illu wrote:
A lot of people I know in mathematics started in some other department... only to realize later that mathematics is the easiest subject of all.


i have noticed this too.
maths in first years is easy- take this algorithm and apply- problem solved. but damn these ppl will be disappointed after a short period of time when they'll have to think for themselves. (again im talking about ppl who chose maths just because it's the easiest)


Well, it's still the easiest. All you need to do is to think, that's it, and other people judge you solely on how well your logic is. There is no problem with labs going unexpectedly or people having biased opinions about it.
:]
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19343 Posts
October 05 2009 21:41 GMT
#80
i just picked something that makes $$$, fortunately for me, i loved it
<3 accountancy
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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
October 05 2009 21:49 GMT
#81
On October 06 2009 06:41 icystorage wrote:
i just picked something that makes $$$, fortunately for me, i loved it
<3 accountancy

accountancy makes $$$$?
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
October 05 2009 22:05 GMT
#82
On October 06 2009 06:49 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2009 06:41 icystorage wrote:
i just picked something that makes $$$, fortunately for me, i loved it
<3 accountancy

accountancy makes $$$$?

Actually, it does. But I'm pretty sure your soul becomes a hollow shell within a year.

I was originally going to go into Journalism, until I realized that A) I was learning nothing at all in post-secondary english/writing courses and B) It's kind of a dying field and even if I were to find a job the pay is generally bad.

It became apparent very quickly that I had an interest in Political Science and Economics. I was torn between the two until I discovered that a nearby school had a Policy Studies program which incorporates both and has a 100% job placement rate. The choice was pretty easy at this point, especially considering that this sort of background would be very beneficial if I do in fact decide to try my hand at Journalism someday.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
October 05 2009 22:24 GMT
#83
I liked computers, math, and programming in high school so I majored in computer science. By the time I figured out that I enjoyed programming but did not enjoy "software development," it was way too late to change my major. So now I'm a lawyer, which hasn't worked out much better.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
TwilightStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States649 Posts
October 05 2009 22:51 GMT
#84
I went from wanting to be a Computer Programmer to being a chess grandmaster :D
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Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
October 05 2009 23:03 GMT
#85
What's your Starcraft race and unit?

Since I play random and I like all the units I became a Buddhist monk.
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QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
October 06 2009 00:21 GMT
#86
Hey guys!! A lot of interesting responses here and this is a good thread to begin with. Basically OP, you literally do have until the end of 2nd year in college/univ until you declare and pick your major that'll be it for the rest of your life. Fortunately, I made my final decision and switched at that last possible borderline before things got way too crazy. Thus comes my story.....

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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
October 06 2009 00:33 GMT
#87
Crap I'm 22 and still haven't really decided what I want to do when I grow up....

Doody balls.....
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-06 00:54:13
October 06 2009 00:48 GMT
#88
so I liked physics in high school, but liking physics and being a physicist are two TOTALLY different things, and so I ended up hating my college classes and dicking my GPA over

worse, by the time I realized this it was in the middle of my junior year, and my professors convinced me to stick with it... that didn't turn out so well, though

now I want to either do something music related or go into med school (although my grades might suck too much T_T)
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
October 06 2009 00:53 GMT
#89
I decided my major as soon as i laid my hands on my first computer, after that i have never even thought about changing it. Im in college now and am still pursuing CS and also work in a law firm in the IT department. I like this field and always will.
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ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-06 01:07:19
October 06 2009 01:06 GMT
#90
I'm in my first year of art school, I'm either going into sculpture or painting. I understand that the real money is in the top .1% of the talent pool but I've got sick genetics so it's OK.

My advice to you is to find a career that gives you a valuable skill set, that is also interesting enough for you to pursue and become very good at.
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Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-06 01:26:01
October 06 2009 01:25 GMT
#91
I wasted 2.5 years of my life taking random things until I found something I actually liked. (I guess it wasn't really a waste if I learned from it).
Smokin_Squirrel
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Korea (South)674 Posts
October 06 2009 01:27 GMT
#92
I started playing violin in 2nd grade and kept it up through all these years because I liked it (also helps I'm pretty good at it too not trying to be cocky). My parents were against it quite often worried if I'd be able to put food on the table but I made my choice.

Honestly though I can't imagine doing anything else. I'm in my senior year of high school and nothing else holds the same interest for me.

Oh and I'm going into music performance. Will probably also take music ed. too like everybody else.
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zeppelin
Profile Joined December 2007
United States565 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-06 01:52:10
October 06 2009 01:30 GMT
#93
I picked my major after taking an intro course in it my second semester and after i talked to the dean and he used scholarship money, job placement rates, and starting salary as incentives. It didn't hurt that i enjoyed the major decently enough and could see myself doing it as a career. I took personal growth/well-rounded person classes with my many electives. Now i have a good education in a lot of subjects and what amounted to some really good vocational training (my job is so much like what I did in college it's not even funny).

edit: i took info science (too lazy for CS/don't like writing proofs), you would be shocked how much companies value people who can give powerpoints
leomon
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada169 Posts
October 06 2009 01:47 GMT
#94
CS atm. It looks pretty safe to me.
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
October 06 2009 01:48 GMT
#95
Biochemical engineering because I have asian parents that encouraged it.

Seems good so far.
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imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
October 06 2009 01:48 GMT
#96
CS, would've done med or something if I was more interested in bio
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Igakusei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States610 Posts
October 06 2009 01:57 GMT
#97
I know a girl who majored in Spanish so she could work as a translator in hospitals. Unfortunately she didn't realize that hospitals (at least the ones around here) don't hire very many translators, and Spanish majors aren't really good for much else here in the States. So now she's back in college doing Nursing.

Do something you enjoy, but make sure there's a career field that you're interested in waiting for you.
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
October 06 2009 02:03 GMT
#98
I think the rule of thumb is to do something *HARD*. Yes, right now there may seem to be some easy programs that land you good jobs, but eventually everyone will figure it out and the competition will become tense within years.
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sith
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2474 Posts
October 06 2009 02:03 GMT
#99
This seems like as good of a thread as any, so here it goes. I'm applying early decision to Virginia Tech this winter (for those who don't know, pretty legit engineering school on east coast of US), but I am undecided as to what to do as I enjoy both math and physics and the applications of them, but am unsure if I want to pursue engineering. I have a few options.

1. I can apply early decision specifically to the school of engineering. I would most definitely get in (not to sound cocky, but with my grades I'm not sure how I couldn't get in) but I don't know if my interest lies outside engineering and in pure math/physics or not. I've heard it's relatively easy to switch out, but hard to get in, so this seems like a pretty good choice, but I don't know how much exposure I would get to actual pure math/physics and if it's enough to tell if i like those subjects or not.

2. I can apply to university studies and simply decide what I want to do from there (uni studies is basically undecided major, you take a variety of classes as to what you're interested in).

Can anyone with interest in these subjects give me some life experience? I'm currently in AP Physics C and Calculus BC in high school, both subjects I enjoy learning about.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
October 06 2009 02:25 GMT
#100
On October 06 2009 07:05 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2009 06:49 emucxg wrote:
On October 06 2009 06:41 icystorage wrote:
i just picked something that makes $$$, fortunately for me, i loved it
<3 accountancy

accountancy makes $$$$?

Actually, it does. But I'm pretty sure your soul becomes a hollow shell within a year.

I was originally going to go into Journalism, until I realized that A) I was learning nothing at all in post-secondary english/writing courses and B) It's kind of a dying field and even if I were to find a job the pay is generally bad.

It became apparent very quickly that I had an interest in Political Science and Economics. I was torn between the two until I discovered that a nearby school had a Policy Studies program which incorporates both and has a 100% job placement rate. The choice was pretty easy at this point, especially considering that this sort of background would be very beneficial if I do in fact decide to try my hand at Journalism someday.


accountants have a pretty shitty job imo but they can make 6 figures, so that makes up for it
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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
October 06 2009 02:31 GMT
#101
Chose my major just 5 months ago - Infrastructure Engineering
Long Story:
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I go to University of Toronto, Engineering Science.
This program lets you experience different aspects of engineering in the first 2 years (taking courses from all disciplines), then forces you to choose your major from 3rd year on.
Choices were: nanotechnology, physics, biomedical, electrical/computers, infrastructure, manufacturing, aerospace
Knowing that "simcities" in SC (as well as the actual game SimCity series) are what I enjoy the most - I chose Infrastructure.

Short Version: the university program was designed like that.
1 month into my major, not regretting it (that much) so far xD
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Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
October 06 2009 02:47 GMT
#102
On October 06 2009 11:03 sith wrote:
This seems like as good of a thread as any, so here it goes. I'm applying early decision to Virginia Tech this winter (for those who don't know, pretty legit engineering school on east coast of US), but I am undecided as to what to do as I enjoy both math and physics and the applications of them, but am unsure if I want to pursue engineering. I have a few options.

1. I can apply early decision specifically to the school of engineering. I would most definitely get in (not to sound cocky, but with my grades I'm not sure how I couldn't get in) but I don't know if my interest lies outside engineering and in pure math/physics or not. I've heard it's relatively easy to switch out, but hard to get in, so this seems like a pretty good choice, but I don't know how much exposure I would get to actual pure math/physics and if it's enough to tell if i like those subjects or not.

2. I can apply to university studies and simply decide what I want to do from there (uni studies is basically undecided major, you take a variety of classes as to what you're interested in).

Can anyone with interest in these subjects give me some life experience? I'm currently in AP Physics C and Calculus BC in high school, both subjects I enjoy learning about.


It sounds like your plan is solid. Go for engineering and decide if you'd rather do that or the theoretical stuff. Either way you'll want to go for grad school, in which case it's not usually required to even have the degree in what you go to grad school for.

i.e. you can have a degree in math and then go on to a physics doctorate program as long as you've had a few physics classes and enough experience you convince the admissions committee that you know what you're getting in to. But I guess that depends on the specific programs you're interested in applying to.

Your general physics class will require college calculus, so either try to pass the AP calc test or take it over the summer or something, unless you don't mind waiting a year to start physics. Take what I say with a grain of salt though, since I'm not the expert on engineering/math/physics stuff. I'm mostly taking things I've seen and heard and extrapolating a bit from how I see things work on my side of the sciences.
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
October 06 2009 03:33 GMT
#103
Basically I took the IB program in high school which let me see what was coming up in uni. I initially thought I'd do biosci, but after experiencing torture through bio and chem, i decided to go with what i excelled at, which was math and social sciences, so i decided to do business. also, my uni is great because all business majors do the same general business courses in the first year so that we get to recieve a good hard look at all the business specializations before we start specializing heavily in 3rd and 4th years
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sith
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2474 Posts
October 06 2009 16:49 GMT
#104
On October 06 2009 11:47 Biochemist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2009 11:03 sith wrote:
This seems like as good of a thread as any, so here it goes. I'm applying early decision to Virginia Tech this winter (for those who don't know, pretty legit engineering school on east coast of US), but I am undecided as to what to do as I enjoy both math and physics and the applications of them, but am unsure if I want to pursue engineering. I have a few options.

1. I can apply early decision specifically to the school of engineering. I would most definitely get in (not to sound cocky, but with my grades I'm not sure how I couldn't get in) but I don't know if my interest lies outside engineering and in pure math/physics or not. I've heard it's relatively easy to switch out, but hard to get in, so this seems like a pretty good choice, but I don't know how much exposure I would get to actual pure math/physics and if it's enough to tell if i like those subjects or not.

2. I can apply to university studies and simply decide what I want to do from there (uni studies is basically undecided major, you take a variety of classes as to what you're interested in).

Can anyone with interest in these subjects give me some life experience? I'm currently in AP Physics C and Calculus BC in high school, both subjects I enjoy learning about.


It sounds like your plan is solid. Go for engineering and decide if you'd rather do that or the theoretical stuff. Either way you'll want to go for grad school, in which case it's not usually required to even have the degree in what you go to grad school for.

i.e. you can have a degree in math and then go on to a physics doctorate program as long as you've had a few physics classes and enough experience you convince the admissions committee that you know what you're getting in to. But I guess that depends on the specific programs you're interested in applying to.

Your general physics class will require college calculus, so either try to pass the AP calc test or take it over the summer or something, unless you don't mind waiting a year to start physics. Take what I say with a grain of salt though, since I'm not the expert on engineering/math/physics stuff. I'm mostly taking things I've seen and heard and extrapolating a bit from how I see things work on my side of the sciences.


Thanks for the advice. I didn't explicitly mention it, but Calculus BC is an AP course, it's the second of two total AP Calculus courses, and I passed the first (Calculus AB) with a 5 on the AP exam, so I'm hoping to do this same thing year and remain exempt from the basic calc classes in college.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
October 06 2009 17:22 GMT
#105
This is about halfway through my 4th year of university...and I'm still not sure this is the major that I will go all the way with.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
October 06 2009 17:26 GMT
#106
It's not really a big decision. At least, a lot of the health related professional schools will take you with any major as long as you have prereqs. Grad school is kinda similar (although if you are totally switching from like Literature to Comp Sci I would probably expect some trouble doing well). I am not sure about any other jobs though.

I would say just go with something you enjoy AND can see yourself doing after. Even if you enjoy something you may not want to do that as a job.

I personally just kinda chose mine in high school and stuck with it because I enjoyed science (biochemistry). If I found something better I would've changed in a heartbeat.
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Kratisto
Profile Joined June 2008
United States199 Posts
October 06 2009 18:05 GMT
#107
When I applied for college, or a little after, actually. I put down "Engineering Undecided" on the application, and since the first two semesters are identical (as far as I know) for all Engineers, it gave me a full year to decide. I applied for Biomedical Engineering in the end and should graduate in a year (plus or minus a semester, as is expected with engineering =\).

The key, I think, is to do something that you're interested in and which you feel good about. I have friends who went into this major or that because they were expected to, or for the money, or whatever. They ended up floundering around and now they'll graduate after me (if I don't fuck up). There's a saying, "Do something you love and you'll never work another day in your life."
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 06 2009 18:27 GMT
#108
I decided in the 2nd semester of first year to go into electrical engineering (will graduate spring 2010 and head to graduate school), but my school has a required general engineering program that I was in for the first 2 semesters that everybody has to go through before they decide on their actual engineering program.


I would suggest going to your school's counseling/career services/etc. department and schedule an appointment to talk about things. Also, walk around a university (maybe schedule some appointments with professors beforehand) and start asking people what they do, why they like it, what the work is like, etc. Target looking at the majors you might be interested in. Maybe try to sit in a couple classes to see what they are like. You also might want to take one of those pseudo-MBTI online quizzes to get your personality type. Of course, personal interest and aptitude in a topic are important, but some personality types are really not suited for some majors (and more suited for others).
Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
October 06 2009 18:51 GMT
#109
i figured that my life goal is to start a private boarding school for poor but hella smart impoverished people.

found out to my surprise that there is no major for starting private boarding schools.

decided on a proxy via medicine ala cognitive therapy psychiatry. all in all, took me 3 extra years. i'll have a pilot study of the private school running while I attend med school.
can't making a relationship last longer than 2 weeks, since 1984 :thumbs:
Grimatoma2
Profile Joined June 2009
United States68 Posts
October 06 2009 18:56 GMT
#110
lols theres really no time you need to decide on a set major, im in my second year of college and will be changing my major today from Biology to Medical informatics

aka college of science to cs
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 06 2009 19:04 GMT
#111
I was planning on majoring in psychology, but at the last second switched to philosophy purely because I was more interested in it.

Psychology has more job options I think, but after thinking about it, there's not as much interesting about it for me, and it's a saturated department in terms of number of students doing it.

I absolutely love my major.
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Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
October 06 2009 19:07 GMT
#112
I am a sophomore and I'm about to switch from biomedical engineering to biology. (Have only taken two engineering classes lol)
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
October 06 2009 19:58 GMT
#113
I am not sure completely the english equivelant

I chose maths when i was about 16. I wanted to do something like maths since i was 12.
Now i do maths and im 19. And its more maths, and maths and maths all the way

All other mathematical subjects are just maths for pussies
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
October 06 2009 20:11 GMT
#114
Too fucking late is the answer to mine..
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ocho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States172 Posts
October 06 2009 20:40 GMT
#115
I chose petroleum engineering in order to maximize my income coming out of school.
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
October 06 2009 20:45 GMT
#116
On October 07 2009 04:04 PH wrote:
I was planning on majoring in psychology, but at the last second switched to philosophy purely because I was more interested in it.

Psychology has more job options I think, but after thinking about it, there's not as much interesting about it for me, and it's a saturated department in terms of number of students doing it.

I absolutely love my major.


I would actually say that psychology degree has absolutely no job oppurtunities unless you pursue a masters and then a PhD.
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KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-06 23:14:32
October 06 2009 23:13 GMT
#117
I declared my major as math at the end of my sophomore year.
Seriously though about majoring in philosophy for a bit, but changed my mind. I think that's a good choice in hindsight.

A lot of courses interests me - anthropology, philosophy, sociology, history - but with regards to job prospects I "chickened out" and took the easy way out so I majored in math.

With a math major and some working experience, I had no problem landing a position in the purchasing department of a cosmetic company.

For those of you interested in what happened afterwards - I hated my 9-5 job and left the job. Went and got my M.A. in math education and started teaching math in high school.
Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
October 07 2009 00:01 GMT
#118
On October 07 2009 04:04 PH wrote:
I was planning on majoring in psychology, but at the last second switched to philosophy purely because I was more interested in it.

Psychology has more job options I think, but after thinking about it, there's not as much interesting about it for me, and it's a saturated department in terms of number of students doing it.

I absolutely love my major.


I've always thought that philosophy would make a great degree for anyone going on into a field where your undergrad doesn't matter so much (any health profession, law, etc). We need more people who are good at thinking instead of just regurgitating.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
October 07 2009 00:07 GMT
#119
my parents dictated my major.
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Rakanishu2
Profile Joined May 2009
United States475 Posts
October 07 2009 00:10 GMT
#120
Keep in mind your major doesnt decide your job entirely.

I was a geography major and now I'm a financial consultant.

Study what you like!
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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
October 07 2009 00:15 GMT
#121
In first year I chose as many different classes as possible, within the limits of BA, and decided at the end of the year to major in east asian studies. I might have chosen history but the only history I find interesting enough is east asian history lol
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Igakusei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States610 Posts
October 07 2009 00:19 GMT
#122
On October 07 2009 09:07 YPang wrote:
my parents dictated my major.


Is that fairly normal for families from your culture? If so, do most people in your shoes just go along with it even if it's something they hate? I have a really hard time understanding this, since I'm so fiercely independent.

I feel very, very sorry for all the people who are pushed into being doctors by their parents because for the most part, doing medicine really sucks ass as a career if you're not into it.
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
October 07 2009 00:21 GMT
#123
On October 07 2009 09:10 Rakanishu2 wrote:
Keep in mind your major doesnt decide your job entirely.

I was a geography major and now I'm a financial consultant.

Study what you like!


Definitely, I made the mistake of doing a major that I was doomed to fail at Due to laziness and weak mathematics skill
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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
October 07 2009 01:12 GMT
#124
On October 07 2009 09:19 Neverborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2009 09:07 YPang wrote:
my parents dictated my major.


Is that fairly normal for families from your culture? If so, do most people in your shoes just go along with it even if it's something they hate? I have a really hard time understanding this, since I'm so fiercely independent.

I feel very, very sorry for all the people who are pushed into being doctors by their parents because for the most part, doing medicine really sucks ass as a career if you're not into it.


I feel as if i'm a very independent individual as well, but my asian parent's culture is if i dont listen to them or pick a job that THEY think "is hard to find a career or unstable" they think im immature and disobedient. But im not pushed in to medical school, they chose pharmacy for me instead. I'm not really against it considering i'm a senior in HS and dont kno what its like yet.
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gunsharp
Profile Joined November 2007
260 Posts
October 07 2009 01:20 GMT
#125
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/ooh.t01.htm

http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocotjt1.htm

Choose one that you don't hate and then make sure it pays as much as you want.
thestool91
Profile Joined August 2007
672 Posts
October 07 2009 01:34 GMT
#126
im taking commerce right now, and its awesome. u get to learn from highly educated teachers and you get to specifically learn subjects from a variety of sources (if that even makes any sense) also it gives you a lot of job opportunities.
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Underwhelmed
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States207 Posts
October 07 2009 09:38 GMT
#127
I applied for Mechanical Engineering in the beginning because transferring into it is hellishly difficult, while getting out is easy. I knew I wanted to do some math/science type thing and actually produce something cool, and Mechanical Engineering is a pretty general field, so I figured I'd go for that then figure out what I'd do after graduation. Other areas do interest me as well, but let's face it, I have a lot more opportunities with an Engineering degree than with, say, History or Economics or Philosophy.
imweakless
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
757 Posts
October 07 2009 11:29 GMT
#128
at first i get engineering cause i think its cool but after 2 years i got tired and fuck my studies so i decided to change my course...after that i take CS cause some of my close friends transfer their but now it sucks cause i dont like anymore...but the real problem is my parents are always asking me when will i graduate! i think u should consider talking ur major if you really love or you'll be doomed!
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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
October 07 2009 11:52 GMT
#129
On October 07 2009 09:19 Neverborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2009 09:07 YPang wrote:
my parents dictated my major.


Is that fairly normal for families from your culture? If so, do most people in your shoes just go along with it even if it's something they hate? I have a really hard time understanding this, since I'm so fiercely independent.

I feel very, very sorry for all the people who are pushed into being doctors by their parents because for the most part, doing medicine really sucks ass as a career if you're not into it.

ohhsadhgsid god reading this gave me chills of horror. i've been a dropout for basically a year now because of a similar situation, and it's just the most absurd, fucked up thing to have to deal with. i'll probably finish a degree in something still related since i only have a few classes left, but being forced into a major i hated made college one of the worst times of my life.

to the op, choose something you honestly like. this is not some inspirational oh my god follow your heart statement, it's more that it's the only reasonable thing to do if you have any self-respect. there are more than enough good posts explaining why in this thread, please trust them.
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DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
October 07 2009 12:05 GMT
#130
CS. Guess I'm not alone on TL picking that. I just decided to pick something that interested me. If you study something you aren't interested in then you won't learn anything and you won't like the jobs you get later either. At least that's how it works for me. If I had to make a list ranking what you should consider before choosing your major it would go something like this:

1. How interested are you in the subject?

2. How much would you enjoy working with the kind of job that that subject would lead you to?

3. How hard is it to get a job in that field after getting your degree?

4. How are the people studying/working in that field in general. Would you get along with them?

5. Income and other less important stuff.
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
October 07 2009 14:18 GMT
#131
On October 06 2009 06:39 illu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2009 21:39 HeaDStrong wrote:
On October 05 2009 21:22 illu wrote:
A lot of people I know in mathematics started in some other department... only to realize later that mathematics is the easiest subject of all.


i have noticed this too.
maths in first years is easy- take this algorithm and apply- problem solved. but damn these ppl will be disappointed after a short period of time when they'll have to think for themselves. (again im talking about ppl who chose maths just because it's the easiest)


Well, it's still the easiest. All you need to do is to think, that's it, and other people judge you solely on how well your logic is. There is no problem with labs going unexpectedly or people having biased opinions about it.


Personally, I find math classes to be pretty easy, especially in comparison with similar level physics classes, at least in terms of the amount of work I have to put into them to get an A.

But I think it's just plan not true that math is the easiest subject. I can take random 300 and 400 level psychology courses and get As, but if you took some random psych major who has taken linear algebra and 3 semesters of calculus and put them in a first semester analysis class, they would, more likely than not, struggle massively just trying to understand the definition of continuity.

Similarly, algebra requires very little knowledge of math outside of arithmetic and some discrete math ideas, but if you take a random person who knows those things and isn't a math major, they're probably going to struggle in a first semester algebra course. Especially once you get to quotients.

I guess if all you take is applied math courses you could get away with never having to come up with an original or creative idea and getting an A, but even that's a stretch.
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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-07 15:35:03
October 07 2009 15:10 GMT
#132
I'm just a freshman in college who's undecided now. I might consider doing a language major but I have no idea what future career opportunities would come from it besides teaching it. Can someone enlighten me? x_x
powerbygood
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States54 Posts
October 07 2009 20:49 GMT
#133
does any1 here have experiences with transfering from a jr college to a uni?
FusionCutter
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada974 Posts
October 08 2009 00:01 GMT
#134
Starcraft breeds engineers.
duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
October 08 2009 01:17 GMT
#135
On October 07 2009 09:19 Neverborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2009 09:07 YPang wrote:
my parents dictated my major.


Is that fairly normal for families from your culture? If so, do most people in your shoes just go along with it even if it's something they hate? I have a really hard time understanding this, since I'm so fiercely independent.

I feel very, very sorry for all the people who are pushed into being doctors by their parents because for the most part, doing medicine really sucks ass as a career if you're not into it.


I don't understand the "fiercely independent" attitude. How did you decide what career you liked? Was it a scheme hatched in the deep recesses of your fourteen or eighteen or twenty year old mind, a passion you felt you had felt at one point or another and proceeded with because you valued the "independence" of your decision making, the glorious rooting of your life in the frame of your self? Did you ever stop to think that your self, your independent decisions, are probably just a misdirected and uncoordinated concoction of your parents' values, your violent and disagreeable (read: American) reactions to your parents' values, and the values of friends and neighbors and socialization that have been bestowed upon you largely by random chance? Are you pretentious enough to believe that at the kernel of your person you are anything but some arbitrary combination of a million commonplace and not at all valuable elements? Did you ever reconcile this germ of passion hatched from arbitrariness with the realities of the world; how much did they sync up and how much did you find you could trust to lead you to a shade of success, in whatever way you end up defining it?
Don't you think that by rectifying your dreams across the ideas and hopes your parents have for you, the values they have come by through their own struggle through life and want you to value as well, you would be a more internally consistent and sensible person?
Don't you think that by subordinating your bastard value system, the frankenstein product of an often fucked up society, to one valued by your elders, you might bring a little bit of happiness into the world through them?
Well even if you don't think that way, a lot of Asian people do, and there's a lot of value in this culture.

I think some Joseph Heller is called for.
"My daughter is not obscene, but her speech is dirty now when she talks to her friends and growing dirty also when she talks to us. (I talk dirty too.) She is trying to establish some position with us or provoke some reaction, but my wife and I don't know what or why. She wants to become a part too, I guess, of what she sees is her environment, and she is, I fear, already merging with, dissolving into, her surroundings right before my eyes. She wants to be like other people her age. I cannot stop her; I cannot save her. Something happened to her, too, although I don't know what or when. She is not yet sixteen, and I think she is already lost. Her uniqueness is fading. As a child, she seemed to us to be so different from all other children. She does not seem so different anymore.
Who is she?"
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
October 08 2009 01:44 GMT
#136
I chose my major when I Was applying for colleges
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
October 08 2009 01:47 GMT
#137
aha 4th semster I think.
I was doing bio but I hated it now i'm CS/Math
woot!

Just explore a bit. You know you are in the right major if you are taking an upper division class and feel you can do better than anyone else in that class
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
October 08 2009 03:31 GMT
#138
I chose after my first year. Chose math/econ, love the mathematics part of it, even if I'm not that good at it. But I'm confident that something'll point me in the right direction. Most important thing imo is to keep your eyes open and try out as many different things that interest you that you can.
Igakusei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States610 Posts
October 08 2009 14:06 GMT
#139
On October 08 2009 10:17 duckett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2009 09:19 Neverborn wrote:
On October 07 2009 09:07 YPang wrote:
my parents dictated my major.


Is that fairly normal for families from your culture? If so, do most people in your shoes just go along with it even if it's something they hate? I have a really hard time understanding this, since I'm so fiercely independent.

I feel very, very sorry for all the people who are pushed into being doctors by their parents because for the most part, doing medicine really sucks ass as a career if you're not into it.


I don't understand the "fiercely independent" attitude. How did you decide what career you liked? Was it a scheme hatched in the deep recesses of your fourteen or eighteen or twenty year old mind, a passion you felt you had felt at one point or another and proceeded with because you valued the "independence" of your decision making, the glorious rooting of your life in the frame of your self? Did you ever stop to think that your self, your independent decisions, are probably just a misdirected and uncoordinated concoction of your parents' values, your violent and disagreeable (read: American) reactions to your parents' values, and the values of friends and neighbors and socialization that have been bestowed upon you largely by random chance? Are you pretentious enough to believe that at the kernel of your person you are anything but some arbitrary combination of a million commonplace and not at all valuable elements? Did you ever reconcile this germ of passion hatched from arbitrariness with the realities of the world; how much did they sync up and how much did you find you could trust to lead you to a shade of success, in whatever way you end up defining it?
Don't you think that by rectifying your dreams across the ideas and hopes your parents have for you, the values they have come by through their own struggle through life and want you to value as well, you would be a more internally consistent and sensible person?
Don't you think that by subordinating your bastard value system, the frankenstein product of an often fucked up society, to one valued by your elders, you might bring a little bit of happiness into the world through them?
Well even if you don't think that way, a lot of Asian people do, and there's a lot of value in this culture.

I think some Joseph Heller is called for.
"My daughter is not obscene, but her speech is dirty now when she talks to her friends and growing dirty also when she talks to us. (I talk dirty too.) She is trying to establish some position with us or provoke some reaction, but my wife and I don't know what or why. She wants to become a part too, I guess, of what she sees is her environment, and she is, I fear, already merging with, dissolving into, her surroundings right before my eyes. She wants to be like other people her age. I cannot stop her; I cannot save her. Something happened to her, too, although I don't know what or when. She is not yet sixteen, and I think she is already lost. Her uniqueness is fading. As a child, she seemed to us to be so different from all other children. She does not seem so different anymore.
Who is she?"


Are money and a prestigious career what matter most in life? Do you really think that just because someone doesn't want to follow his parent's career path that he isn't going to do something useful with his life? I got my values and morals from my parents, but I didn't necessarily get my interests from them.

You seem to have this really one dimensional view that there's medicine/dentistry/business/insert other perfect career here/ and that every kid who "rebels" against that plan just wants to smoke pot and party until they get fat and stupid.

I think that's actually relatively rare. Kids from educated backgrounds tend to get educations, whether their parents push them or not.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 09 2009 02:29 GMT
#140
Look, whatever you do, you have to realize there will be bumps in the road, there are people who suck at what they do but still enjoy it (read: a lot of doctors), you are going to run into people/courses/jobs/etc. that will frustrate, annoy, take a general shit on you, it's going to happen regardless of whatever major, course of life, job you take. My advice to anyone is to ask people who are in the field and get their experiences. You'd be surprised how many people wanted to quit studying their eventual fields of study.
Get it by your hands...
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
October 09 2009 02:37 GMT
#141
Are money and a prestigious career what matter most in life?
Yes.
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