On September 02 2009 09:02 CharlieMurphy wrote: in texas the laws are crazy. There was a guy who saw his neighbors being robbed and went after the kids with a shotgun down the street as they escaped. Can't remember what the outcome was but in texas you can kill people in your house and get away with it.
Here in Texas, pretty close to where I live (about 15 minutes), a man (Joe Horn was his name I think) saw his neighbors house being robbed, he called 911, and was with them for a couple of minutes, eventually he got his shotgun out and told the dispatch he was gonna shoot them, obviously 911 told him to calm down and stay in his home, he saw the guys running out of his neighbors house, ran ouside and shot them both. And the cops were right around the corner. The guy got off clean with nothing, but it sparked massive debates over laws here in texas.
Oo found the 911 call .. you can hear everything, from the loading of the gun to the shooting.
This may have been the story you were talking about.
Another crazy thing happened here in Texas, some teenage kids tried to rob a dude delivering ice cream and other snacks to a gas station, and one of them was shot and killed, and I dont think the guy got in any trouble.
On September 02 2009 12:46 REDBLUEGREEN wrote: I'm happy i lived my teenage years in germany and not in the USA. All you psycho cowboys in this thread would have probably killed me 5 times while I was in some other people's gardens at night playing a prank....
Cowboys? o.O do not confuse Texas with the US as a whole.
On September 02 2009 08:01 theron[wdt] wrote: nothing says "GTFO" or "stay away from my family" like a 12 gauge.
and i quote "I prayed that the police to show up but nobody answered."
id hate to be a person who lives in fear of being murdered when they go to sleep
if you buy a fuckin shotgun for self-defense purposes you are loony.
I know my Criminal Justice teacher owns a pump-action for "self-defence". The sound of the CHCK CHCK is probably enough to make somebody run the fuck out if they aren't prepared to fight, no need to fire it. If it comes down to it, though, he is probably the kind of person to still shoot if needed = ]
I think your statement is pretty wrong, in the fact that a shotgun is pretty good on a purely psychological level.
I'm not saying the sound of a shotgun wouldn't scare people away, I'm saying that the fact that you feel the need to own a firearm to feel safe in your own house is laughable. I mean, if people are getting murdered in your neighborhood on a monthly basis then perhaps there's a bigger problem at hand, but assuming you live in a relatively OK neighborhood, owning a shotgun is ridiculous.
I find it funny that people worry so much about bullshit that never happens that they spend money on things like firearms. Buy a fucking dog, they detect everything, wake you up, and alert the burglar that "oh these people know I'm trying to get in." -- they also make great companions for you and your family.
of course, most petty thieves look for houses that have no signs of people being home, and even then a dog may scare them away.
but you guys are thinking of situations where someone busts into your house with the intent of ripping you to shreds and raping your daughters, where a dog wouldn't be much help.
in which case I'd recommend (if you are so worried), that you send your kids to school equipped with kevlar vests and guns in their backpacks, because a gunman might open fire in their classroom.
that's my view on this, and I'm assuming you don't live in a fucking warzone of a neighborhood, and if you do -- i don't have the right to judge you. but other than that, if you live in the typical area, then you must be a pussy to think you need a gun by your side when you sleep.
My dad bought a gun when my parents were dating, and my mom was being stalked by one of her ex-boyfriends and felt very threatened, even at home. Their house was very shitty, and although living in a quiet place, there was not much force needed to get inside.
Does it seem unreasonable here? Just wondering your opinion, not trying to fight back or anything.
If the threat was real enough to consider buying a firearm, I'd have to ask you if they called the police first and got this sorted out with a restraining order or something similar.
On September 02 2009 08:01 theron[wdt] wrote: nothing says "GTFO" or "stay away from my family" like a 12 gauge.
and i quote "I prayed that the police to show up but nobody answered."
id hate to be a person who lives in fear of being murdered when they go to sleep
if you buy a fuckin shotgun for self-defense purposes you are loony.
I know my Criminal Justice teacher owns a pump-action for "self-defence". The sound of the CHCK CHCK is probably enough to make somebody run the fuck out if they aren't prepared to fight, no need to fire it. If it comes down to it, though, he is probably the kind of person to still shoot if needed = ]
I think your statement is pretty wrong, in the fact that a shotgun is pretty good on a purely psychological level.
I'm not saying the sound of a shotgun wouldn't scare people away, I'm saying that the fact that you feel the need to own a firearm to feel safe in your own house is laughable. I mean, if people are getting murdered in your neighborhood on a monthly basis then perhaps there's a bigger problem at hand, but assuming you live in a relatively OK neighborhood, owning a shotgun is ridiculous.
I find it funny that people worry so much about bullshit that never happens that they spend money on things like firearms. Buy a fucking dog, they detect everything, wake you up, and alert the burglar that "oh these people know I'm trying to get in." -- they also make great companions for you and your family.
of course, most petty thieves look for houses that have no signs of people being home, and even then a dog may scare them away.
but you guys are thinking of situations where someone busts into your house with the intent of ripping you to shreds and raping your daughters, where a dog wouldn't be much help.
in which case I'd recommend (if you are so worried), that you send your kids to school equipped with kevlar vests and guns in their backpacks, because a gunman might open fire in their classroom.
that's my view on this, and I'm assuming you don't live in a fucking warzone of a neighborhood, and if you do -- i don't have the right to judge you. but other than that, if you live in the typical area, then you must be a pussy to think you need a gun by your side when you sleep.
My dad bought a gun when my parents were dating, and my mom was being stalked by one of her ex-boyfriends and felt very threatened, even at home. Their house was very shitty, and although living in a quiet place, there was not much force needed to get inside.
Does it seem unreasonable here? Just wondering your opinion, not trying to fight back or anything.
If the threat was real enough to consider buying a firearm, I'd have to ask you if they called the police first and got this sorted out with a restraining order or something similar.
Don't know that, but if I had to assume, I'd say not. So continue on assuming that they did not.
On September 02 2009 08:01 theron[wdt] wrote: nothing says "GTFO" or "stay away from my family" like a 12 gauge.
and i quote "I prayed that the police to show up but nobody answered."
id hate to be a person who lives in fear of being murdered when they go to sleep
if you buy a fuckin shotgun for self-defense purposes you are loony.
I know my Criminal Justice teacher owns a pump-action for "self-defence". The sound of the CHCK CHCK is probably enough to make somebody run the fuck out if they aren't prepared to fight, no need to fire it. If it comes down to it, though, he is probably the kind of person to still shoot if needed = ]
I think your statement is pretty wrong, in the fact that a shotgun is pretty good on a purely psychological level.
I'm not saying the sound of a shotgun wouldn't scare people away, I'm saying that the fact that you feel the need to own a firearm to feel safe in your own house is laughable. I mean, if people are getting murdered in your neighborhood on a monthly basis then perhaps there's a bigger problem at hand, but assuming you live in a relatively OK neighborhood, owning a shotgun is ridiculous.
I find it funny that people worry so much about bullshit that never happens that they spend money on things like firearms. Buy a fucking dog, they detect everything, wake you up, and alert the burglar that "oh these people know I'm trying to get in." -- they also make great companions for you and your family.
of course, most petty thieves look for houses that have no signs of people being home, and even then a dog may scare them away.
but you guys are thinking of situations where someone busts into your house with the intent of ripping you to shreds and raping your daughters, where a dog wouldn't be much help.
in which case I'd recommend (if you are so worried), that you send your kids to school equipped with kevlar vests and guns in their backpacks, because a gunman might open fire in their classroom.
that's my view on this, and I'm assuming you don't live in a fucking warzone of a neighborhood, and if you do -- i don't have the right to judge you. but other than that, if you live in the typical area, then you must be a pussy to think you need a gun by your side when you sleep.
My dad bought a gun when my parents were dating, and my mom was being stalked by one of her ex-boyfriends and felt very threatened, even at home. Their house was very shitty, and although living in a quiet place, there was not much force needed to get inside.
Does it seem unreasonable here? Just wondering your opinion, not trying to fight back or anything.
If the threat was real enough to consider buying a firearm, I'd have to ask you if they called the police first and got this sorted out with a restraining order or something similar.
Don't know that, but if I had to assume, I'd say not. So continue on assuming that they did not.
I'm pretty sure the cheapest guns cost a couple hundred dollars, so a restraining order seems more worthwhile. Plus if you own the gun, you should spend the time practicing at a shooting range, which is even more time and money.
On September 02 2009 08:01 theron[wdt] wrote: nothing says "GTFO" or "stay away from my family" like a 12 gauge.
and i quote "I prayed that the police to show up but nobody answered."
id hate to be a person who lives in fear of being murdered when they go to sleep
if you buy a fuckin shotgun for self-defense purposes you are loony.
I know my Criminal Justice teacher owns a pump-action for "self-defence". The sound of the CHCK CHCK is probably enough to make somebody run the fuck out if they aren't prepared to fight, no need to fire it. If it comes down to it, though, he is probably the kind of person to still shoot if needed = ]
I think your statement is pretty wrong, in the fact that a shotgun is pretty good on a purely psychological level.
I'm not saying the sound of a shotgun wouldn't scare people away, I'm saying that the fact that you feel the need to own a firearm to feel safe in your own house is laughable. I mean, if people are getting murdered in your neighborhood on a monthly basis then perhaps there's a bigger problem at hand, but assuming you live in a relatively OK neighborhood, owning a shotgun is ridiculous.
I find it funny that people worry so much about bullshit that never happens that they spend money on things like firearms. Buy a fucking dog, they detect everything, wake you up, and alert the burglar that "oh these people know I'm trying to get in." -- they also make great companions for you and your family.
of course, most petty thieves look for houses that have no signs of people being home, and even then a dog may scare them away.
but you guys are thinking of situations where someone busts into your house with the intent of ripping you to shreds and raping your daughters, where a dog wouldn't be much help.
in which case I'd recommend (if you are so worried), that you send your kids to school equipped with kevlar vests and guns in their backpacks, because a gunman might open fire in their classroom.
that's my view on this, and I'm assuming you don't live in a fucking warzone of a neighborhood, and if you do -- i don't have the right to judge you. but other than that, if you live in the typical area, then you must be a pussy to think you need a gun by your side when you sleep.
My dad bought a gun when my parents were dating, and my mom was being stalked by one of her ex-boyfriends and felt very threatened, even at home. Their house was very shitty, and although living in a quiet place, there was not much force needed to get inside.
Does it seem unreasonable here? Just wondering your opinion, not trying to fight back or anything.
If the threat was real enough to consider buying a firearm, I'd have to ask you if they called the police first and got this sorted out with a restraining order or something similar.
Don't know that, but if I had to assume, I'd say not. So continue on assuming that they did not.
I'm pretty sure the cheapest guns cost a couple hundred dollars, so a restraining order seems more worthwhile. Plus if you own the gun, you should spend the time practicing at a shooting range, which is even more time and money.
Well, my dad is in the Army and knows how to use the hand-cannon.
On September 02 2009 08:01 theron[wdt] wrote: nothing says "GTFO" or "stay away from my family" like a 12 gauge.
and i quote "I prayed that the police to show up but nobody answered."
id hate to be a person who lives in fear of being murdered when they go to sleep
if you buy a fuckin shotgun for self-defense purposes you are loony.
I know my Criminal Justice teacher owns a pump-action for "self-defence". The sound of the CHCK CHCK is probably enough to make somebody run the fuck out if they aren't prepared to fight, no need to fire it. If it comes down to it, though, he is probably the kind of person to still shoot if needed = ]
I think your statement is pretty wrong, in the fact that a shotgun is pretty good on a purely psychological level.
I'm not saying the sound of a shotgun wouldn't scare people away, I'm saying that the fact that you feel the need to own a firearm to feel safe in your own house is laughable. I mean, if people are getting murdered in your neighborhood on a monthly basis then perhaps there's a bigger problem at hand, but assuming you live in a relatively OK neighborhood, owning a shotgun is ridiculous.
I find it funny that people worry so much about bullshit that never happens that they spend money on things like firearms. Buy a fucking dog, they detect everything, wake you up, and alert the burglar that "oh these people know I'm trying to get in." -- they also make great companions for you and your family.
of course, most petty thieves look for houses that have no signs of people being home, and even then a dog may scare them away.
but you guys are thinking of situations where someone busts into your house with the intent of ripping you to shreds and raping your daughters, where a dog wouldn't be much help.
in which case I'd recommend (if you are so worried), that you send your kids to school equipped with kevlar vests and guns in their backpacks, because a gunman might open fire in their classroom.
that's my view on this, and I'm assuming you don't live in a fucking warzone of a neighborhood, and if you do -- i don't have the right to judge you. but other than that, if you live in the typical area, then you must be a pussy to think you need a gun by your side when you sleep.
My dad bought a gun when my parents were dating, and my mom was being stalked by one of her ex-boyfriends and felt very threatened, even at home. Their house was very shitty, and although living in a quiet place, there was not much force needed to get inside.
Does it seem unreasonable here? Just wondering your opinion, not trying to fight back or anything.
If the threat was real enough to consider buying a firearm, I'd have to ask you if they called the police first and got this sorted out with a restraining order or something similar.
Don't know that, but if I had to assume, I'd say not. So continue on assuming that they did not.
Then this is a result of poor decision making.
If she was being stalked to the point where she felt her life was in danger, what would you have done?
A.) Drop money on a gun to keep by your side in your house. If the man is stupid enough to cause a ruckus when he breaks in the house, you'll wake up and scare him away. If he enters the house quietly -- well you're dead, but at least you tried!
B.) This guys is truly stalking her to the point where her life is in danger? Call the cops, get this sorted out and show the guy that you mean business. He then knows that any attack against you or her will immediately put him as the prime suspect. If he is still crazy enough to come after your life(these stories are 1 in a billion), do you really think having a gun under your pillow is going to stop this man?
I hate to sound like a smartass, but any reasonable person would go with B. You are protecting her much more effectively by scaring the man away before he steps near your house. And if you are still that frightened and want that additional 0.0000001% chance for safety, you can still choose B and buy a gun.
I'm so against people who choose to keep guns because it's truly the last ditch effort against burglars.
If you choose to spend money on something that only works when you are alert and aware that a bad guy is in your house, then you would logically also have:
A house security system A dog Barred windows etc...
Now people might say, "oh but those are all so expensive" or "i dont want to take care of a dog" or "they make my house looks unfriendly" -- but ill keep a gun by me because I want to protect my family if that serial killer or rapist gets into my house and ill wake up and shoot him just like that.
if your willing to spend money on such an ineffective form of house defense because you want to protect your family -- well your putting them in more danger by not having the rest of the package that is proven to be more effective than a loaded firearm.
i understand people have firearms to make them feel safe and powerful, and how they carry the "no one messes with my family" attitude -- but it's an utterly ridiculous state of mind considering everything else.
On September 02 2009 08:01 theron[wdt] wrote: nothing says "GTFO" or "stay away from my family" like a 12 gauge.
and i quote "I prayed that the police to show up but nobody answered."
id hate to be a person who lives in fear of being murdered when they go to sleep
if you buy a fuckin shotgun for self-defense purposes you are loony.
I know my Criminal Justice teacher owns a pump-action for "self-defence". The sound of the CHCK CHCK is probably enough to make somebody run the fuck out if they aren't prepared to fight, no need to fire it. If it comes down to it, though, he is probably the kind of person to still shoot if needed = ]
I think your statement is pretty wrong, in the fact that a shotgun is pretty good on a purely psychological level.
I'm not saying the sound of a shotgun wouldn't scare people away, I'm saying that the fact that you feel the need to own a firearm to feel safe in your own house is laughable. I mean, if people are getting murdered in your neighborhood on a monthly basis then perhaps there's a bigger problem at hand, but assuming you live in a relatively OK neighborhood, owning a shotgun is ridiculous.
I find it funny that people worry so much about bullshit that never happens that they spend money on things like firearms. Buy a fucking dog, they detect everything, wake you up, and alert the burglar that "oh these people know I'm trying to get in." -- they also make great companions for you and your family.
of course, most petty thieves look for houses that have no signs of people being home, and even then a dog may scare them away.
but you guys are thinking of situations where someone busts into your house with the intent of ripping you to shreds and raping your daughters, where a dog wouldn't be much help.
in which case I'd recommend (if you are so worried), that you send your kids to school equipped with kevlar vests and guns in their backpacks, because a gunman might open fire in their classroom.
that's my view on this, and I'm assuming you don't live in a fucking warzone of a neighborhood, and if you do -- i don't have the right to judge you. but other than that, if you live in the typical area, then you must be a pussy to think you need a gun by your side when you sleep.
My dad bought a gun when my parents were dating, and my mom was being stalked by one of her ex-boyfriends and felt very threatened, even at home. Their house was very shitty, and although living in a quiet place, there was not much force needed to get inside.
Does it seem unreasonable here? Just wondering your opinion, not trying to fight back or anything.
If the threat was real enough to consider buying a firearm, I'd have to ask you if they called the police first and got this sorted out with a restraining order or something similar.
Don't know that, but if I had to assume, I'd say not. So continue on assuming that they did not.
I'm pretty sure the cheapest guns cost a couple hundred dollars, so a restraining order seems more worthwhile. Plus if you own the gun, you should spend the time practicing at a shooting range, which is even more time and money.
Well, my dad is in the Army and knows how to use the hand-cannon.
But isn't the problem when your mom's alone, not when your dad's there? When your dad's there, the stalker has to get past his combat skills.
On September 02 2009 08:01 theron[wdt] wrote: nothing says "GTFO" or "stay away from my family" like a 12 gauge.
and i quote "I prayed that the police to show up but nobody answered."
id hate to be a person who lives in fear of being murdered when they go to sleep
if you buy a fuckin shotgun for self-defense purposes you are loony.
I know my Criminal Justice teacher owns a pump-action for "self-defence". The sound of the CHCK CHCK is probably enough to make somebody run the fuck out if they aren't prepared to fight, no need to fire it. If it comes down to it, though, he is probably the kind of person to still shoot if needed = ]
I think your statement is pretty wrong, in the fact that a shotgun is pretty good on a purely psychological level.
I'm not saying the sound of a shotgun wouldn't scare people away, I'm saying that the fact that you feel the need to own a firearm to feel safe in your own house is laughable. I mean, if people are getting murdered in your neighborhood on a monthly basis then perhaps there's a bigger problem at hand, but assuming you live in a relatively OK neighborhood, owning a shotgun is ridiculous.
I find it funny that people worry so much about bullshit that never happens that they spend money on things like firearms. Buy a fucking dog, they detect everything, wake you up, and alert the burglar that "oh these people know I'm trying to get in." -- they also make great companions for you and your family.
of course, most petty thieves look for houses that have no signs of people being home, and even then a dog may scare them away.
but you guys are thinking of situations where someone busts into your house with the intent of ripping you to shreds and raping your daughters, where a dog wouldn't be much help.
in which case I'd recommend (if you are so worried), that you send your kids to school equipped with kevlar vests and guns in their backpacks, because a gunman might open fire in their classroom.
that's my view on this, and I'm assuming you don't live in a fucking warzone of a neighborhood, and if you do -- i don't have the right to judge you. but other than that, if you live in the typical area, then you must be a pussy to think you need a gun by your side when you sleep.
My dad bought a gun when my parents were dating, and my mom was being stalked by one of her ex-boyfriends and felt very threatened, even at home. Their house was very shitty, and although living in a quiet place, there was not much force needed to get inside.
Does it seem unreasonable here? Just wondering your opinion, not trying to fight back or anything.
If the threat was real enough to consider buying a firearm, I'd have to ask you if they called the police first and got this sorted out with a restraining order or something similar.
Don't know that, but if I had to assume, I'd say not. So continue on assuming that they did not.
I'm pretty sure the cheapest guns cost a couple hundred dollars, so a restraining order seems more worthwhile. Plus if you own the gun, you should spend the time practicing at a shooting range, which is even more time and money.
Andddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd if it protects your life, a couple hundred bucks is too much? Restraining orders don't stop people, unless someone is physically limited from attacking i.e. jail a law or ruling won't stop someone. Its that false sense of security we have, anyone can go anywhere and hurt someone, a law can't stop it, only provide repercussions if it does happen.
Police can readily admit, they can't get there in the blink of an eye, as I've said before, if you wanna risk it go for it, some of us purchased the insurance policy known as a gun.
Lastly, you'd be surprised how much recreational enjoyment you can gain from going to the range. Yes. you're right, if you're going to use a gun you need to be well trained in whatever system you adopt and be at expert proficiency, but again you're talking about your life, if you're penny pinching I'm kinda wondering why this is the area of all places you're thinking of doing so. Germany is a country where they can't even have violent video games and a guy is laughing at not having grown up in America, what a poor soul.
On September 02 2009 08:01 theron[wdt] wrote: nothing says "GTFO" or "stay away from my family" like a 12 gauge.
and i quote "I prayed that the police to show up but nobody answered."
id hate to be a person who lives in fear of being murdered when they go to sleep
if you buy a fuckin shotgun for self-defense purposes you are loony.
I know my Criminal Justice teacher owns a pump-action for "self-defence". The sound of the CHCK CHCK is probably enough to make somebody run the fuck out if they aren't prepared to fight, no need to fire it. If it comes down to it, though, he is probably the kind of person to still shoot if needed = ]
I think your statement is pretty wrong, in the fact that a shotgun is pretty good on a purely psychological level.
I'm not saying the sound of a shotgun wouldn't scare people away, I'm saying that the fact that you feel the need to own a firearm to feel safe in your own house is laughable. I mean, if people are getting murdered in your neighborhood on a monthly basis then perhaps there's a bigger problem at hand, but assuming you live in a relatively OK neighborhood, owning a shotgun is ridiculous.
I find it funny that people worry so much about bullshit that never happens that they spend money on things like firearms. Buy a fucking dog, they detect everything, wake you up, and alert the burglar that "oh these people know I'm trying to get in." -- they also make great companions for you and your family.
of course, most petty thieves look for houses that have no signs of people being home, and even then a dog may scare them away.
but you guys are thinking of situations where someone busts into your house with the intent of ripping you to shreds and raping your daughters, where a dog wouldn't be much help.
in which case I'd recommend (if you are so worried), that you send your kids to school equipped with kevlar vests and guns in their backpacks, because a gunman might open fire in their classroom.
that's my view on this, and I'm assuming you don't live in a fucking warzone of a neighborhood, and if you do -- i don't have the right to judge you. but other than that, if you live in the typical area, then you must be a pussy to think you need a gun by your side when you sleep.
My dad bought a gun when my parents were dating, and my mom was being stalked by one of her ex-boyfriends and felt very threatened, even at home. Their house was very shitty, and although living in a quiet place, there was not much force needed to get inside.
Does it seem unreasonable here? Just wondering your opinion, not trying to fight back or anything.
If the threat was real enough to consider buying a firearm, I'd have to ask you if they called the police first and got this sorted out with a restraining order or something similar.
Don't know that, but if I had to assume, I'd say not. So continue on assuming that they did not.
I'm pretty sure the cheapest guns cost a couple hundred dollars, so a restraining order seems more worthwhile. Plus if you own the gun, you should spend the time practicing at a shooting range, which is even more time and money.
Andddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd if it protects your life, a couple hundred bucks is too much? Restraining orders don't stop people, unless someone is physically limited from attacking i.e. jail a law or ruling won't stop someone. Its that false sense of security we have, anyone can go anywhere and hurt someone, a law can't stop it, only provide repercussions if it does happen.
Police can readily admit, they can't get there in the blink of an eye, as I've said before, if you wanna risk it go for it, some of us purchased the insurance policy known as a gun.
Lastly, you'd be surprised how much recreational enjoyment you can gain from going to the range. Yes. you're right, if you're going to use a gun you need to be well trained in whatever system you adopt and be at expert proficiency, but again you're talking about your life, if you're penny pinching I'm kinda wondering why this is the area of all places you're thinking of doing so. Germany is a country where they can't even have violent video games and a guy is laughing at not having grown up in America, what a poor soul.
Right, so if you have a gun, then you of course also have every other security measure in and around your house to protect your family.
On September 02 2009 08:01 theron[wdt] wrote: nothing says "GTFO" or "stay away from my family" like a 12 gauge.
and i quote "I prayed that the police to show up but nobody answered."
id hate to be a person who lives in fear of being murdered when they go to sleep
if you buy a fuckin shotgun for self-defense purposes you are loony.
I know my Criminal Justice teacher owns a pump-action for "self-defence". The sound of the CHCK CHCK is probably enough to make somebody run the fuck out if they aren't prepared to fight, no need to fire it. If it comes down to it, though, he is probably the kind of person to still shoot if needed = ]
I think your statement is pretty wrong, in the fact that a shotgun is pretty good on a purely psychological level.
I'm not saying the sound of a shotgun wouldn't scare people away, I'm saying that the fact that you feel the need to own a firearm to feel safe in your own house is laughable. I mean, if people are getting murdered in your neighborhood on a monthly basis then perhaps there's a bigger problem at hand, but assuming you live in a relatively OK neighborhood, owning a shotgun is ridiculous.
I find it funny that people worry so much about bullshit that never happens that they spend money on things like firearms. Buy a fucking dog, they detect everything, wake you up, and alert the burglar that "oh these people know I'm trying to get in." -- they also make great companions for you and your family.
of course, most petty thieves look for houses that have no signs of people being home, and even then a dog may scare them away.
but you guys are thinking of situations where someone busts into your house with the intent of ripping you to shreds and raping your daughters, where a dog wouldn't be much help.
in which case I'd recommend (if you are so worried), that you send your kids to school equipped with kevlar vests and guns in their backpacks, because a gunman might open fire in their classroom.
that's my view on this, and I'm assuming you don't live in a fucking warzone of a neighborhood, and if you do -- i don't have the right to judge you. but other than that, if you live in the typical area, then you must be a pussy to think you need a gun by your side when you sleep.
My dad bought a gun when my parents were dating, and my mom was being stalked by one of her ex-boyfriends and felt very threatened, even at home. Their house was very shitty, and although living in a quiet place, there was not much force needed to get inside.
Does it seem unreasonable here? Just wondering your opinion, not trying to fight back or anything.
If the threat was real enough to consider buying a firearm, I'd have to ask you if they called the police first and got this sorted out with a restraining order or something similar.
Don't know that, but if I had to assume, I'd say not. So continue on assuming that they did not.
I'm pretty sure the cheapest guns cost a couple hundred dollars, so a restraining order seems more worthwhile. Plus if you own the gun, you should spend the time practicing at a shooting range, which is even more time and money.
Andddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd if it protects your life, a couple hundred bucks is too much? Restraining orders don't stop people, unless someone is physically limited from attacking i.e. jail a law or ruling won't stop someone. Its that false sense of security we have, anyone can go anywhere and hurt someone, a law can't stop it, only provide repercussions if it does happen.
Police can readily admit, they can't get there in the blink of an eye, as I've said before, if you wanna risk it go for it, some of us purchased the insurance policy known as a gun.
Lastly, you'd be surprised how much recreational enjoyment you can gain from going to the range. Yes. you're right, if you're going to use a gun you need to be well trained in whatever system you adopt and be at expert proficiency, but again you're talking about your life, if you're penny pinching I'm kinda wondering why this is the area of all places you're thinking of doing so. Germany is a country where they can't even have violent video games and a guy is laughing at not having grown up in America, what a poor soul.
Right, so if you have a gun, then you of course also have every other security measure in and around your house to protect your family.
If you don't, I question your intelligence.
Just like a law, a buzzing security system doesn't literally stop a person. If they're intent on doing something, it won't stop them which in fact the noise will only make it more difficult to know where the perp is. So...who's questioning intelligence here?
id hate to be a person who lives in fear of being murdered when they go to sleep
if you buy a fuckin shotgun for self-defense purposes you are loony.
I know my Criminal Justice teacher owns a pump-action for "self-defence". The sound of the CHCK CHCK is probably enough to make somebody run the fuck out if they aren't prepared to fight, no need to fire it. If it comes down to it, though, he is probably the kind of person to still shoot if needed = ]
I think your statement is pretty wrong, in the fact that a shotgun is pretty good on a purely psychological level.
I'm not saying the sound of a shotgun wouldn't scare people away, I'm saying that the fact that you feel the need to own a firearm to feel safe in your own house is laughable. I mean, if people are getting murdered in your neighborhood on a monthly basis then perhaps there's a bigger problem at hand, but assuming you live in a relatively OK neighborhood, owning a shotgun is ridiculous.
I find it funny that people worry so much about bullshit that never happens that they spend money on things like firearms. Buy a fucking dog, they detect everything, wake you up, and alert the burglar that "oh these people know I'm trying to get in." -- they also make great companions for you and your family.
of course, most petty thieves look for houses that have no signs of people being home, and even then a dog may scare them away.
but you guys are thinking of situations where someone busts into your house with the intent of ripping you to shreds and raping your daughters, where a dog wouldn't be much help.
in which case I'd recommend (if you are so worried), that you send your kids to school equipped with kevlar vests and guns in their backpacks, because a gunman might open fire in their classroom.
that's my view on this, and I'm assuming you don't live in a fucking warzone of a neighborhood, and if you do -- i don't have the right to judge you. but other than that, if you live in the typical area, then you must be a pussy to think you need a gun by your side when you sleep.
My dad bought a gun when my parents were dating, and my mom was being stalked by one of her ex-boyfriends and felt very threatened, even at home. Their house was very shitty, and although living in a quiet place, there was not much force needed to get inside.
Does it seem unreasonable here? Just wondering your opinion, not trying to fight back or anything.
If the threat was real enough to consider buying a firearm, I'd have to ask you if they called the police first and got this sorted out with a restraining order or something similar.
Don't know that, but if I had to assume, I'd say not. So continue on assuming that they did not.
I'm pretty sure the cheapest guns cost a couple hundred dollars, so a restraining order seems more worthwhile. Plus if you own the gun, you should spend the time practicing at a shooting range, which is even more time and money.
Andddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd if it protects your life, a couple hundred bucks is too much? Restraining orders don't stop people, unless someone is physically limited from attacking i.e. jail a law or ruling won't stop someone. Its that false sense of security we have, anyone can go anywhere and hurt someone, a law can't stop it, only provide repercussions if it does happen.
Police can readily admit, they can't get there in the blink of an eye, as I've said before, if you wanna risk it go for it, some of us purchased the insurance policy known as a gun.
Lastly, you'd be surprised how much recreational enjoyment you can gain from going to the range. Yes. you're right, if you're going to use a gun you need to be well trained in whatever system you adopt and be at expert proficiency, but again you're talking about your life, if you're penny pinching I'm kinda wondering why this is the area of all places you're thinking of doing so. Germany is a country where they can't even have violent video games and a guy is laughing at not having grown up in America, what a poor soul.
Right, so if you have a gun, then you of course also have every other security measure in and around your house to protect your family.
If you don't, I question your intelligence.
Just like a law, a buzzing security system doesn't literally stop a person. If they're intent on doing something, it won't stop them which in fact the noise will only make it more difficult to know where the perp is. So...who's questioning intelligence here?
Oh, so the gun is for the guy that gets passed the locks, the bars, the security system, the dog, because he is after you and your family.
in which case i wouldn't question your intelligence, you are just loony.
im referring to the common thief, who (if he has the balls), will take as many things as possible as your dog is barking, as your alarms are sounding etc.. -- or will probably gtfo as fast as possible the moment he gives his presence away.
in which case i question why anyone would want to kill a petty thief who may be armed, and would retaliate if put in the situation. going after thieves is dangerous, you are protecting your family by letting him run from your alarms and dog, or taking what he wants -- you are endangering yourself and your loved ones by looking for a fight.
if you are that worried that he'll be a serial killer or a rapist, then as I said before -- i hope you send your kids to school in kevlar and with guns in their backpacks just in case a gunmen opens fire during class.
On September 02 2009 08:01 theron[wdt] wrote: nothing says "GTFO" or "stay away from my family" like a 12 gauge.
and i quote "I prayed that the police to show up but nobody answered."
id hate to be a person who lives in fear of being murdered when they go to sleep
if you buy a fuckin shotgun for self-defense purposes you are loony.
I know my Criminal Justice teacher owns a pump-action for "self-defence". The sound of the CHCK CHCK is probably enough to make somebody run the fuck out if they aren't prepared to fight, no need to fire it. If it comes down to it, though, he is probably the kind of person to still shoot if needed = ]
I think your statement is pretty wrong, in the fact that a shotgun is pretty good on a purely psychological level.
I'm not saying the sound of a shotgun wouldn't scare people away, I'm saying that the fact that you feel the need to own a firearm to feel safe in your own house is laughable. I mean, if people are getting murdered in your neighborhood on a monthly basis then perhaps there's a bigger problem at hand, but assuming you live in a relatively OK neighborhood, owning a shotgun is ridiculous.
I find it funny that people worry so much about bullshit that never happens that they spend money on things like firearms. Buy a fucking dog, they detect everything, wake you up, and alert the burglar that "oh these people know I'm trying to get in." -- they also make great companions for you and your family.
of course, most petty thieves look for houses that have no signs of people being home, and even then a dog may scare them away.
but you guys are thinking of situations where someone busts into your house with the intent of ripping you to shreds and raping your daughters, where a dog wouldn't be much help.
in which case I'd recommend (if you are so worried), that you send your kids to school equipped with kevlar vests and guns in their backpacks, because a gunman might open fire in their classroom.
that's my view on this, and I'm assuming you don't live in a fucking warzone of a neighborhood, and if you do -- i don't have the right to judge you. but other than that, if you live in the typical area, then you must be a pussy to think you need a gun by your side when you sleep.
My dad bought a gun when my parents were dating, and my mom was being stalked by one of her ex-boyfriends and felt very threatened, even at home. Their house was very shitty, and although living in a quiet place, there was not much force needed to get inside.
Does it seem unreasonable here? Just wondering your opinion, not trying to fight back or anything.
If the threat was real enough to consider buying a firearm, I'd have to ask you if they called the police first and got this sorted out with a restraining order or something similar.
Don't know that, but if I had to assume, I'd say not. So continue on assuming that they did not.
Then this is a result of poor decision making.
If she was being stalked to the point where she felt her life was in danger, what would you have done?
A.) Drop money on a gun to keep by your side in your house. If the man is stupid enough to cause a ruckus when he breaks in the house, you'll wake up and scare him away. If he enters the house quietly -- well you're dead, but at least you tried!
B.) This guys is truly stalking her to the point where her life is in danger? Call the cops, get this sorted out and show the guy that you mean business. He then knows that any attack against you or her will immediately put him as the prime suspect. If he is still crazy enough to come after your life(these stories are 1 in a billion), do you really think having a gun under your pillow is going to stop this man?
I hate to sound like a smartass, but any reasonable person would go with B. You are protecting her much more effectively by scaring the man away before he steps near your house. And if you are still that frightened and want that additional 0.0000001% chance for safety, you can still choose B and buy a gun.
I'm so against people who choose to keep guns because it's truly the last ditch effort against burglars.
If you choose to spend money on something that only works when you are alert and aware that a bad guy is in your house, then you would logically also have:
A house security system A dog Barred windows etc...
Now people might say, "oh but those are all so expensive" or "i dont want to take care of a dog" or "they make my house looks unfriendly" -- but ill keep a gun by me because I want to protect my family if that serial killer or rapist gets into my house and ill wake up and shoot him just like that.
if your willing to spend money on such an ineffective form of house defense because you want to protect your family -- well your putting them in more danger by not having the rest of the package that is proven to be more effective than a loaded firearm.
i understand people have firearms to make them feel safe and powerful, and how they carry the "no one messes with my family" attitude -- but it's an utterly ridiculous state of mind considering everything else.
sorry if i offend.
This is the greatest post so far in this thread, please everybody read it again.
On September 02 2009 12:46 REDBLUEGREEN wrote: I'm happy i lived my teenage years in germany and not in the USA. All you psycho cowboys in this thread would have probably killed me 5 times while I was in some other people's gardens at night playing a prank....
Cowboys? o.O do not confuse Texas with the US as a whole.
On September 02 2009 08:29 Valentine wrote: [quote] I know my Criminal Justice teacher owns a pump-action for "self-defence". The sound of the CHCK CHCK is probably enough to make somebody run the fuck out if they aren't prepared to fight, no need to fire it. If it comes down to it, though, he is probably the kind of person to still shoot if needed = ]
I think your statement is pretty wrong, in the fact that a shotgun is pretty good on a purely psychological level.
I'm not saying the sound of a shotgun wouldn't scare people away, I'm saying that the fact that you feel the need to own a firearm to feel safe in your own house is laughable. I mean, if people are getting murdered in your neighborhood on a monthly basis then perhaps there's a bigger problem at hand, but assuming you live in a relatively OK neighborhood, owning a shotgun is ridiculous.
I find it funny that people worry so much about bullshit that never happens that they spend money on things like firearms. Buy a fucking dog, they detect everything, wake you up, and alert the burglar that "oh these people know I'm trying to get in." -- they also make great companions for you and your family.
of course, most petty thieves look for houses that have no signs of people being home, and even then a dog may scare them away.
but you guys are thinking of situations where someone busts into your house with the intent of ripping you to shreds and raping your daughters, where a dog wouldn't be much help.
in which case I'd recommend (if you are so worried), that you send your kids to school equipped with kevlar vests and guns in their backpacks, because a gunman might open fire in their classroom.
that's my view on this, and I'm assuming you don't live in a fucking warzone of a neighborhood, and if you do -- i don't have the right to judge you. but other than that, if you live in the typical area, then you must be a pussy to think you need a gun by your side when you sleep.
My dad bought a gun when my parents were dating, and my mom was being stalked by one of her ex-boyfriends and felt very threatened, even at home. Their house was very shitty, and although living in a quiet place, there was not much force needed to get inside.
Does it seem unreasonable here? Just wondering your opinion, not trying to fight back or anything.
If the threat was real enough to consider buying a firearm, I'd have to ask you if they called the police first and got this sorted out with a restraining order or something similar.
Don't know that, but if I had to assume, I'd say not. So continue on assuming that they did not.
I'm pretty sure the cheapest guns cost a couple hundred dollars, so a restraining order seems more worthwhile. Plus if you own the gun, you should spend the time practicing at a shooting range, which is even more time and money.
Andddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd if it protects your life, a couple hundred bucks is too much? Restraining orders don't stop people, unless someone is physically limited from attacking i.e. jail a law or ruling won't stop someone. Its that false sense of security we have, anyone can go anywhere and hurt someone, a law can't stop it, only provide repercussions if it does happen.
Police can readily admit, they can't get there in the blink of an eye, as I've said before, if you wanna risk it go for it, some of us purchased the insurance policy known as a gun.
Lastly, you'd be surprised how much recreational enjoyment you can gain from going to the range. Yes. you're right, if you're going to use a gun you need to be well trained in whatever system you adopt and be at expert proficiency, but again you're talking about your life, if you're penny pinching I'm kinda wondering why this is the area of all places you're thinking of doing so. Germany is a country where they can't even have violent video games and a guy is laughing at not having grown up in America, what a poor soul.
Right, so if you have a gun, then you of course also have every other security measure in and around your house to protect your family.
If you don't, I question your intelligence.
Just like a law, a buzzing security system doesn't literally stop a person. If they're intent on doing something, it won't stop them which in fact the noise will only make it more difficult to know where the perp is. So...who's questioning intelligence here?
Oh, so the gun is for the guy that gets passed the locks, the bars, the security system, the dog, because he is after you and your family.
in which case i wouldn't question your intelligence, you are just loony.
im referring to the common thief, who (if he has the balls), will take as many things as possible as your dog is barking, as your alarms are sounding etc.. -- or will probably gtfo as fast as possible the moment he gives his presence away.
in which case i question why anyone would want to kill a petty thief who may be armed, and would retaliate if put in the situation. going after thieves is dangerous, you are protecting your family by letting him run from your alarms and dog, or taking what he wants -- you are endangering yourself and your loved ones by looking for a fight.
if you are that worried that he'll be a serial killer or a rapist, then as I said before -- i hope you send your kids to school in kevlar and with guns in their backpacks just in case a gunmen opens fire during class.
You know its crazy but shit like that does happen. Look at Sean Taylor. He was a professional football player who was alot bigger and stronger then any of us. Living in a big ass house in a nice area with a great security system. None of that stopped 4 nuts from breaking down his door and shooting him dead. Sure the security system alerted the police, but he was dead by then. Bet he wishes he had a gun and not needed it. Instead needing a gun and not having it and being well you know that 1 in a million dead guy.
In the heart of the argument, in my opinion, is that people are arming themselves because others are armed: for example, home-owners are getting guns because burglers have guns, and by having the firearm they somehow think they are safer. In reality it is fighting fire with fire, which becomes a vicious cycle that makes the nation less secure overall.
So yes, I strongly believe in an extremely tight weapon law that makes any kinds of guns and metal blades longer than 30cm illegal (unless you are a police officer or other extremely specialized personel). I believe this makes the society much safer, and law-inforcement much easier and safer.
Of course, with the given situation in North America such weapon law is nothing but fantasy.
On September 02 2009 08:01 theron[wdt] wrote: nothing says "GTFO" or "stay away from my family" like a 12 gauge.
and i quote "I prayed that the police to show up but nobody answered."
id hate to be a person who lives in fear of being murdered when they go to sleep
if you buy a fuckin shotgun for self-defense purposes you are loony.
I know my Criminal Justice teacher owns a pump-action for "self-defence". The sound of the CHCK CHCK is probably enough to make somebody run the fuck out if they aren't prepared to fight, no need to fire it. If it comes down to it, though, he is probably the kind of person to still shoot if needed = ]
I think your statement is pretty wrong, in the fact that a shotgun is pretty good on a purely psychological level.
I'm not saying the sound of a shotgun wouldn't scare people away, I'm saying that the fact that you feel the need to own a firearm to feel safe in your own house is laughable. I mean, if people are getting murdered in your neighborhood on a monthly basis then perhaps there's a bigger problem at hand, but assuming you live in a relatively OK neighborhood, owning a shotgun is ridiculous.
I find it funny that people worry so much about bullshit that never happens that they spend money on things like firearms. Buy a fucking dog, they detect everything, wake you up, and alert the burglar that "oh these people know I'm trying to get in." -- they also make great companions for you and your family.
of course, most petty thieves look for houses that have no signs of people being home, and even then a dog may scare them away.
but you guys are thinking of situations where someone busts into your house with the intent of ripping you to shreds and raping your daughters, where a dog wouldn't be much help.
in which case I'd recommend (if you are so worried), that you send your kids to school equipped with kevlar vests and guns in their backpacks, because a gunman might open fire in their classroom.
that's my view on this, and I'm assuming you don't live in a fucking warzone of a neighborhood, and if you do -- i don't have the right to judge you. but other than that, if you live in the typical area, then you must be a pussy to think you need a gun by your side when you sleep.
My dad bought a gun when my parents were dating, and my mom was being stalked by one of her ex-boyfriends and felt very threatened, even at home. Their house was very shitty, and although living in a quiet place, there was not much force needed to get inside.
Does it seem unreasonable here? Just wondering your opinion, not trying to fight back or anything.
If the threat was real enough to consider buying a firearm, I'd have to ask you if they called the police first and got this sorted out with a restraining order or something similar.
Hahahahahahah did everyone just skip over this post or what? Seriously? Did you even think before you wrote this?
So somebody who is planning on breaking into someone's house, which is a crime, in order to commit many more crimes, will be deterred by a piece of paper telling him not to do it?
I'm not saying the sound of a shotgun wouldn't scare people away, I'm saying that the fact that you feel the need to own a firearm to feel safe in your own house is laughable. I mean, if people are getting murdered in your neighborhood on a monthly basis then perhaps there's a bigger problem at hand, but assuming you live in a relatively OK neighborhood, owning a shotgun is ridiculous.
I find it funny that people worry so much about bullshit that never happens that they spend money on things like firearms. Buy a fucking dog, they detect everything, wake you up, and alert the burglar that "oh these people know I'm trying to get in." -- they also make great companions for you and your family.
of course, most petty thieves look for houses that have no signs of people being home, and even then a dog may scare them away.
but you guys are thinking of situations where someone busts into your house with the intent of ripping you to shreds and raping your daughters, where a dog wouldn't be much help.
in which case I'd recommend (if you are so worried), that you send your kids to school equipped with kevlar vests and guns in their backpacks, because a gunman might open fire in their classroom.
that's my view on this, and I'm assuming you don't live in a fucking warzone of a neighborhood, and if you do -- i don't have the right to judge you. but other than that, if you live in the typical area, then you must be a pussy to think you need a gun by your side when you sleep.
My dad bought a gun when my parents were dating, and my mom was being stalked by one of her ex-boyfriends and felt very threatened, even at home. Their house was very shitty, and although living in a quiet place, there was not much force needed to get inside.
Does it seem unreasonable here? Just wondering your opinion, not trying to fight back or anything.
If the threat was real enough to consider buying a firearm, I'd have to ask you if they called the police first and got this sorted out with a restraining order or something similar.
Don't know that, but if I had to assume, I'd say not. So continue on assuming that they did not.
I'm pretty sure the cheapest guns cost a couple hundred dollars, so a restraining order seems more worthwhile. Plus if you own the gun, you should spend the time practicing at a shooting range, which is even more time and money.
Andddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd if it protects your life, a couple hundred bucks is too much? Restraining orders don't stop people, unless someone is physically limited from attacking i.e. jail a law or ruling won't stop someone. Its that false sense of security we have, anyone can go anywhere and hurt someone, a law can't stop it, only provide repercussions if it does happen.
Police can readily admit, they can't get there in the blink of an eye, as I've said before, if you wanna risk it go for it, some of us purchased the insurance policy known as a gun.
Lastly, you'd be surprised how much recreational enjoyment you can gain from going to the range. Yes. you're right, if you're going to use a gun you need to be well trained in whatever system you adopt and be at expert proficiency, but again you're talking about your life, if you're penny pinching I'm kinda wondering why this is the area of all places you're thinking of doing so. Germany is a country where they can't even have violent video games and a guy is laughing at not having grown up in America, what a poor soul.
Right, so if you have a gun, then you of course also have every other security measure in and around your house to protect your family.
If you don't, I question your intelligence.
Just like a law, a buzzing security system doesn't literally stop a person. If they're intent on doing something, it won't stop them which in fact the noise will only make it more difficult to know where the perp is. So...who's questioning intelligence here?
Oh, so the gun is for the guy that gets passed the locks, the bars, the security system, the dog, because he is after you and your family.
in which case i wouldn't question your intelligence, you are just loony.
im referring to the common thief, who (if he has the balls), will take as many things as possible as your dog is barking, as your alarms are sounding etc.. -- or will probably gtfo as fast as possible the moment he gives his presence away.
in which case i question why anyone would want to kill a petty thief who may be armed, and would retaliate if put in the situation. going after thieves is dangerous, you are protecting your family by letting him run from your alarms and dog, or taking what he wants -- you are endangering yourself and your loved ones by looking for a fight.
if you are that worried that he'll be a serial killer or a rapist, then as I said before -- i hope you send your kids to school in kevlar and with guns in their backpacks just in case a gunmen opens fire during class.
You know its crazy but shit like that does happen. Look at Sean Taylor. He was a professional football player who was alot bigger and stronger then any of us. Living in a big ass house in a nice area with a great security system. None of that stopped 4 nuts from breaking down his door and shooting him dead. Sure the security system alerted the police, but he was dead by then. Bet he wishes he had a gun and not needed it. Instead needing a gun and not having it and being well you know that 1 in a million dead guy.
You're right, they do happen. People got shot up at my school (Norther Illinois University) during a typical classroom lecture -- crazy shit happens.
All I'm saying is, running your life around the possibilities of crazy shit happening is a stupid and costly way to live. If you want to drop a few hundred on a gun for that 0.000001% chance of that rapist busting through your window, go for it -- but if you don't have the full security system first, then what the hell is the point?
I can find news stories about crazy shit easily -- that's why it made the news isn't it? Because it almost never happens. And then people read about these stories and get scared, buy a gun, and they don't even have a security system or a even a dog? 0_o
Then they come on here and preach about protecting their families.
On September 02 2009 08:01 theron[wdt] wrote: nothing says "GTFO" or "stay away from my family" like a 12 gauge.
and i quote "I prayed that the police to show up but nobody answered."
id hate to be a person who lives in fear of being murdered when they go to sleep
if you buy a fuckin shotgun for self-defense purposes you are loony.
I know my Criminal Justice teacher owns a pump-action for "self-defence". The sound of the CHCK CHCK is probably enough to make somebody run the fuck out if they aren't prepared to fight, no need to fire it. If it comes down to it, though, he is probably the kind of person to still shoot if needed = ]
I think your statement is pretty wrong, in the fact that a shotgun is pretty good on a purely psychological level.
I'm not saying the sound of a shotgun wouldn't scare people away, I'm saying that the fact that you feel the need to own a firearm to feel safe in your own house is laughable. I mean, if people are getting murdered in your neighborhood on a monthly basis then perhaps there's a bigger problem at hand, but assuming you live in a relatively OK neighborhood, owning a shotgun is ridiculous.
I find it funny that people worry so much about bullshit that never happens that they spend money on things like firearms. Buy a fucking dog, they detect everything, wake you up, and alert the burglar that "oh these people know I'm trying to get in." -- they also make great companions for you and your family.
of course, most petty thieves look for houses that have no signs of people being home, and even then a dog may scare them away.
but you guys are thinking of situations where someone busts into your house with the intent of ripping you to shreds and raping your daughters, where a dog wouldn't be much help.
in which case I'd recommend (if you are so worried), that you send your kids to school equipped with kevlar vests and guns in their backpacks, because a gunman might open fire in their classroom.
that's my view on this, and I'm assuming you don't live in a fucking warzone of a neighborhood, and if you do -- i don't have the right to judge you. but other than that, if you live in the typical area, then you must be a pussy to think you need a gun by your side when you sleep.
My dad bought a gun when my parents were dating, and my mom was being stalked by one of her ex-boyfriends and felt very threatened, even at home. Their house was very shitty, and although living in a quiet place, there was not much force needed to get inside.
Does it seem unreasonable here? Just wondering your opinion, not trying to fight back or anything.
If the threat was real enough to consider buying a firearm, I'd have to ask you if they called the police first and got this sorted out with a restraining order or something similar.
Hahahahahahah did everyone just skip over this post or what? Seriously? Did you even think before you wrote this?
So somebody who is planning on breaking into someone's house, which is a crime, in order to commit many more crimes, will be deterred by a piece of paper telling him not to do it?
did you read my follow up post or do you honestly think that criminals are that dumb?
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