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Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
August 23 2009 01:22 GMT
#581
On August 17 2009 15:25 CaucasianAsian wrote:
http://www.kltv.com/global/story.asp?s=10933571

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WHITEHOUSE, TX (KLTV) - The school year is almost here, and if literature of the Bible is not already offered in your child's school, it will be this fall.

Books are a common sight in classrooms around the nation, but the Bible is one book that is not. Come this fall, a Texas law says all public schools must offer information relating to the Bible in their curriculum.

"By the end of the year, what they begin to realize is that it is pervasive. You can't get away from it. The kids came back and were like 'It's everywhere,'" said John Keeling, the social studies chair at Whitehouse High School. Whitehouse already offers a Bible elective. "The purpose of a course like this isn't even really to get kids to believe it per say. It is just to appreciate the profound impact that it has had on our history and on our government," said Keeling.

The law actually passed in 2007, but this will be the first school year it is enforced because the bill says, "The provisions of this act pertaining to a school district do not take effect until the 2009-2010 school year."

This has gained mixed reactions from East Texans. "I think it is a good thing because a lot of kids don't have that experience, and they already want to take prayer out of school as it is-- and you see where our kids are ending up!" said Tyler resident Laura Tucker.

Tyler resident Havis Tatum disagrees with Tucker. He said, "I don't want anybody teaching their religious beliefs to my child unless they want to send their child to my house and let me teach them my religious views. There is no difference."

School officials tell us schools haven't enforced this law because of confusion over the bill's wording and lack of state funding.

For now, each school district must find a way to fill the requirement before the seats are filled with students.


Cliffnotes: Texas is requiring all public schools to incorporate the bible into their curriculum.

What happened to church and state being separate? I'm not a christian, and I know there are people in Texas who are not as well. So this is going to be a huge burden on people on having to learn both creationism and darwinism. No matter what they believe.

Just to clarify, "Dawinism" is a term used derogatorily by those who believe that evolutionary biology is false. There were a lot of things Darwin didn't know, so "evolution" is not the same as "Darwinism." Evolution is a scientific theory, not an "-ism."
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7327 Posts
August 23 2009 01:24 GMT
#582
On August 23 2009 09:51 EEEE1234 wrote:
I'm probably going to get my ass flamed off, but Imma say this anyways...

Atheism is a religion. If you go teaching Darwinism and the Big Bang and that we're all stardust, you are no different than one who teaches Intelligent Design (is that supposed to be capitalized?), Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, even that Flying Spaghetti Monster religion. Separation of state and church is impossible because everything in the world is all interconnected.

However, I would suggest that the state grant parents the permission to withhold their child from such a class if it's grade school.



If atheism is a religion not collecting stamps is a hobby! =-)
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Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
August 23 2009 09:01 GMT
#583
On August 23 2009 09:51 EEEE1234 wrote:
I'm probably going to get my ass flamed off, but Imma say this anyways...

Atheism is a religion. If you go teaching Darwinism and the Big Bang and that we're all stardust, you are no different than one who teaches Intelligent Design (is that supposed to be capitalized?), Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, even that Flying Spaghetti Monster religion.


Your post displays a lack of understanding of some very basic points. It also makes use of a tired, repeatedly refuted trope.

Firstly, "Darwinism", the Big Bang and other such scientific notions have no direct connection to atheism whatsoever. Secondly, atheism is not a religion. Declining to accept theist assertions, on the grounds that such assertions are unsupported by the available evidence, is in no way, shape or form a religion.
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Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
August 23 2009 11:41 GMT
#584
nothing good ever comes out of religion..
One ring, to rule them all!
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
August 23 2009 11:43 GMT
#585
On August 23 2009 09:51 EEEE1234 wrote:
I'm probably going to get my ass flamed off, but Imma say this anyways...

Atheism is a religion. If you go teaching Darwinism and the Big Bang and that we're all stardust, you are no different than one who teaches Intelligent Design (is that supposed to be capitalized?), Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, even that Flying Spaghetti Monster religion. Separation of state and church is impossible because everything in the world is all interconnected.

However, I would suggest that the state grant parents the permission to withhold their child from such a class if it's grade school.

Negative.. Atheism has nothing to do with religion.. Zip.. Zero.
One ring, to rule them all!
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
August 23 2009 12:02 GMT
#586
On August 23 2009 20:41 Samurai- wrote:
nothing good ever comes out of religion..


Because churches never are charitable...
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
Tyraz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
New Zealand310 Posts
August 23 2009 12:07 GMT
#587
On August 23 2009 20:41 Samurai- wrote:
nothing good ever comes out of religion..

Lol, I'm not gonna lie, that was a pretty brave troll :p
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NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 20:29:57
August 23 2009 20:29 GMT
#588
On August 23 2009 20:43 Samurai- wrote:
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On August 23 2009 09:51 EEEE1234 wrote:
I'm probably going to get my ass flamed off, but Imma say this anyways...

Atheism is a religion. If you go teaching Darwinism and the Big Bang and that we're all stardust, you are no different than one who teaches Intelligent Design (is that supposed to be capitalized?), Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, even that Flying Spaghetti Monster religion. Separation of state and church is impossible because everything in the world is all interconnected.

However, I would suggest that the state grant parents the permission to withhold their child from such a class if it's grade school.

Negative.. Atheism has nothing to do with religion.. Zip.. Zero.


The interesting point here is that without religion, there would be no atheism. There would be nothing for atheism to define itself against. Opposition requires an initial position for the other to oppose.

It's an interesting irony.
kaizenmx
Profile Joined February 2009
United States110 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 21:48:49
August 23 2009 21:23 GMT
#589
I'm a catholic-christian. But, I'm not convinced with bible or all the teachings and preachings from priests or pope.

I only believe there is God out there chillin, and that's it.

I'm only catholic because my parents forced me to.

Every kind of religion has always been "shove it over to people until they are converted". Except maybe Hinduism and Buddhism.

If they are gonna give the option to give bibles in school, they might as well give out copies of quran and torah and courses to teach islam and judaism as well.
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