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[Guide] Kishime's guide to Card Counting in BJ - Page 4

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Deadlift
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States358 Posts
June 10 2009 14:01 GMT
#61
On June 10 2009 10:32 MyStiC_Chaos wrote:
Skimmed guide. This certainly reminds me of the movie 21. Not sure why, but I liked that movie.

Thanks for the guide.


The movie "21" shows the actual method accurately, but you do not immediately win millions upon millions of dollars. In addition, you probably won't have sex with another counter and I would not recommend giving your chips to strippers for them to cash out.

Thanks for the compliments though.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10501 Posts
June 10 2009 14:42 GMT
#62
no counting plz

gm plz -_-;;
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
June 10 2009 15:24 GMT
#63
So when are you gonna start that actuary Q&A
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Deadlift
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States358 Posts
June 11 2009 13:47 GMT
#64
On June 11 2009 00:24 Empyrean wrote:
So when are you gonna start that actuary Q&A


I haven't received any questions about it in the past few days. If anyone else asks me anything I'll put one up.
Kenny
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States678 Posts
June 15 2009 14:13 GMT
#65
Really awesome guide, and I just read through it, and the entire thread and already feel a lot more knowledgeable on Blackjack in general. I'm going to learn how to do this as fast as possible!

Funny thing is, I got kicked out of a casino once out of dumb luck. I hit a couple small pots early and then just randomly decided to bet big, and won. The pit master came over and kindly asked me to leave the premises. Of course I was a bit shocked and asked why..he walked me over to the door and said "A casino is a business, not the salvation army" and that was it. I was a bit upset (for obvious reasons) but I kind of laugh at it these days ;P
Deadlift
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States358 Posts
June 15 2009 15:25 GMT
#66
On June 15 2009 23:13 Kenny wrote:
Really awesome guide, and I just read through it, and the entire thread and already feel a lot more knowledgeable on Blackjack in general. I'm going to learn how to do this as fast as possible!

Funny thing is, I got kicked out of a casino once out of dumb luck. I hit a couple small pots early and then just randomly decided to bet big, and won. The pit master came over and kindly asked me to leave the premises. Of course I was a bit shocked and asked why..he walked me over to the door and said "A casino is a business, not the salvation army" and that was it. I was a bit upset (for obvious reasons) but I kind of laugh at it these days ;P


Thanks for the props. I've heard the "this is a business" line way too many times. You start to dislike the casinos even more when you realize they try to intimidate anyone who wins even a little bit of money.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
June 15 2009 16:54 GMT
#67
When they kick you out, you get your money back, right?
Deadlift
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States358 Posts
June 16 2009 15:44 GMT
#68
On June 16 2009 01:54 Klogon wrote:
When they kick you out, you get your money back, right?


Since I only play in AC, they aren't even allowed to kick me out. But I believe if you are kicked out you get to keep your money.
themajor
Profile Joined June 2009
1 Post
June 17 2009 22:52 GMT
#69
I have a few questions.

first, when do you usually decide its time to walk? as in, how far behind or how far ahead will you come out of the table (at max)? from what I can tell by looking at your chart, you seem to bail when you lose about 1k and you stay till you gain 1k. that is just my guess but it seems good.

second, do you leave a table when the count is very negative? (say it is -15 or more) or do you stay and wait for the boot to finish and be replaced?
Deadlift
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States358 Posts
June 17 2009 23:13 GMT
#70
On June 18 2009 07:52 themajor wrote:
I have a few questions.

first, when do you usually decide its time to walk? as in, how far behind or how far ahead will you come out of the table (at max)? from what I can tell by looking at your chart, you seem to bail when you lose about 1k and you stay till you gain 1k. that is just my guess but it seems good.

second, do you leave a table when the count is very negative? (say it is -15 or more) or do you stay and wait for the boot to finish and be replaced?


I decide to walk away when:

A. I'm tired and making mistakes
B. I don't want to play anymore

How much money you have won or lost should have no effect on when you decide to walk away. There is no such thing as hot or cold streaks.. If you are down $2000 after 3 hours you are still expected to win the same amount as always from that point forward.

I don't leave the table because it is usually a pain in the ass to get a seat at a decent table. Sometimes I will leave to go to the bathroom if the count is very negative though.

Deadlift
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States358 Posts
August 16 2009 19:24 GMT
#71
Even though I didn't win I'm bumping this so people can bring down AC!
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 16 2009 19:38 GMT
#72
On June 18 2009 07:52 themajor wrote:
I have a few questions.

first, when do you usually decide its time to walk? as in, how far behind or how far ahead will you come out of the table (at max)? from what I can tell by looking at your chart, you seem to bail when you lose about 1k and you stay till you gain 1k. that is just my guess but it seems good.

second, do you leave a table when the count is very negative? (say it is -15 or more) or do you stay and wait for the boot to finish and be replaced?

this guy probably has noooo idea what starcraft is
blabberrrrr
Deadlift
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States358 Posts
April 08 2010 12:50 GMT
#73
Just got a key through opt in! Not letting this guide go to waste though!
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
April 08 2010 20:52 GMT
#74
On April 08 2010 21:50 Kishime wrote:
Just got a key through opt in! Not letting this guide go to waste though!

I'm glad you bumped. It's a good read.
5sz6sz7sz1a2a3a4a kwanrollllllled
FreshVegetables
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Finland513 Posts
April 08 2010 21:20 GMT
#75
Definitely gonna try this out sometime soon! Thanks for sharing your knowledge, it's highly appreciated : )
yummy tomatoes
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 08 2010 21:57 GMT
#76
On April 09 2010 05:52 number1gog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2010 21:50 Kishime wrote:
Just got a key through opt in! Not letting this guide go to waste though!

I'm glad you bumped. It's a good read.


Dude, awesome bump, and awesome that you got a key. Nice guide! enjoyed reading a lot
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JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
April 08 2010 23:30 GMT
#77
Thanks for the bump/post, interesting read :D

So did anyone try this from the guide since it was posted?
and if so what were the results?
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Stratos.FEAR
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada706 Posts
April 08 2010 23:39 GMT
#78
ok so the casino i go to has this machine which shuffles the cards. basically how i think it is is this: they have a shoe of about 6 decks in there( i will assume) and then when a certain amount of cards have been dealt they take that and put it back in the machine which makes a small noise(most likely shuffling the cards). so my question is: does this affect the count in any way? it doesnt seem possible to know how deep the cut is and to know when they will changed the next shoe
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
April 09 2010 00:08 GMT
#79
I have trouble understanding the Illusion 18 chart. It doesn't give any actions (stay, hit, double, split etc), so what exactly is the opposite of normal? Also, will it be more accurate if the counting is more discrete? Instead of having -1, 0, +1, what if we extend it into -1, -0.5, 0, +0.5, +1? Would it be better?
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
April 09 2010 00:21 GMT
#80
On June 03 2009 07:20 Kishime wrote:
If you’ve seen the movie 21, erase it from your memory.

I knew 21 was bullshit
Nony is Bonjwa
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