On June 10 2009 05:03 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Germany's opening moves made no sense. He didn't have to bounce on Holland and put no pressure on either Sweden or Belgium.

http://www.diplom.org/DipPouch/Zine/S1999R/Wolf/centrifuge.html

That was his strategy, and I'm 99% sure he read that article. England almost always would have taken Norway instead of Holland, but for some reason he decided Holland was the better choice...

stenole

Norway868 Posts

June 09 2009 21:17 GMT

#142

It would be helpful if people PM me so we can get some complete list of players who would want to join a game 2. This also applies to players involved in game 1. I know a couple people have declared they wanted to play in the thread but have changed their minds. I would very much like to play again. Hopefully not as Austria if Germany crumbles again.

Falcynn

United States3597 Posts

June 10 2009 02:25 GMT

#143

On June 07 2009 15:23 ydg wrote:
Hey guys
I used to use http://jdip.sourceforge.net/ for my game when I used to play :p. You guys should check it out to see your practice moves or whatnot (I dunno how the site works)

So I finally decided to get this, and while I probably don't want to do anything that could give anyone some sort of advantage, I still felt like posting this.

[url blocked]

It's a jDip file of every move done so far in the game up until where we are now, so you guys can visualize all of your moves better against any possible counters. To open it get jdip from the link in ydg's post, then use that program to open the file in my megaupload link.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

June 10 2009 02:38 GMT

#144

http://phpdiplomacy.net/

Great, great site to host diplomacy games. It's a site where you can set up your own game (private or public), and play at your leisure. Simple and flawless interface, I use it all the time to get games going.

Falcynn

United States3597 Posts

June 10 2009 03:05 GMT

#145

Post on last page updated with new builds/disbandments. I'll also get to work on uploading the updated jDip file for anyone too lazy to do it themselves

and in case anyone doesn't feel like looking at the last page, here's this last turns results
+ Show Spoiler [Fall 1904] +

Fall 1904

England:
The fleet at Liverpool hold.
The fleet at London hold. (dislodged)
The fleet at Denmark move to Kiel.
The fleet at Holland support move to Kiel from Denmark. (fails, dislodged)
France:
The fleet at North Atlantic Ocean move to Liverpool. (fails)
The army at Clyde move to Edinburgh.
The fleet at Mid-Atlantic Ocean move to Western Mediterranean.
The army at Wales move to London.
The fleet at English Channel support move to London from Wales.
The army at Belgium support move to Holland from Kiel.
Italy:
The fleet at Ionian Sea move to Greece. (fails)
The fleet at Tunis move to Ionian Sea. (fails)
The army at Venice move to Trieste. (fails)
The fleet at Adriatic Sea support move to Trieste from Venice. (fails)
Germany:
The fleet at Skagerrack move to North Sea.
The army at Munich move to Kiel. (fails)
The army at Kiel move to Holland.
Turkey:
The fleet at Black Sea hold.
The army at Bulgaria hold.
The fleet at Albania move to Adriatic Sea. (fails)
The army at Serbia move to Greece. (fails)
The fleet at Aegean Sea move to Greece. (fails)
The army at Armenia move to Smyrna.
The fleet at Trieste support move to Adriatic Sea from Albania. (support cut)
Russia:
The army at Norway hold.
The army at Ukraine move to Sevastopol.
The fleet at Rumania move to Black Sea. (fails)
The fleet at Baltic Sea move to Denmark.
The army at Budapest move to Serbia. (fails)
The army at Prussia support hold to Berlin.
The army at Vienna support hold to Trieste.
The army at Berlin support move to Kiel from Denmark.
The fleet at Sweden support move to Denmark from Baltic Sea.

Builds/Disbandment
Germany:
The army in Holland is destroyed.
England:
The fleet in Liverpool is destroyed.
The fleet in Yorkshire is destroyed.
Russia:
Army in Warsaw is operational.
Army in Moscow is operational.
France:
Army in Paris is operational.
Army in Marseilles is operational.

Edit: updated jdip file
[url blocked]

Musoeun

United States4324 Posts

June 10 2009 04:25 GMT

#146

Yeah, I read France wrong, and I made the mistake of trying something goofy in a game with two players who read the Zine. Not that I could have known that at the start. I still think it was worth the risk.

And as soon as I found out Russia knew about it, I was planning to swing it around at England (whoo two fleets), but then I lost Munich, and... yeah.

stenole

Norway868 Posts

June 10 2009 21:34 GMT

#147

Edit: posted by mistake...

Falcynn

United States3597 Posts

June 11 2009 04:42 GMT

#148

Spring 1905

England:
The fleet at Kiel hold.
The fleet at Heligoland Bight support hold to Kiel.
France:
The fleet at English Channel convoy to Belgium from London.
The army at Edinburgh hold.
The fleet at Western Mediterranean move to Tyrrhenian Sea.
The army at Marseilles move to Piedmont.
The army at London move to Belgium via convoy.
The army at Belgium move to Ruhr.
The fleet at North Atlantic Ocean move to Norwegian Sea.
The army at Paris move to Burgundy.
Italy:
The fleet at Adriatic Sea move to Albania. (fails, dislodged, retreats to Apulia)
The army at Venice move to Trieste. (fails)
The fleet at Tunis support hold to Ionian Sea.
The fleet at Ionian Sea support move to Albania from Adriatic Sea. (fails)
Germany:
The fleet at North Sea move to Holland.
The army at Munich move to Silesia. (fails)
Turkey:
The army at Smyrna hold.
The fleet at Black Sea hold.
The fleet at Trieste move to Adriatic Sea.
The army at Bulgaria move to Greece.
The army at Serbia move to Trieste.
The fleet at Aegean Sea move to Ionian Sea. (fails)
The fleet at Albania support move to Adriatic Sea from Trieste.
Russia:
The army at Norway hold.
The fleet at Rumania hold.
The fleet at Denmark hold.
The army at Moscow move to Ukraine.
The army at Warsaw move to Galicia.
The fleet at Sweden move to Baltic Sea.
The army at Prussia move to Silesia.
The army at Budapest support hold to Rumania.
The army at Sevastopol support hold to Rumania.
The army at Berlin support move to Silesia from Prussia.
The army at Vienna support move to Trieste from Serbia.

Luddite

United States2315 Posts

June 11 2009 05:40 GMT

#149

On June 10 2009 13:25 Musoeun wrote:
Yeah, I read France wrong, and I made the mistake of trying something goofy in a game with two players who read the Zine. Not that I could have known that at the start. I still think it was worth the risk.

And as soon as I found out Russia knew about it, I was planning to swing it around at England (whoo two fleets), but then I lost Munich, and... yeah.

I dunno if I trust the strategies from that site at all. A lot of them have background like "I tried this once. It didn't work, but I'm pretty confident that someone else might be able to make it work! You just have to make sure that all the other people do exactly what you expect them to do."

Falcynn

United States3597 Posts

June 11 2009 06:49 GMT

#150

Bah, I should have told England to bugger off and go back to Britain. Maybe then he'd still hold his homeland, France wouldn't be as powerful, and I might have actually had a shot at all of Germany.

Instead I wanted to gain an ally in the West and...

Falcynn

United States3597 Posts

June 12 2009 04:02 GMT

#151

By now I think everyone should have a handle at reading the maps.

Fall 1905

If people want I can still try to post the text version, although I don't know if anyone's actually following this still.

mikeymoo

Canada7170 Posts

June 12 2009 04:45 GMT

#152

Maps are fine. I'm definitely following but I can't comment on anything I see

LastWish

2015 Posts

June 12 2009 09:18 GMT

#153

I've got one question.
Suppose Bohemia holds.
Now I support hold Bohemia from Vienna.
Can I support hold Vienna from Budapest - Actually Vienna is not on hold so does it work?

stenole

Norway868 Posts

June 12 2009 10:40 GMT

#154

You can support hold another unit that is supporting, yes.

stenole

Norway868 Posts

June 12 2009 16:53 GMT

#155

We're starting up game 2 pretty soon. Seems like some of the people who agreed to play are staying offline or are not checking their PMs so if anyone wants to steal their spots, just PM me.

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 12 2009 17:06 GMT

#156

does phpdiplomacy have the variant diplomacy 1900? (or maybe it's 1904?) It's a more balanced map that doesn't have essentially nil winning chances for austria and italy and good chances for russia and france.

stenole

Norway868 Posts

June 12 2009 17:18 GMT

#157

No, it only has classic diplomacy

Falcynn

United States3597 Posts

June 12 2009 17:42 GMT

#158

On June 13 2009 02:06 talismania wrote:
does phpdiplomacy have the variant diplomacy 1900? (or maybe it's 1904?) It's a more balanced map that doesn't have essentially nil winning chances for austria and italy and good chances for russia and france.

What? Classic diplomacy is perfectly balanced.

*ignores the fact that France and Russia are pwning this game while Austria was eliminated first.

ShadowDrgn

United States2497 Posts

June 12 2009 18:10 GMT

#159

Game 2 has begun.