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Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
May 10 2020 20:11 GMT
#7361
Game Over has some rough SVs and awkward patterns (lots of minijacks ending on chords and just overall kinda messy patterns), and Rough is a BMS style bracketfest.

Love & Justice would be a lot easier if it was either slower, or had less awkward chordstreams. But instead it's fast AND has some awkward chordstreams lol. That play was honestly a fair bit better than I was expecting. Even just passing it was always kinda hit or miss for me.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
May 11 2020 16:28 GMT
#7362
wow glad to see this thread is getting some activity again. <3


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map is hella overrated, regardless its still a new 271 pp top play for me.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-11 23:47:49
May 11 2020 23:44 GMT
#7363
Played some more today! I'm very rusty but my reading is as good as ever (i pb'd three maps at ar6.5-7.5 and performed fine at 10+). Finger control is great at low speed/density but with dense >170bpm turns into just smashing the keyboard with my fist so that's gonna need a lot of work.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-16 04:34:22
May 15 2020 16:24 GMT
#7364
Finally managed to S this again. Been too damn long since I was able to S this.
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First pass on this bastard
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usually the "3 inverse columns" pattern (that's how I think of it anyway) ruins me.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-17 10:58:00
May 17 2020 10:57 GMT
#7365
new FC on long map :D
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-17 21:37:30
May 17 2020 12:35 GMT
#7366
Nice one Cyro, superclean! I really can't hear the song anymore, played various version too many times.

My weekend's bad. I feel superslow, so only did some mashing buttons on davteezy maps and some low star ranked maps. Got two top 50 scores, lol. But the maps were so easy that it's not even worth mentioning.

Nice thing is that I found out that Aqo has apparently made 30ish maps in mania. Can't wait to try them, hoping they're as good as his standard maps.

Edit: things turned around today. No notable scores, but very noticable speed increase.
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Case in point: 5.3 stars S at first try 215 bpm (which i think is pretty fast in mania, at least for me way harder than standard.)
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Aqo's maps helped as well, all the maps have pretty awkward patterns, and they're all od10. After a few songs it felt like i had no right hand ringfinger anymore.
Edit2: I don't mean to say the finger was numb (which is obviously very bad), just its muscles were so tired I could hardly move it.



Also good score varanice! I can already feel the heat. (when are you going to play 7k?)

Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
May 19 2020 10:13 GMT
#7367
was messing around with some HT/DT stuff to try out some new songs and got some pretty nutty HT scores. blastix in particular was pretty wild. should probably try to improve my galaxy collapse HT score but 9 minutes is such a marathon.

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On May 17 2020 21:35 Yorbon wrote:
Also good score varanice! I can already feel the heat. (when are you going to play 7k?)

dunno, don't have much interest in learning it tbh.
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
May 19 2020 17:31 GMT
#7368
Ah, the good old HT exploit...

On May 19 2020 19:13 Varanice wrote:
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On May 17 2020 21:35 Yorbon wrote:
Also good score varanice! I can already feel the heat. (when are you going to play 7k?)

dunno, don't have much interest in learning it tbh.

Bummer.
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
May 20 2020 20:21 GMT
#7369
Indeed. Well, this is something I guess:
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-23 21:32:47
May 23 2020 20:26 GMT
#7370
GJ Bobbias, can't even read that one. It's way too fast.

Weekly report:
Intensity tolerance has gone up noticably. I'm pretty comfortable now at davteezy and underjoy until around 5 stars. More than five and it's quite likely I can't get an A. Been trying to do 2 things today while logged on:
- Get an S on every ranked map I hadn't already. (<4.6 stars)
- Try to pass as many ranked maps I hadn't already.
Improvement was felt mainly in the former. I was dead tired, but still managed to get some good scores. And for the latter I did pass some new stuff, but not really impressive. I tried the Kizuna map again, but was killed again at the end,at the 'sudden' chords. So stupid, the map is incredibly overvalued, if not for that one point.

Some ss in spoiler:
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That slow part used to always kill me. Bizarre it still nearly kills me even now. The rest of the map is not particularly hard.
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If you want some easy pp, this map felt really easy for its star value. Only 88% i know, but it was a pass, which is really rare for me at 6+ stars.
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Pretty decent, hadn't got this in a while, but it's not really satisfactory, apart from the bpm, seeing how I have trouble with most >200 bpm maps.


Edit: forgot to mention: Passed 4,500 pp. Only 800 from Bobbias
Only 75th of the Netherlands, super bad, haha.
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-26 07:08:44
May 25 2020 00:12 GMT
#7371
Oh god Wintersun -.- I loved that map when it came out, except that I died on the slowjam. Eventually I passed it a few times. I still mostly just die on the slowjam. It's fucking evil. I still only have an A on it.

Shang a Lang is a bit overrated, but it's still a pretty tough map to do well on.

For some reason I cannot for the life of me remember Heisei Cataclysm even though I know I've played it a few times in the past.


My god these patterns are hell for me. Not sure if this turned out well or not but I could have easily died on it.
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These patterns are fun as hell, and those map is such good practice for them too.
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And I swear this map refuses to be S'd.
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Ayy. I miss the unnerf'd version, but oh well.
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 19:47:29
May 30 2020 19:45 GMT
#7372
Oh, didn't see your edit Bobbias. I will look at them later, as I'm pretty tired after playing today.
Is the Harajuku map the same as in the LN Dan?

Short update from this week:
Again more speed/intensity practice, improving on both. Also wanted to do some ranked maps, with again 150+ pp gain. Some pretty good scores here, if I say so myself.
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Some are new. I took the liberty of going through Bobbias' top scores, to see if there were interesting ranked maps I didn't have yet. Interesting maps were found, but most of them too hard for now.
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 20:29:15
May 30 2020 20:27 GMT
#7373
Damn, that's a lot of recent top scores o.o

As you could see when you checked my scores, I haven't been able to improve too many of them recently. There's a couple, but not many. A lot of my old scores were flukes or stuff I actually practiced for a bit before I got it. Too bad I hate playing a lot of the harder ranked maps.

Not sure how much it might have been changed for the LN dan. A lot of maps in the dans have been edited by jinjin to be more in line with the difficulty of the dan. So it's very similar and MIGHT not have been changed, but I'm too lazy to check if it was changed up or not.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-31 19:08:57
May 31 2020 19:08 GMT
#7374
Yeah, I went on some ranked sprees the last few weeks. Since I measure improvement by proportion of plays that top my previous best on some map, this is a pretty good sign of improvement, backed up by non-ranked progress.

Even your older scores are still insane though, like the double helix and many more I can't remember. Practicing a specific map is such a double edged sword I feel. Potentially demotivating even in the long run. I''m still on my 'play a map only once per week' schedule.
I agree about the harder ranked maps not being thát fun. It's more the joy of improvement than the joy of the map itself. I don't want to get too deep into that, but I think the ranked process (and the opinions of mods and people involved) are partially to blame for that. And obviously there are exceptions.

Oh and btw, the above made me think about the mapper Rumia (or however his name was spelled). I used to hate his maps, but I've grown to like them, now that I have some more skill. He won't be my favourite, but I used to suffer from overestimation of my ability to understand/assess mania maps.. (maybe still do lol...)
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-31 19:49:30
May 31 2020 19:46 GMT
#7375
Well when I say practice, I use the term rather loosely lol. Anything more frequent than like once a week for me is basically practice on a map. Generally if I consistently play a ranked map over a period of several months, even if the plays are spread out weeks apart that's basically practicing the map given how I barely even play ranked maps.

I definitely agree that the ranking criteria, modding process, biases towards certain kinds of patterns and certain HP/OD settings and such all work together to make ranked maps... generally less fun than their unranked counterparts.

And yeah, I've come kinda close to my Double Helix and Doppelganger scores (for example), but haven't beaten them thanks to them all being legitimately good scores for my skill level.

Honestly I've always been fond of Rumia-'s maps. I know there were some players who quite vocally disliked his stuff, but I always liked it. Like you said, not a favorite, but I still like them. I think when it comes to ability to understand/assess maps, that's something that can vary wildly depending on the kind of map too. Like, I feel like I have a relatively good sense of good and bad maps in 7k (and I always make an effort to separate whether I enjoy a map from whether it's good or not), but when it comes to 4k, that pretty much goes out the window. I can certainly identify absolute garbage 4k maps, but beyond that it's like "yep, that's 4k, and it's playable". Sure, if the patterns are really fucking nonsensical, I can point that out, but once it comes down to assessing specific pattern choices, I got nothing.

Oh, also this is a thing that happened:
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Came out of Chocolate Disco with a 94. Had over 95 after Oath Nova Apocalypse... But I couldn't keep it over 95 on the other 2. I was pretty sure I wasn't gonna be able to keep the S through Savior of Song, but I was really hoping I could recover on the last one. Just a little bit more and I got it.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
May 31 2020 20:47 GMT
#7376
Ah sorry about that. I was actually wondering about you mentioning practice like that, seeing how we agreed on the issue of map repetition probably like years ago (or I'm imagining things, but I don't think so). From my background practice implies shot term repetition; thats where the misunderstanding probably came from.

My reaction to that screenshot was literally 'HOLY F***' (even saying that out loud lol)
It's been a while since I've played it, but I couldn't even get an A back then. The savior of song is pretty annoying. Until Dan 4, the 3rd songs are super easy, but this one's just a little too fast.
I won't even mention the other three. Damn, what a score.
Btw, what score do you get on Dan 6? I haven't even finished it, due to stamina issues, lmao.

Sorry I won't react to the rest of your post. Topic of good/bad maps is something I could write way too much on, and after an hour of thinking just delete the whole post. Don't really feel like it right now.
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
June 01 2020 05:01 GMT
#7377
Yeah that score really surprised me too because IIRC I was generally stuck at around 91 on that. I just tried 6th dan and failed on the inverse. had a 91 after both songs before that though. I'm seriously awful at inverse now. Even worse than I used to be.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
June 06 2020 20:33 GMT
#7378
Small update: bad day today, don't know if I'll play tomorrow.

I did find a Dutch Mania Discord, which is pretty nice. Some guys are absolutely insane skillwise, with ranks in 3 digits. Bought supporter as well again for for months (only 12$ wth) to see country rank, and their scores are nothing to sneeze at.
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
June 07 2020 16:00 GMT
#7379
I'm admin on a relatively small mania discord server. Ping me if you want an invite. We've got some decent players. And Tachyon (chordjack god like attang).

Bad day today for me too. Except I got like +6 pp on Paran Nunmul Sonnet. Still no S on it though :< 94.26%
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
June 09 2020 23:56 GMT
#7380
pop me an invite if you want.

Varanice#0001

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got this score today. previous pb was like 1k combo and 97.0 acc. choked the last LN section.
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