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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
March 13 2018 05:35 GMT
#7101
On March 13 2018 14:11 cabarkapa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2018 13:56 Cyro wrote:
On March 13 2018 13:27 cabarkapa wrote:
Well after coming back and playing a bit I finally obtained 2 more pp from something that wasn't played 6 years ago!

I can see why pp is a better method to display skill, as I never had any business being in the top 500 of players, but ranking up through score was probably the most addictive part of the game for me and it's a little sad to see that stat is not even view-able outside the top 1000.


it's a little sad to see that stat is not even view-able outside the top 1000.


Isn't it? Which score stat do you mean?

Rank decay because of other people getting better is real too, my old rank 3188 used to be at 3768pp when i had it but now it's 6619pp. Top X rank is a quickly moving target rather than a goalpost

I meant the raw ranked score, which has a top 1000 on the website, and otherwise I only see how much points until I pass the next guy.

But yeah the average player skill for this game has gone through the roof so not surprised to see the rank decay, but I can already feel that wall that I occasionally see people complain about hitting. A whole lot of practice and going no where has to happen before any sort of ranking up occurs now.


I see what you mean, you can't easily view PP or score / ranked score past the top 1000 unless you're individually looking at peoples profiles
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-15 01:32:44
March 14 2018 08:41 GMT
#7102
Meanwhile on reddit: Some dude was testing tablets & drivers with a 3d printer, comparing the windows cursor output (post-driver) to the raw data from the device. Lots of interesting stuff shown. 6.3.9w5 - the "low lag" drivers - actually seem to predict the cursor position and overshoot the pen during fast movement or changes in direction; 6.3.10w2 and others add a lot of lag and average the cursor position across many polls

He made a custom driver for testing and then eventually refined it and posted it for actual gameplay, being picked up and praised by a lot of people. I've just tried it out and it seems to be the best that i've used so far from waving cursor around on desktop and a few maps while tired

There is a toggle-able smoothing function in this custom driver and you can set the amount as well, something i'd been considering for a while. 10ms smoothing (one extra poll?) seems to play well, 35ms feels more like the 6.3.10w2 driver i was using before. Overall it seems to have 6.3.10w2-like performance but with way less input lag and also less smoothing so just solid if it keeps working properly!

https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comments/83hbiq/testing_different_tablet_drivers_with_a_3d_printer/dvhycc8/

For these pics blue is the USB data and green is the cursor in the OS after driver processing

http://hwk.fi/TabletTest/wacom480_9w_12000.png
^6.3.9w5 overshooting during fast movement and changes in direction

http://hwk.fi/TabletTest/wacom472_custom_12000.png
^custom driver

http://hwk.fi/TabletTest/gcode.png
^The picture that should be drawn.


-----

Playing with new driver:


+ Show Spoiler +


Feels great! Cursor is stable and low latency even on a smaller area, minimum weird shit

WHO WOULD WIN: The entire Wacom driver team with 7 years of work or one reddit dude with a spare evening x3
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
March 18 2018 19:38 GMT
#7103
lolol
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-19 05:57:30
March 19 2018 03:43 GMT
#7104
Lol who did that. Thats amazing!

Also, wacom isnt really optimizing for osu with their drivers so thats a little unfair. Still pretty awesome that somwone can make a custom driver like that.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-20 00:00:50
March 19 2018 06:04 GMT
#7105
oops!
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
March 19 2018 09:23 GMT
#7106
I was referring to the tuturu when I said "who did that". I get what you mean about the drivers though. Its a shame nobody at wacom realized that the best way to make the driver would be to give users control.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-20 08:32:17
March 19 2018 23:41 GMT
#7107
Ohh lol

guy running the stream ;D

this is huge too https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comments/85lm1a/firedigger_admitting_banning_players_on_official/?sort=top

funny and disturbing to see this kind of shit going down

tl;dr osu client sends a bunch of stuff like hardware ID's and process list from your computer to whichever server it's connected to. One of the more popular server owners has been using this info to pretend to be people that have connected to his server on the official server, making fake multi-accounts etc and getting the actual players banned from real osu. osu support haven't commented or replied to some of those players asking about the bans; presumably they don't know/care or hold playing on those other servers as a perma-bannable offense anyway.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
March 20 2018 07:14 GMT
#7108
Oh wow, that's fucking evil. I knew about ous's spying bullshit, but this is a novel way of abusing that info.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-20 10:08:50
March 20 2018 08:57 GMT
#7109
Yeah, response from pepper

at the point you were restricted due to this kind of things, we basically have no way of proving either way, at which point we will likely default to presuming it was actually you doing whatever was done on your account.


"on your account" in this context presumably meaning on a system with your hardware ID's which are fake-able but not something that people can realistically get unless they're able to run a program on your computer
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-21 00:25:27
March 20 2018 12:54 GMT
#7110
I'm not quite savvy enough to have an educated opinion on this, aside from that it's a dick move from the guy owning the private server.

Do these private servers use the same (or very similar) client as bancho uses? If so, it shouldn't be a surprise that this is possible, right? I mean, its pretty well-known how intrusive the client is.

I may be misunderstanding, I didn't even know alternative (score) servers existed.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-20 13:43:01
March 20 2018 13:40 GMT
#7111
Yeah, pretty much
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-20 22:06:02
March 20 2018 22:03 GMT
#7112
I dont know for sure, but I'm willing to bet when you log in the client sends all that extra info, meaning anyone you connect to with the client would be able to grab that data. Doesnt matter how similar the server is to bancho since its the client sending the info in the first place.

And yeah there are a few alternative servers. Ripple is popular since it has its own set of ranked maps that includes tons of maps not ranked on bancho. I think this one was gatari? (a russian private server that occasionally lets non russian friends on as well). Could be wrong since this is mostly just a guess on my part.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
March 21 2018 00:30 GMT
#7113
On March 21 2018 07:03 Bobbias wrote:
I dont know for sure, but I'm willing to bet when you log in the client sends all that extra info, meaning anyone you connect to with the client would be able to grab that data. Doesnt matter how similar the server is to bancho since its the client sending the info in the first place.

Yeah, I got that. Rephrased my original post slightly to make it more clear


And yeah there are a few alternative servers. Ripple is popular since it has its own set of ranked maps that includes tons of maps not ranked on bancho. I think this one was gatari? (a russian private server that occasionally lets non russian friends on as well). Could be wrong since this is mostly just a guess on my part.

First impression of ripple is that it looks really good! I don't think I've heard of most ranked maps I see in other people's scores, so it might be worth it to check some of them out.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
March 21 2018 01:24 GMT
#7114
The maps sure!
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
March 21 2018 14:28 GMT
#7115
[image loading]
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
March 21 2018 15:08 GMT
#7116
^ Relevant:
https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comments/860v6a/in_case_you_missed_it_ephemeralis_confirms_that/dw1m1od/

Should be taken as his personal opinion.
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-22 07:55:46
March 22 2018 07:54 GMT
#7117
Fuck everyone involved in being grade A douchebags in the osu support/account/management shit. Theres absolutely NO good reason to be that big of a fuckhead about this stuff. It feels like little children are managing the game.

And no ephemeralis, this is definitely not how it has to be. This is how you want it to be.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-22 11:55:21
March 22 2018 09:33 GMT
#7118
Zallius just got temporarily removed as mod for an unrelated issue last night - he's had a lot of issues for a while now

[image loading]

As far as i can tell there was a second account created on his network/system for a sibling and Zallius was belligerent in dealing with it

For a game that is basically singleplayer with some co-op singleplayer i am amazed at the amount of drama that can come out.. like, it's a super cool game but on the people side, both community and moderation it's the absolute worst out of anything that i can name. It's a shame that stuff is this way :/
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-23 14:56:53
March 23 2018 11:55 GMT
#7119
Chino(CV.Minase Inori) - Shinsaku no Shiawase wa Kochira! [Dan Dan] (99.74%) 229pp

This one took me over 4700 pp total, will see how long it takes to hit 5k

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Nanamori-chu*Gorakubu - Acchu~ma Seishun! [Fycho's Seishun] (99.42%)
234pp

1x miss at last set of jumps, still about the same pp as 98.9% fc - on the very next play ;D

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AKINO from bless4 - MIIRO [Hime] (98.78%)
234pp

another 1x miss

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Owl City - Up All Night [Insane] +HR (98.97%)
228pp

feels good to play! This is something like 284pp for ss, just hard to keep that on long od10 maps. Could probably refine to 99.55ish


---

TrySail - High Free Spirits -TV.Ver- [Skystar's Extra] (99.49%)
258pp

4765pp total, so maybe +80 for today. I'l give my body a break ;D
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
March 24 2018 06:30 GMT
#7120
On March 22 2018 18:33 Cyro wrote:
For a game that is basically singleplayer with some co-op singleplayer i am amazed at the amount of drama that can come out.. like, it's a super cool game but on the people side, both community and moderation it's the absolute worst out of anything that i can name. It's a shame that stuff is this way :/


#osu chat is something between downright toxic and just a bunch of 10-12 year olds being fucking dumb. Moderation is handled by childish assholes who almost all seem to be on constant power trips. Peppy is a gigantic man child who doesn't understand that criticism is how you improve things (oh wait, isn't that what modding is? How the fuck can he support modding for beatmaps but be such a hypocrite when it comes to the game itself. the mind boggles.)

Literally the only part of the community I've ever been active in is mania, and that's mostly because when I started, the community was small, and full of people with experience from other VSRGs, meaning we weren't a bunch of retarded 10 year olds. Even now I have a hard time handling some of the dumb shit that goes on in #osumania, and the forums too (though once in a while juankristal shows up and tells people to stop being dumb...

I'd love to have mod powers, but considering how inactive I can be, and how I've clashed with... several people (like loctav and peppy) my chances of ever getting mod powers are basically nil.
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