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adratel
Profile Joined July 2014
Germany0 Posts
October 17 2014 18:55 GMT
#5681
This is one of my uploads and currently about the skilllevel I am on (mouse)
[osu!] Noisestorm - Solar [Another] (adratel)
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 17 2014 19:07 GMT
#5682
Just a general question here:

How many levels did it take you guys to be able to finish an "insane" level songs?
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-17 19:43:04
October 17 2014 19:24 GMT
#5683
On October 18 2014 04:07 Xiphos wrote:
Just a general question here:

How many levels did it take you guys to be able to finish an "insane" level songs?
It took me around 6 months to be pretty comfortable at playing insanes. I think these days that would mean being able to play something like 4 star maps? I didn't get A's or something, but i could see what was happening, recognise my mistakes, etc. At the time i only played osu because i wanted to get better at starcraft (silly me), so that may have had a slowing effect.
After that it went pretty fast.

Edit: although I have no clue what your level is, and what mindset you have, there are some tips which make the game a lot more 'clear' and will accelerate your progress: disable video's, dim backgrounds 100% and disable map skin hitsounds (note: not hitsounds in general, only the sounds the maps brings with them) are just a few, but should make quite a difference. All these things can be found in the options.
Sorry if you already knew those.

Edit2: you asked about how many levels, but the level system in osu sucks. It doesnt say anything. If you really want an indication, try the 'Delis' insane' sifficulty of the following map (https://osu.ppy.sh/s/127712) and try it with the mod nofail. If you get around 85% accuracy, it means you're very close to doing normal insanes, around 70-80 means you probably should practice some more of these maps to get more comfortable on them. If you don't know what's going on, you should start practicing hards, and occasionally play some insane to see how you fare.
I honestly believe that there is very little need to play anything below hards (unless of course you have fun playing those maps, i'm purely talking from a competitive point of view)
falconfan02
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States231 Posts
October 17 2014 21:47 GMT
#5684
On October 18 2014 04:07 Xiphos wrote:
Just a general question here:

How many levels did it take you guys to be able to finish an "insane" level songs?


I don't quite remember my level, but all comes down to how much you play. I think it took me around 6 months as well, but this was with super sporadic play, and the jump in skill I saw playing consistently for the last two months was far and away greater than my first six and anything after. I think the average player should be able to start passing insane songs within two months if they play 5 or more hours per week.
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
October 18 2014 01:24 GMT
#5685
As it's been said: levels don't mean anything at all.

Everyone learns at a different rate.

If you really want to get better, the biggest thing you can do for yourself is step out of your comfort zone and play stuff that feels 'too hard', whatever your definition of 'too hard' is. The more often you do this, the better. Doing this can make everything that feels hard now suddenly feel so much easier.

Most people have this urge to shut down or freak out when something feels too hard, and this kind of training helps you get past that kind of reaction.

I also highly recommend you make the changes Yorbon mentions.

Disabling movies and dimming the background means your brain has to do a lot less work when you play, making things a lot easier, even if it doesn't feel like it at first. Disabling the map's hitsounds means your brain doesnt have to do extra work to figure out what the sounds it's hearing are, and can reduce distractions from particularly annoying, loud, or our of place hitsounds (or hitsounds that have a lot of delay).
falconfan02
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States231 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-18 05:47:35
October 18 2014 05:35 GMT
#5686
I definitely agree Bobbias. And speaking of pushing yourself, that's something I haven't done in way too long. Been pretty much exclusively trying to FC songs in the 4-4.5 star range the last couple weeks, so it's about time I stepped out of my comfort zone. Anyone have some good ~5 - 5.3 star maps they'd like to share?

And to give a general idea of where I'm at, here's a couple maps I've been working on that I can't quite beat, but I still feel are within my range.

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/249233
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/110347
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-18 05:55:43
October 18 2014 05:50 GMT
#5687
On October 18 2014 14:35 falconfan02 wrote:
I definitely agree Bobbias. And speaking of pushing yourself, that's something I haven't done in way too long. Been pretty much exclusively trying to FC songs in the 4-4.5 star range the last couple weeks, so it's about time I stepped out of my comfort zone. Anyone have some good ~5 - 5.3 star maps they'd like to share?

I'll just list some of val0108's maps, because I think they're (still) the best maps around. They're not boring and make sense to me.

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/140937 (this is a must have, val's is 5.3)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/43728 (4.63, but i feel it an underestimation, as i think that with all val0108 maps)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/39275 (4.98)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/37705 (5.18)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/28425 (5.14)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/25825 (4.99)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/22509 (5.06, it's ar8)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/33471 (5.04)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/60096 (5.43)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/25248 (4.08, it's 260 bpm though, good for single tap practice. In addition it's cs5)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/33556 (5.31)

Hope you'll find them useful. Some of them certainly were quite some time ago. I remember saying in this thread that playing them made the other insanes look easy. (star values didnt exist then)

edit:seeing your edit, ill add some ones. Just a minute
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/32021 (5.47)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/28864 (5.46)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/28561 (4.67, but, again high bpm)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/35942 (5.78)
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/277983&m=0 (5.54, this one may be a stretch, quite fast)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/29691 (5.04, you probably already have this)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/33068 (5.63)
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
October 18 2014 14:49 GMT
#5688
I've had some trouble with ar10.3 recently, but i wasnt convinced that it was purely my reaction speed that was bad, but my tapping speed. Now, after working on my speed and getting the result below, I'm sure of it:
[image loading]
This was my first try of this map today.
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 01:51:35
October 18 2014 14:56 GMT
#5689
Nice.


On October 18 2014 14:50 Yorbon wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/277983&m=0 (5.54, this one may be a stretch, quite fast)

This and Prankster are a stretch imo, or maybe I just suck.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 04:01:50
October 19 2014 04:01 GMT
#5690
On October 18 2014 23:56 maru~ wrote:
Nice.


Show nested quote +
On October 18 2014 14:50 Yorbon wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/277983&m=0 (5.54, this one may be a stretch, quite fast)

This and Prankster are a stretch imo, or maybe I just suck.

Nah, you're right. I spectated falcon for a while, and it seems I overestimated his level quite a bit, so pretty much all of them were stretching his abilities. That's fine of course, it speeds improvement. But yeah, they're quite hard atm.

Spectating him did make me realise how much levels have risen since i've started playing. I can't remember playing val maps until i was like 16k rank or so.

And this made me try to remember some of the maps i had first. konadora mentioned k-on songs on the first page, i thought they must've been the best maps ever, because they were recommended by someone with a star (lol) and after discovering you could find more songs by searching htt instead of k-on, i discovered the following map:
http://bloodcat.com/osu/m/22954 (it's not downloadable via osu site anymore)
You should just take a look at the harder ones, i doubt they're actually playable, especially the hardest two. Imagine the shock I went through when i first saw them. (remember star values didnt exist, they all had 5 stars)

The first map i had was this one: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/39825
The first japanese song map i had was this one: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/38566
I instantly feel in love with it, as it was by far the best map I had encountered. (The hard diff, that is, cause i was bad)

sorry this turned into an old man's story post.
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
October 19 2014 04:29 GMT
#5691
I remember when I first played osu! I tried really hard to fc this https://osu.ppy.sh/b/89228&m=0 (the Karen diff) lol. I was so bad. Though I guess not knowing you can tap with keyboard and having mouse acceleration on among other dumb things didn't help.

By the way, not sure how good you thought falcon is, but I can't pass these 2 either (again, maybe I just suck, but I feel they are quite a bit harder than the other maps you posted).
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 06:08:33
October 19 2014 06:04 GMT
#5692
I just played random stuff with relax :D

Eventually some skrillex maps without relax i think. I started on [Hard] diffs IIRC

This map!



I thought the sliders like the one at ~1:18-1:21 were cool fitting with music and the triplets were generally nice. I couldn't time doubles or streams (AT ALL, i got a ton of 100's, 50's and misses and it's like od5)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
October 19 2014 07:55 GMT
#5693
Skrillex and Charles445, 2 things I really really dislike. I consider Charles thinking a map is bad a compliment. It probably means that the map isnt boring to play.

@ maru: hm, then I probably just am very bad at estimating maps' difficulty.
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
October 19 2014 08:04 GMT
#5694
Maybe because all of them are easy for you.
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
October 19 2014 12:49 GMT
#5695
On October 19 2014 16:55 Yorbon wrote:
Skrillex and Charles445, 2 things I really really dislike. I consider Charles thinking a map is bad a compliment. It probably means that the map isnt boring to play.



Lol, that's like me and spinboxer's maps. I don't think there's a single spinboxer map I've ever enjoyed.

Charles is a pretty decent guy though, apart from his opinions on osu maps.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
October 19 2014 14:16 GMT
#5696
On October 19 2014 21:49 Bobbias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 16:55 Yorbon wrote:
Skrillex and Charles445, 2 things I really really dislike. I consider Charles thinking a map is bad a compliment. It probably means that the map isnt boring to play.



Lol, that's like me and spinboxer's maps. I don't think there's a single spinboxer map I've ever enjoyed.

Charles is a pretty decent guy though, apart from his opinions on osu maps.
Haha, I can remember a few spinboxer maps i at least used to enjoy, haven't played them in ages though.

I don't know him personally, so I wouldn't know. I wasn't of course attacking him personally, we just have totally different view on osu and maps (also based on some of his forum posts). But I have to say I have an unusual taste as well. Among the mappers I like to play maps from are djpop, saymun, soulfear and mtmcl, for example.
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
October 19 2014 16:50 GMT
#5697
On October 19 2014 23:16 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 21:49 Bobbias wrote:
On October 19 2014 16:55 Yorbon wrote:
Skrillex and Charles445, 2 things I really really dislike. I consider Charles thinking a map is bad a compliment. It probably means that the map isnt boring to play.



Lol, that's like me and spinboxer's maps. I don't think there's a single spinboxer map I've ever enjoyed.

Charles is a pretty decent guy though, apart from his opinions on osu maps.
Haha, I can remember a few spinboxer maps i at least used to enjoy, haven't played them in ages though.

I don't know him personally, so I wouldn't know. I wasn't of course attacking him personally, we just have totally different view on osu and maps (also based on some of his forum posts). But I have to say I have an unusual taste as well. Among the mappers I like to play maps from are djpop, saymun, soulfear and mtmcl, for example.


Yeah, I figured there was nothing personal there. I only really know him from talking about mania because he plays a bit, but I've seem some of his posts so I know what you mean.

I've never liked djpop's stuff much (in mania or std for that matter, since he used to make o2jam charts and has made a few mania maps), but i seem to recall enjoying something by saymun. I probably have odd tastes in std maps too, since I like caren_sk and shinxyn stuff.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
October 19 2014 17:37 GMT
#5698
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/19515
Could it be this one? At least, that's my favourite of his.
Totally forgot about shinxyn, he has some great maps as well! I believe caren is pretty well liked overall, but more so because of the difficulty than anything else, really. His maps are great practice, but the 'slider into double' he uses quite abit is not really my cup of tea. At least not the way he uses it generally. I really liked his 'bad companyz' though, that map's really great.
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
October 19 2014 18:03 GMT
#5699
Pretty sure it was sun3 - Higan Retour but maybe that's just the only one I recognize.

I absolutely love caren's nano.RIPE - real world.

I also like galvenize and rlc's stuff.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
October 19 2014 21:27 GMT
#5700


Would LOVE to see him get this one. 1x sliderbreak.. would be highest PP in the game i think
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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