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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
September 07 2014 10:54 GMT
#5581
Probably nobody will see this, but i'm going to livestream some attempts at Saiya - Remote Control [Insane] HR FC for a little while starting now~

www.twitch.tv/cyrostarcraft
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 12:21:54
September 07 2014 12:13 GMT
#5582
I failed and stopped after about 50 mins (i was playing it before i started streaming quite a bit) but i've had half a dozen runs with good accuracy to the second jumps. Of those, i've passed them 3 times but broken combo afterwards. I'm definately at the point where i can just have a good run and get 97% HR fc, but i'm not good enough to guarantee it and i'm not gonna try and force it, just practice a little. It'll be much easier with time.

Passing the first half of the map with strong accuracy and full combo is definately the hardest part for me though, the second set of star jumps are just a major skill/focus check when they arrive. By the time i FC this with strong accuracy, i imagine i will have had like 15 fails on the hardest star jump but 300 fails on the first half of the map, just due to edge to edge spacing and 165bpm ar10od10.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 07 2014 12:45 GMT
#5583
Good stream! Getting your skin was a bonus to watching though :3
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Rizare
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada592 Posts
September 07 2014 17:56 GMT
#5584
Welp, looks like I missed the stream.

To return to streams, it's still speed issue. Someone else I know did Eiji Kuinbii and apparently need to slow down to do well, whereas I need to increase the speed. One issue that seems to come up is how I can single tap fine with the main finger and it may have to do with the alternate finger being too slow since I don't use it often. For now, I'll attempt to single tap with the alternate finger instead or alternate easy maps.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
September 07 2014 18:24 GMT
#5585
On September 08 2014 02:56 Rizare wrote:
Welp, looks like I missed the stream.

To return to streams, it's still speed issue. Someone else I know did Eiji Kuinbii and apparently need to slow down to do well, whereas I need to increase the speed. One issue that seems to come up is how I can single tap fine with the main finger and it may have to do with the alternate finger being too slow since I don't use it often. For now, I'll attempt to single tap with the alternate finger instead or alternate easy maps.
It's not uncommon that people need to slow down in order to stream 153 bpm.
While it certainly is true that both fingers need to have a certain speed to stream at x bpm, don't make the mistake to think that being able to singletap both fingers at x bpm would necessarily mean that you can stream at x bpm or even near it. If that would be the case, i should have no trouble with 270 bpm, while i cant even do 230 normally. It's not a bad idea at all to push the limits of both your fingers, just keep in mind that streaming needs practice aside from speed.
If you're having trouble streaming 150 bpm, it may be worth it to try to play 180/190 bpm intense songs (a lotof very short streams), so you at least get used to the speed, and after that practice streaming around 150/160 again. For me this works at 220 stream maps and 250 intense maps as well. Might be something to consider
Rizare
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada592 Posts
September 07 2014 19:00 GMT
#5586
I'll keep that tip in mind. And about single tapping, I tested it with Gold Dust and still looked fine compared to using the usual finger. I get streaming in general or else I wouldn't be able to do Marie-Luise (at least low BPM streams). That will take a while to be able to increase actual speed. It will be a great asset since I feel like this is holding me back more than being able to read AR9.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 20:46:11
September 07 2014 19:27 GMT
#5587
Gold dust is very slow as far as singles go, it's 177bpm half beat and it doesn't have any long chains where you have to hit button again and again and again and again and again back to back. It's entry level -ish, i think. There's a ton of maps at 200, 220, 240 - even some at ~270-280 or so with half beats that people single, so pushing speeds on both fingers is good.

Not sure what your speeds are, but i'l go check mine now. I used to be terrible with one finger and that fixed itself as i got faster, or i got faster because it fixed itself

edit: By "now" i usually mean "before i do anything else of note" which sadly sometimes means like an hour. Oops

Ok, i'l test next time i play. >.>
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Rizare
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada592 Posts
September 07 2014 20:54 GMT
#5588
Fastest song that won't kill me would be Hoshizora no Ima I think. Kinda shows you're pretty good if you consider Gold Dust to be slow. When it comes to technical explanations in music, it's better for me to not involve myself at all in those kind of discussion. No idea what's going on then.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
September 07 2014 21:19 GMT
#5589
240bpm is 240 beats in 60 seconds (4 beats per second)

240bpm half beat gives you two circles per beat, so it's a rate of 8 per second. Jumps are usually mapped half beat

240bpm quarter beat gives you four circles per beat, so it's a rate of 16 per second~ usually that's streams.

If you can't tap faster than 185 for single, you should keep working on it i think until you're more comfortable approaching 220-240
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
falconfan02
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States231 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 03:26:24
September 08 2014 03:26 GMT
#5590
I feel like I'm pretty close to another nice jump in skill. Been getting very close to beating 5 star songs, usually with 90%+ accuracy. Hopefully will be passing them by next week.

Also, I've found that I'm having trouble transitioning from streams. My fingers seemed to get locked up and don't know what the fuck to do for a second. Is the best way to fix this to just grind streamy maps? And if so, any suggestions?
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 04:14:08
September 08 2014 04:13 GMT
#5591
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/122605
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/47330
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/181253&m=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/191805&m=0
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/40368
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/36319
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/130092
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/104260
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/172688

Also most BMS maps are very streamy, and very difficult.

Might wanna check this out as well:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtMS8U9u-0dKdHBoTEdJc28yWkEzV3NxczlYRjlKWmc&usp=sharing#gid=0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtMS8U9u-0dKdFNwNEFPaWpOMkYza3g0SUVwVmZtS0E&usp=sharing#gid=0
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 19:07:38
September 08 2014 14:20 GMT
#5592
I saw yes, mystearica, tsuka, muya and lks in the lists. Insta approve.

Also, shoutout to red zone, best map ever.

Edit:Finally 80% :D
+ Show Spoiler +
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2015159


Edit2: Another vid: i was quite happy with the fc, but not quite with the acc, although (a little to my surprise) it was od10.
Rizare
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada592 Posts
September 09 2014 01:29 GMT
#5593
On September 08 2014 06:19 Cyro wrote:
240bpm is 240 beats in 60 seconds (4 beats per second)

240bpm half beat gives you two circles per beat, so it's a rate of 8 per second. Jumps are usually mapped half beat

240bpm quarter beat gives you four circles per beat, so it's a rate of 16 per second~ usually that's streams.

If you can't tap faster than 185 for single, you should keep working on it i think until you're more comfortable approaching 220-240

Hooray for my terrible reading comprehension. I was thinking of speed as the reaction time required to move the cursor quickly, whereas you were talking about BPM.

In that case, Demetori - Jehovah's YaHVeH by happy30 I guess? Mostly sliders. I have beaten some higher BPM songs, but they were not on the highest difficulty and thus I don't count them. There is Dark PHOENiX - Hiroari Shoots a Strange Bird at Lunactic by sjoy too. It's hard, but I can survive.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
September 09 2014 02:42 GMT
#5594


2:02 - 2:10

he actually hit the part where it jumps left right left right middle across the entire screen at that speed

wat
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 16:21:55
September 09 2014 05:43 GMT
#5595
Just changed some stuff in my skin, took waaaaaaaaaaaay longer than i'd like to admit but here it is:

[image loading]

I added the border, which shows the play area. I did it so that the middle of the circles on the very edge was lined up with it, then i made it ~7.8% wider and also taller by the same amount of pixels.

I had to scale my hitcircle AND hitcircleoverlay by 1.07x (i did this by resizing them in paint.net, scaling to 1.07, then changing the canvas size with the focus as the middle so that it cut top/bottom/left/right equally) so that they accurately represent.. the size of the actual hit area in the game. Who would have thought, i've been playing with hitcircles that don't represent the actual size of the area you can hit THIS ENTIRE TIME, not only on this skin but on quite a few others + Show Spoiler +
THIS SEEMS LIKE BASIC FUCKING SHIT TO ME, WOW ;p



How to i avoid losing a 1500 combo to a misread while i blink right before a new combo/pattern/etc starts? I have not figured that one out yet, it's almost inevitably catching me every time i go for those 2200 combos right now. My eyes are just closed for 0.1 seconds and everything goes to hell. Maybe i'm just not relaxed enough, because i have to keep my eyes closed for a little too long. I might be staring at the screen without blinking for like a whole minute, it's hard to keep track..




^1:30 - 1:45 very nice (:


Uploading another score now. If i get one more, i will have replaced 14 of my top 15 in the last three weeks, that feels soooo good~~~~~~



^197pp. Yorbon gogo SS? It's ~241 without hidden

Having the play area border helps me a bit i think for mentally dealing with cross screens, also it makes everything look closer together which is pretty weird. Circles being ~7% bigger is really awesome (seriously, why would people skin circles to be smaller than the area you can hit? gameplay>all..) but i think the biggest thing for me is being able to use a bigger cursor and maintain a similar cursor size to circle size ratio. That's nice. Bigger cursor is more stable and also much easier to cross-screen with


If i get one more, i will have replaced 14 of my top 15 in the last three weeks


Apparently i'm blind, i did however replace my entire top 10 though, and still 13 of my top 15~



[image loading]
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-10 10:58:29
September 10 2014 10:57 GMT
#5596
I just got 64pp from this score: [image loading] which is my third best top score. Still don't have a 300pp score yet, best I have is 270pp.

I'm basically reading water/slowly losing rank while getting scores like this:
[image loading]
[image loading]

Also, damnit I've already gotten a 2k combo numerous times. At least I finally broke 3600pp
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
September 10 2014 16:28 GMT
#5597
gz ;p

I think the 2000 combo might be referring to osu standard? I had that for ages and i only played mania like twice (long enough to figure out that four keys was too much for me to start with..)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Rizare
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada592 Posts
September 10 2014 22:09 GMT
#5598
Your skin is pretty neat, Cyro. Was the size a problem unique to your skin or does the default have it too?

Grats on being a carrier too.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-10 23:35:56
September 10 2014 23:35 GMT
#5599
AFAIK default and most others skin that way. I'm probably going to use 1.05x size instead of 1.07 in the future just because even though the hit timing indicators are FIXED now, it makes them awkward to read sometimes (it was a free boost to my reading though like reducing OD on everything i was at all reliant on the hit timer circle for..)

Maybe i can change that too.

I'm probably going to do the mod eventually to change hitcircles and make them disappear instantly when hit instead of having the fade out time, another change that seems obvious to me should be in the options without a pretty annoying workaround

ty
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 12:33:23
September 11 2014 12:33 GMT
#5600
FINALLY BEAT AN INSANE DIFFICULTY. WOO HOO.

[image loading]

edit: I also broke 100pp. lel.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
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