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Empyrean
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Empyrean
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On August 16 2009 07:04 Jayme wrote: I found SA to be hard as all hell. SA was easily up there or harder than Touhou 6 for me on Lunatic... and it had nothing to do with the fact that 6 doesn't show the hitbox... it was just hard. SA took me forever to beat on lunatic. One of the things that bothered me about SA was that I could never QUITE figure out where the hitbox began and ended on the "sun" type projectiles. Especially if they were different sizes. It took me freaking forever to even remotely get close to beating her. | ||
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
oh nvm i guess you don't need it anymore. I'll just leave it up for people who can't torrent. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On August 16 2009 07:18 Empyrean wrote: One of the things that bothered me about SA was that I could never QUITE figure out where the hitbox began and ended on the "sun" type projectiles. Especially if they were different sizes. It took me freaking forever to even remotely get close to beating her. The real problem was that the colors on those projectiles merged into each other. On every touhou before that it was pretty easy to tell where the hitbox was... the DARK part of the giant circle was going to kill you so you skimmed it and you were fine of course. It was even god damn worse because the last boss had a transition where the bastard sun projectiles SHRUNK and their hitbox did NOT shrink at the same rate as the projectiles did as they fell down. God I hated SA. I still haven't found the exact spot, I give them a far wider birth than any other projectile in any touhou game for sure. I play Touhou EoSD liberally though, "U.N Owen was her" is reason enough to fight flandre twice a day. Total Yukari fan here though so I'm pretty addicted to IN as well. | ||
tyr
France1686 Posts
Those nukes were so annoying. But it always made me laugh though. Nukes ? wtf SA is one of my favourite Touhou overall btw. My favourite favourite is still IN, and I don't know if there will ever be another touhou like that. Everything in that game is great. | ||
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Empyrean
16982 Posts
On August 16 2009 07:33 ZoW wrote: Here you go emp: [url blocked] oh nvm i guess you don't need it anymore. I'll just leave it up for people who can't torrent. Thanks very much but I'm now 74.7% done with downloading it from the torrent. And besides, now I have a torrent client haha Thanks again. | ||
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Empyrean
16982 Posts
"This application has failed to start because d3dx9_40.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem." | ||
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
On August 16 2009 08:31 Empyrean wrote: Fuckkkkkk "This application has failed to start because d3dx9_40.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem." Same happened to me. Just download the dll and put it in the folder with the game. I got it from here. | ||
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Empyrean
16982 Posts
sighhhhhhhhh Another two and a half hours for me. Oh well. | ||
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On August 16 2009 08:53 ZoW wrote: fuck curvy lasers own me fuck lunatic owns me. I don't know if it's because I'm slightly rusty or if it's because it's just freaking hard. I still don't quite understand how to get the UFO's to spawn life pieces but some of the stage 3 spell cards are insane on lunatic. Stage 4 was a huge mess in and of itself. But yea I can't do lunatic 1 CC or even 2 CC without understanding how the extra life mechanics work. EDIT: Ok I figured it out. 3 Green UFO's drop bomb pieces when their multiplier is full (IE they gather enough so the white circle is total filled out) 3 Red UFO's drop the life pieces I'm not too sure about 3 Blue and the Prismatic one... maybe higher score multplier? Also Sanae A is total love, I can already tell that's the character I'll be using the most. EDIT 2: OK I figured out what the Blue and Primatic one do and touhou wiki confirmed it. The max score multiplier for Blue UFO's is x8... which is the highest of all of them. Red is x1 Green x2 and Prismatic x4. So when I you get good enough to go for score you'll focus on getting blue ones. Also it's hard to miss the fact that Power items still spawn even after you have full power (also full power is freaking hard to get in UFO...) and that's because the prismatic UFO changes the objects it sucks in... IE any power items it sucks in becomes point items and vice versa. Those periods where you get a million power items in stage 4 now makes sense. This one has by far the most potential for highly strategic timing of UFO pieces... I am heavily interested already. That and it isn't exactly easy without all that >.> | ||
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Empyrean
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As for high score runs, it seems like there's a lot more variety and even luck involved in touhou 12 than with any previous touhou. Still waiting for my download to complete T_T | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
As for character, I only use Reimu A really, which is now so bad in comparison to Marisa's lasers, largely because Reimu is my all time favorite touhou character :p Though SanaeB is freaking amazing, I had issues with with Reimu A for the longest time, but with Sanae B I was just breezing through. | ||
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Empyrean
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Stage 5 boss was insanely easy, even on Lunatic difficulty. I died more on stage 4 boss to be honest. I used my first continue at stage 4 boss because I kept on dying <_<. I 1cc'd it on normal after dying in Lunatic. Extra stage is about what I'd expect from an extra stage, except I can't get past the second "real" spell card of the end boss. (so none of that easy UFO spinning shit). I dunno, I'll give it more time and see what else I think. Graphics and gameplay are top notch, although there aren't many memorable music themes from what I think. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On August 16 2009 11:47 Empyrean wrote: Ok wow, the UFO system was pretty difficult for me to grasp at the beginning...didn't really understand it until like stage 2 haha. Hmm, my first death was on the stage 3 boss (the one with the fists, right?) because I stupidly didn't think the fists were part of the attack so I literally stood under the first one and got smashed. Wow pretty stupid. Stage 5 boss was insanely easy, even on Lunatic difficulty. I died more on stage 4 boss to be honest. I used my first continue at stage 4 boss because I kept on dying <_<. I 1cc'd it on normal after dying in Lunatic. Extra stage is about what I'd expect from an extra stage, except I can't get past the second "real" spell card of the end boss. (so none of that easy UFO spinning shit). I dunno, I'll give it more time and see what else I think. Graphics and gameplay are top notch, although there aren't many memorable music themes from what I think. I thought the stage 5 boss on Lunatic was hard as hell, I had a much easier time with dealing with the stage 4 boss. That also comes from my weakness with lasers. In all Touhou games I was never really great at dodging lasers. Sure like everything up to hard difficulty I simply got too good to get killed by it but some of the intricate level 5 boss cards kinda messed me up. Stage 6 boss was so well done though. She had some amazing intricate spell cards... but Curvy Lasers + Marisa stars can go to hell. Marisa in IN was the most aggrivating boss ever because her star bullets didn't follow normal physics and now you're going to scroll a bunch of lasers left to right while shooting some stars at me? Thanks. Also I've noticed that this Touhou requires quite a bit more movement that you can't really do while focused than most before it. The rotating laser spell card in stage 5 and a few of the stage 6 ones. They caught me totally off guard and I had to haul ass all of a sudden or just die. This game literally THROWS lives at you if you know how to do it though. Getting 1 CC clears shouldn't be much of an issue. | ||
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Empyrean
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On August 16 2009 12:16 Empyrean wrote: Speaking of hauling ass... + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxXX5BaZs1E Lol yea but then again that's just hardmoding that card... you don't have to do it that way  Nue is one of the best extra stages bosses ever... in fact UFO's extra stage is really really fun and Nue gives off such Flandre vibes that I can't not love it. I have a feeling I will be playing this one a whole hell of a lot... and ZUN obviously still has creativity because of the patterns he thought of. Lasers morphing into bullets and back again etc etc... I loved it. Nue is also the first boss since freaking EoSD to SHIELD bombs so they don't hurt her on her own spell cards. I found that neat. Her survival spell card is going to be hellishly hard to capture though. Hours will go into that one. | ||
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tyr
France1686 Posts
Every extra stage final boss, and final level 6 boss spellcard is immune to bomb damage. Or did I miss something there ? But yeah, Nue's spellcard where lasers are morphing into bullets and back again is the spellcard where I die. Haha. I'll have to focus more to get past through. | ||
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Empyrean
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
what does shift do? I only know Z shoots simple shit and X is energy beam.. do you call the beam "bomb"? I cant even get through the first stage on normal difficulty lol | ||
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