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abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
February 02 2012 19:24 GMT
#19181
On February 03 2012 04:10 SilentchiLL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 02:52 abominare wrote:
On February 03 2012 02:50 ghost_403 wrote:
On February 03 2012 02:31 SilentchiLL wrote:

You guys always say that, but whenever I'm in open space I meet geniuses with creative ideas which are so highly intelligent that they seem completely retarded to me.


Either a master using drunken boxing or an idiot. In Eve, it's nearly impossible to distinguish the two until after the engagement.


Im usually impressed if they manage to fill all their core (lows and mids) slots.



[image loading]

Genius imo.




I'm keeping this as further proof of the mental deficiency of the average eve player. He did manage to fit all the slots though.
JJoNeEightY
Profile Joined December 2010
United States509 Posts
February 02 2012 21:10 GMT
#19182
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 03 2012 04:24 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 04:10 SilentchiLL wrote:
On February 03 2012 02:52 abominare wrote:
On February 03 2012 02:50 ghost_403 wrote:
On February 03 2012 02:31 SilentchiLL wrote:

You guys always say that, but whenever I'm in open space I meet geniuses with creative ideas which are so highly intelligent that they seem completely retarded to me.


Either a master using drunken boxing or an idiot. In Eve, it's nearly impossible to distinguish the two until after the engagement.


Im usually impressed if they manage to fill all their core (lows and mids) slots.



[image loading]

Genius imo.




I'm keeping this as further proof of the mental deficiency of the average eve player. He did manage to fit all the slots though.




tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19058 Posts
February 02 2012 21:29 GMT
#19183
On February 03 2012 04:24 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 04:10 SilentchiLL wrote:
On February 03 2012 02:52 abominare wrote:
On February 03 2012 02:50 ghost_403 wrote:
On February 03 2012 02:31 SilentchiLL wrote:

You guys always say that, but whenever I'm in open space I meet geniuses with creative ideas which are so highly intelligent that they seem completely retarded to me.


Either a master using drunken boxing or an idiot. In Eve, it's nearly impossible to distinguish the two until after the engagement.


Im usually impressed if they manage to fill all their core (lows and mids) slots.



[image loading]
Genius imo.




I'm keeping this as further proof of the mental deficiency of the average eve player. He did manage to fit all the slots though.

barely.....
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 21:37:58
February 02 2012 21:37 GMT
#19184
On February 03 2012 06:29 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 04:24 abominare wrote:
On February 03 2012 04:10 SilentchiLL wrote:
On February 03 2012 02:52 abominare wrote:
On February 03 2012 02:50 ghost_403 wrote:
On February 03 2012 02:31 SilentchiLL wrote:

You guys always say that, but whenever I'm in open space I meet geniuses with creative ideas which are so highly intelligent that they seem completely retarded to me.


Either a master using drunken boxing or an idiot. In Eve, it's nearly impossible to distinguish the two until after the engagement.


Im usually impressed if they manage to fill all their core (lows and mids) slots.



[image loading]

Genius imo.




I'm keeping this as further proof of the mental deficiency of the average eve player. He did manage to fit all the slots though.

barely.....


and that is what she said... badumtsss


Anyone has extra AF in saranen they wouldnt mind selling me ? Its going to take a couple days for my BF to get in and I cant jump clone back to my enyo for another 24h, which leaves me enough time to lose like 20.
Only ship I have right now is a dramiel but who wants to fly dramiels anymore...
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
February 02 2012 23:18 GMT
#19185
I'm flying a dram atm since I can't fly AF's
Moderator
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
February 02 2012 23:48 GMT
#19186
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So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
February 03 2012 15:31 GMT
#19187
Little gem from the EveO forums

+ Show Spoiler +
The Machariel is usually found fitted with a huge number of Gyros and Tracking enhancers when you search for fits, but below is what I was running with, it is over-tanked for sure, but I liked the warm fuzzy of getting shot at while running down enemy ships (you still have to be careful, but it is a very forgiving when you make mistakes) I just flew it around like a giant frigate, closing up to point blank range and melting BS RATS:

[Machariel, Overtanked]
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
100MN Afterburner II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Cap Recharger II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

EHP 57208 (this is on my skills which are not perfect 5s)

Cap stable at 43% with everything running (again, not perfect skills) which means you can worry about other things. if you turn off the AB or the XL shield booster evey now and then you can still be cap stable and eith lose the Cap recharger II in the mid and replace it with a web for Frigates/Spider drones that get too close or you can remove a cap relay from the lows and add another tracking enhancer or gyro (depending on skills)

I usually swap out one or both Invuls for rat specific hardeners (which are less resource intensive)

The drone link is to help run down longer range targets in level fours, especially when you start running down ships at over 525m/s you can sometimes out distance your drones working on other items.

Add drone typesof your liking, salt to taste.

I build this up with meta stuff initially as my skills were not good enough for some to the tech2 goodies so things like the X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield overload instead of the X-Large Shield Booster II and Beta Reactor Control in place of the Capacitor Power Relay II were done at some point.


TLDR- Here is a training Machariel while you get comfy with your new toy. It flies like a giant frigate and the drones can help bail you out if you screw it up.

-Mad


He did fit all the slots..
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 15:42:21
February 03 2012 15:41 GMT
#19188
I think ive seen worse, which i think says a lot.

also

@DarkeMaske 4,213 supers being flown total. 3,384 supercarriers, 829 titans. #tweetfleet

D= (nearly half of the # super carriers were made in the last year.)
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
February 03 2012 15:41 GMT
#19189
On February 04 2012 00:31 TurpinOS wrote:
Little gem from the EveO forums

+ Show Spoiler +
The Machariel is usually found fitted with a huge number of Gyros and Tracking enhancers when you search for fits, but below is what I was running with, it is over-tanked for sure, but I liked the warm fuzzy of getting shot at while running down enemy ships (you still have to be careful, but it is a very forgiving when you make mistakes) I just flew it around like a giant frigate, closing up to point blank range and melting BS RATS:

[Machariel, Overtanked]
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
100MN Afterburner II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Cap Recharger II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

EHP 57208 (this is on my skills which are not perfect 5s)

Cap stable at 43% with everything running (again, not perfect skills) which means you can worry about other things. if you turn off the AB or the XL shield booster evey now and then you can still be cap stable and eith lose the Cap recharger II in the mid and replace it with a web for Frigates/Spider drones that get too close or you can remove a cap relay from the lows and add another tracking enhancer or gyro (depending on skills)

I usually swap out one or both Invuls for rat specific hardeners (which are less resource intensive)

The drone link is to help run down longer range targets in level fours, especially when you start running down ships at over 525m/s you can sometimes out distance your drones working on other items.

Add drone typesof your liking, salt to taste.

I build this up with meta stuff initially as my skills were not good enough for some to the tech2 goodies so things like the X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield overload instead of the X-Large Shield Booster II and Beta Reactor Control in place of the Capacitor Power Relay II were done at some point.


TLDR- Here is a training Machariel while you get comfy with your new toy. It flies like a giant frigate and the drones can help bail you out if you screw it up.

-Mad


He did fit all the slots..


FINALLY! A way for me to kill BS SIZED RATS! omg.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
February 03 2012 16:00 GMT
#19190
Cael where is that thread
Moderator
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 18:29:00
February 03 2012 18:27 GMT
#19191
On February 04 2012 01:00 Firebolt145 wrote:
Cael where is that thread


GO RESCUE THEM FIREBOLT

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=51450&find=unread


Edit :

Guy wondering how to rig his mach

Large Aux Thrusters (plus 40 m/s speed)
Large Ionic Field Projector (95 km targeting range)
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell (better cap)

The dps rigs stack heavily with a lot of other dps stuff, so no real gain there, but maybe a tracking rig instead of the thrusters?

Decisions, decisions.
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
February 03 2012 22:01 GMT
#19192
I require the help of all EFT/PYFA battalwarlords and AF lovers

Im trying to decide what enyo to fly before i ship like 70000 of them in saranen


Setup 1 - Aeths enyo

+ Show Spoiler +
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
small accommodation vestment reconstructer I
peudoelectron containment field I

Limited 1mn Microwardrive I
x5 prototype engine enervator
j5b phased prototype warp scrambler

Light Neutron Blaster II - Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II - Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II - Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II - Void S
- Empty high slot -

Small hybrid burst aerator II
Small Algid Hybrid Administrations Unit II

Warrior II

Stats (using max damage ammo and heat, same for all 3 loadouts)

Dps : 500
EHP : 7088
Cap Last : 26s
Rep : 50dps
Tracking : 0.48959
Speed : 3390m/s

Requires +4% cpu


Setup 2 - Modification to Aeths Enyo

+ Show Spoiler +
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
co-processor I
damage control II

Limited 1mn Microwardrive I
x5 prototype engine enervator
j5b phased prototype warp scrambler

Light Ion Blaster II - Void S
Light Ion Blaster II - Void S
Light Ion Blaster II - Void S
Light Ion Blaster II - Void S
Small Nosferatu II

Small hybrid burst aerator II
Small Algid Hybrid Administrations Unit II

Warrior II

Stats (using max damage ammo and heat, same for all 3 loadouts)

Dps : 470
EHP : 7514
Cap Last : Stable at 68% with nos
Tracking : 0.51975
Speed : 3390m/s




Setup 3 - My current enyo

+ Show Spoiler +
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
200mm Reinforced Rolled tungsten
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Limited 1mn Microwardrive I
x5 prototype engine enervator
j5b phased prototype warp scrambler

Light Ion Blaster II - Void S
Light Ion Blaster II - Void S
Light Ion Blaster II - Void S
Light Ion Blaster II - Void S
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator (can be switched to Nos)

Small hybrid burst aerator II
Small Anciliary current router

Warrior II

Stats (using max damage ammo and heat, same for all 3 loadouts)

Dps : 409
EHP : 10190
Cap Last : 44s
Tracking : 0.51975
Speed : 3159m/s




I love Aeth's setup but I feeled an Enyo could really benefit from a nos in case you happen to find targets with neuts (vaga, cane, etc.) The modified setup serves the same purpose which is all out gank with a little more tank, a bit more tracking and the added nos, to a loss of 30 dps and some range (2.5 + 1.6 for neutrons, 2.1+1.3 for ions)


As far as my current loadout its fun for fighting 1v1, but feels not as strong for pulling frigs out of a group.

All those stats were without implants, a 75mil clone makes it even better.

So, opinions on those fits ? different fits ? No one cares ? Gallente OP ?

Discuss.
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 22:20:24
February 03 2012 22:18 GMT
#19193
Aeth's fit is fine if you're wanting to pull groups in null, you really don't want to drop guns down to ions. That fit is all about killing the suicidal tackle frig, you need to drop them fast. You actually probably have to be more careful with dedicated frigs looking to 1v1, but then again enyo is absolutely retarded
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 22:35:09
February 03 2012 22:31 GMT
#19194
On February 04 2012 07:18 abominare wrote:
Aeth's fit is fine if you're wanting to pull groups in null, you really don't want to drop guns down to ions. That fit is all about killing the suicidal tackle frig, you need to drop them fast. You actually probably have to be more careful with dedicated frigs looking to 1v1, but then again enyo is absolutely retarded


I just dont like the fact that you litteraly cant do anything else (or much else at least) with Aeths fit, my modification allows you to also solo some stupid vaga pilots and stuff like this.

The drop from neutrons to ions itself is only a loss of 30 dps and a bit of range for a gain in tracking, which I find not to be that bad but you guys probably know more about me when it comes to hybrids.(Ive also checked mainly with void so there might be a bigger difference when using CN anti or Null)

Aeths fit is also a total bitch to fit, requiring the T2 rig for cpu to guns AND a 4% implant.


Also, how much do we actually want that small armor rep (I understand its for coming back to fights), because by taking it off we could pop the same fit with a DCU II for a bit more ehp and a Co-pro which allows us to drop the t2 fitting rig and put in a tracking or range rig instead. (tracking rig puts up tracking to 0.563)

+ Show Spoiler +

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
damage control II
co-processor II

Limited 1mn Microwardrive I
x5 prototype engine enervator
j5b phased prototype warp scrambler

Light Neutron Blaster II - Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II - Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II - Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II - Void S
- Empty high slot -

Small hybrid burst aerator II
Small hybrid metastasis adju I

Warrior II

Stats (using max damage ammo and heat, same for all loadouts)

Dps : 500
EHP : 7514
Cap Last : 2 min 9s
Tracking : 0.563
Speed : 3390m/s

Requires +1% cpu



http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 23:28:33
February 03 2012 23:25 GMT
#19195
On February 04 2012 07:31 TurpinOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 07:18 abominare wrote:
Aeth's fit is fine if you're wanting to pull groups in null, you really don't want to drop guns down to ions. That fit is all about killing the suicidal tackle frig, you need to drop them fast. You actually probably have to be more careful with dedicated frigs looking to 1v1, but then again enyo is absolutely retarded


I just dont like the fact that you litteraly cant do anything else (or much else at least) with Aeths fit, my modification allows you to also solo some stupid vaga pilots and stuff like this.

The drop from neutrons to ions itself is only a loss of 30 dps and a bit of range for a gain in tracking, which I find not to be that bad but you guys probably know more about me when it comes to hybrids.(Ive also checked mainly with void so there might be a bigger difference when using CN anti or Null)

Aeths fit is also a total bitch to fit, requiring the T2 rig for cpu to guns AND a 4% implant.


Also, how much do we actually want that small armor rep (I understand its for coming back to fights), because by taking it off we could pop the same fit with a DCU II for a bit more ehp and a Co-pro which allows us to drop the t2 fitting rig and put in a tracking or range rig instead. (tracking rig puts up tracking to 0.563)

+ Show Spoiler +

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
damage control II
co-processor II

Limited 1mn Microwardrive I
x5 prototype engine enervator
j5b phased prototype warp scrambler

Light Neutron Blaster II - Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II - Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II - Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II - Void S
- Empty high slot -

Small hybrid burst aerator II
Small hybrid metastasis adju I

Warrior II

Stats (using max damage ammo and heat, same for all loadouts)

Dps : 500
EHP : 7514
Cap Last : 2 min 9s
Tracking : 0.563
Speed : 3390m/s

Requires +1% cpu





The problem is that you're going to need to either hunt near home or at least low/npc space with no repper. If getting fights near those kinds of locations is a non issue then by all means the repper doesn't really do anything for you. While Im a big fan of moar tracking, range is probably a better rig all around for this fit, with so little tank I'd imagine some of the tankier frig fits will give you issues. Luckily the more popular of those is a jag, who happens to blow past 5k range.

I think the plate ends up being more of a liability as it makes it more vulnerable to being kited or frankly cught by something you dont want to catch you, but if you do plate I really don't like the nano plate. 20-30dps may not sounds like much but can make a world of difference in the low ehp of a frig fight. Especially if you're expecting a blob.
JJoNeEightY
Profile Joined December 2010
United States509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 03:07:30
February 04 2012 00:06 GMT
#19196
I absolutely adore the rep, it's useful for more than just repairing between fights. It, contrary to what most people seem to think, actually adds quite a significant amount of tank; I spend a lot of time on grid with blobs of people trying to get tackle to come out to me, taking damage from stuff like autocannon hurricanes firing at me from 45k, etc, etc, and its absolutely invaluable for stuff like this. Also for engaging multiple targets in a row without leaving grid, its great.

I would love to have a nos oh so much, but the sacrifices I'd have to make to fit it are just too great.

Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 01:07:05
February 04 2012 00:46 GMT
#19197
Tengu down

This one was semi-whelped, warped to gate at 50 thinking the fight I was crashing in on was brawling on the gate, ended up landing in the middle of it all as one gang was warping off.

edit: yay for 3000 posts!
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Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
February 04 2012 01:05 GMT
#19198
Tengu attrition rate going through the roof as of a couple months back lol. Nice new icon btw firebolt :D
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
February 04 2012 01:07 GMT
#19199
On February 04 2012 10:05 Pufftrees wrote:
Tengu attrition rate going through the roof as of a couple months back lol. Nice new icon btw firebolt :D

Heh, compared to delve this is nothing.

I don't think I'll buy a new one for a while though.
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Critter
Profile Joined January 2011
United States196 Posts
February 04 2012 01:36 GMT
#19200
On February 03 2012 04:10 SilentchiLL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 02:52 abominare wrote:
On February 03 2012 02:50 ghost_403 wrote:
On February 03 2012 02:31 SilentchiLL wrote:

You guys always say that, but whenever I'm in open space I meet geniuses with creative ideas which are so highly intelligent that they seem completely retarded to me.


Either a master using drunken boxing or an idiot. In Eve, it's nearly impossible to distinguish the two until after the engagement.


Im usually impressed if they manage to fill all their core (lows and mids) slots.



[image loading]

Genius imo.




So how long does it take for this stuff to make sense?

Also, I realize you guys have the mentoring for newbies to learn, but I've got 2 days left in my contract at work and was wondering what would be the most useful stuff to study up on while I'm at work?
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