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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 00:36:05
August 02 2011 00:20 GMT
#14381
Could someone quickly check the Jita sell order price of Large and Medium CDFE's? Thanks.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42705 Posts
August 02 2011 01:30 GMT
#14382
On August 02 2011 01:00 TurpinOS wrote:
What part of space Def?

Personnaly, cant say im too thrilled about the new move, the only thing Ive heard about it so far is ''good pve, good pve and more good pve'' which I really cant be bothered about. I know its close to null but that doesnt necessarily mean good pvp. Still busy at work for another week though so Ill see how things are when im done with that..

Considerably better PvP than Odde. Less bear ganking but there are some seriously big and retarded looking fleets moving through the area. Also there is almost always some Outbreak guys trying to camp near EC- (where hisec meets null, big camp zone) which is 2j from us. PvP options are fantastic for all sizes of gang imo.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 01:38:37
August 02 2011 01:34 GMT
#14383
Hmm... I just checked the eve maps cause someone asked me a few questions about profitable small gang pvp regions...

Some questions for people who aren't perma-afk:

-What happened to the Morsus Mihi / Razor etc. block in the north? Where did those players migrate to?

-After Atlas exploded, did RA simply take all that space and are there any contestors atm?

-What is CVA nowadays?

-Anyone got an idea who lives in GW these days? Still only duck-town?

-I assume the block around Delve is all ex-BoB/Kenny, is it?

-Anyone know whats the diplo status between RA and AAA is atm?

-Anyone know if "South Command" Channel still exists, who's in there and if the "POS blue only"-policy still exists? (Basicly the South always used to run a NBSI policy, however to encourage PvP they kept non-agression pacts when it came to POSes. Basicly means constant action without any danger to the major power blocks). Same policy was active for everyone involved in "North Campaign" (post-invasions) and "Delve Command".

-Basicly "North Command" always ran NRDS for the whole block which made the north into the farm and PvE fest it used to be. Anyone know if that is still active for the Goon/Raiden/Whitenoise block?


Edit: Sarenen? lol, brings back memories. Horrible ones. Please kill Sage Evo when you're around Troll-territory. PvP in the North always was "Get in, get easy kills, gtfo from 100 men defense fleet"; - how is it nowadays? Fidelas Constans should make for fun PvP.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Byzantium
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States423 Posts
August 02 2011 01:46 GMT
#14384
On August 02 2011 10:34 r.Evo wrote:
Hmm... I just checked the eve maps cause someone asked me a few questions about profitable small gang pvp regions...

Some questions for people who aren't perma-afk:

-What happened to the Morsus Mihi / Razor etc. block in the north? Where did those players migrate to?

-After Atlas exploded, did RA simply take all that space and are there any contestors atm?

-What is CVA nowadays?

-Anyone got an idea who lives in GW these days? Still only duck-town?

-I assume the block around Delve is all ex-BoB/Kenny, is it?

-Anyone know whats the diplo status between RA and AAA is atm?

-Anyone know if "South Command" Channel still exists, who's in there and if the "POS blue only"-policy still exists? (Basicly the South always used to run a NBSI policy, however to encourage PvP they kept non-agression pacts when it came to POSes. Basicly means constant action without any danger to the major power blocks). Same policy was active for everyone involved in "North Campaign" (post-invasions) and "Delve Command".

-Basicly "North Command" always ran NRDS for the whole block which made the north into the farm and PvE fest it used to be. Anyone know if that is still active for the Goon/Raiden/Whitenoise block?


Edit: Sarenen? lol, brings back memories. Horrible ones. Please kill Sage Evo when you're around Troll-territory. PvP in the North always was "Get in, get easy kills, gtfo from 100 men defense fleet"; - how is it nowadays? Fidelas Constans should make for fun PvP.


MM/Razer/most of the old NC that isn't still on the map as goon pets got blown up in a summer campaign by the Drone Region Federation (The Russians) supported by PL. So basically Goons is versus Raiden/WN, very much not NRDS.

CVA is currently in the business of taking Sov in providence as NC. (one of the DRF supporters) moved north. If you look at the sov in that area, you'll also see Raiden, which is your ex-BoB/Kenny mainstays. As far as I know, Delve is a bunch of others/randoms/TEST pets, but I don't spend much time trying to cut through the standard EVE political bullshit to determine exactly who's who and what's going on.
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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
August 02 2011 02:05 GMT
#14385
mm razor are going counterclockwise and pewing here and there, not settling down anywhere yet.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19057 Posts
August 02 2011 06:31 GMT
#14386
So there we are, carebearing in deep null, minding our own business, when suddenly, DOMI. We fuck around for a bit trying to find it with a Probe. After a while Spikeee shows up in a cane and we decide to go for it. Kwark calls a glorious warp to the gate at zero oh yeah also someone scout the other side. Obviously this goes wonderfully and KwarK dies immediately as we get blabbed by Mael, Apoc, Baddon, Vaga.

Tune in next week for the epic conclusion. Same bat-time, same bat-channel!
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Inzek
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Chile802 Posts
August 02 2011 06:59 GMT
#14387
good pve op tbh
Stork FAN!!!
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42705 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 07:33:03
August 02 2011 07:32 GMT
#14388
Yeah, I'll elaborate. I really like the idea of fucking around in other people's space. I've been proposing it for a while in Molden but the only space near was GW and ER which both suck so that hasn't been an option. Now we're north I took the chance to infest the nearby region of Fade. In the spirit of space vermin I took us out there with a carrier loaded up with spare ships, useful mods, drones etc and a cloak. We went out with four drakes, a cane, a salvaging destroyer and a prober and found a nice empty corner of exceptionally high truesec to bear it. For the next hour or two we ran sanctums with the carrier, two 8/10 DED sites Chris probed down and did a lot of salvaging. The carrier's corporation hangar filled with loot, salvage and faction mods while we scored a lot of bounties but sadly got no escalations. However, that wasn't why we went down there.

The locals were 20j deep into friendly null and acted like it. Nou popped a nemesis and a buzzard which lit cynos on poses, something you'd never see in Odde where it's actually risky to be in space. We decided a lesson in 720 artycane might help them out. They also had a cane cruising around which was stupid enough to go for me with no scouting and their +2 local was dwarfed by our +4 so he was promptly abandoned by his friends and cut down. However some time later a domi which had been aimlessly milling around idled on a gate near us and I warped to it at 0 to jump and cut off the escape, having one minute old intel that the far side was clear. The gamble didn't pay off, the domi aggressed and neuted with a mael, geddon, baddon, nemesis, drake, vaga, myrm on the other side. -1 Drake and t1 fit probe for me. But if they wanted to bring it it was game on.

Carrier decloaked and spat out a new drake and a shitfit probing probe with a scram and microwarpdrive taken from salvaging loot. Carrier was logged off, links logged on, it was game time. We executed a classic nano jump through and burn off into their gatecamp and were rewarded by total chaos on their side. Chris locked their nemesis in a death embrace as drones swarmed over the pair of them and he quickly dropped leaving Chris warping out in structure. Their vagabond attempted pursuit and I called an overheat on him as he burned in to point us, began to turn as he realised what he'd just done and fell as Tofu anticipated his flight and followed him with the point. Their battleships were doing some serious ranged damage and I had to warp out, leaving the field in Tofu's competent hands. Before I landed again a minute later Tritan had lost his drake, apparently by attempting to heat his invulns he turned them off and didn't notice but I remember doing stupider things when I was new to PvP. However their drake had been dropped in reply and we were formed up into a proper nano array with four battlecruisers matching their four battleships and one battlecruiser volley for volley.
Our only remaining tackle risk was the 25k neuts of the domi so we focused on kiting those while the domi charged at us ahead of his friends. Chris promtply tackled the domi with his hero probe and they lost all momentum, the domi a sitting duck for target practice. Unfortunately by this point both Nou and Motbob had burned their guns out and Tofu and I were facing off against four ships alone. We dropped the myrm but my shields were in 4% while Tofu was in armour so we warped out to regroup. Local rang with the sound of "run bitches" but when we landed back on the field 90 seconds later with 2 limping ships and 2 drone dps only ships they were gone, leaving their dead unlooted and local ours.

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10291439


We then spent about 20 minutes salvaging and looting as we had so much loot from the field that we had to keep dropping more off in the carrier. And that is why I have brought us north.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
August 02 2011 07:38 GMT
#14389
On August 02 2011 16:32 KwarK wrote:
Yeah, I'll elaborate. I really like the idea of fucking around in other people's space. I've been proposing it for a while in Molden but the only space near was GW and ER which both suck so that hasn't been an option. Now we're north I took the chance to infest the nearby region of Fade. In the spirit of space vermin I took us out there with a carrier loaded up with spare ships, useful mods, drones etc and a cloak. We went out with four drakes, a cane, a salvaging destroyer and a prober and found a nice empty corner of exceptionally high truesec to bear it. For the next hour or two we ran sanctums with the carrier, two 8/10 DED sites Chris probed down and did a lot of salvaging. The carrier's corporation hangar filled with loot, salvage and faction mods while we scored a lot of bounties but sadly got no escalations. However, that wasn't why we went down there.

The locals were 20j deep into friendly null and acted like it. Nou popped a nemesis and a buzzard which lit cynos on poses, something you'd never see in Odde where it's actually risky to be in space. We decided a lesson in 720 artycane might help them out. They also had a cane cruising around which was stupid enough to go for me with no scouting and their +2 local was dwarfed by our +4 so he was promptly abandoned by his friends and cut down. However some time later a domi which had been aimlessly milling around idled on a gate near us and I warped to it at 0 to jump and cut off the escape, having one minute old intel that the far side was clear. The gamble didn't pay off, the domi aggressed and neuted with a mael, geddon, baddon, nemesis, drake, vaga, myrm on the other side. -1 Drake and t1 fit probe for me. But if they wanted to bring it it was game on.

Carrier decloaked and spat out a new drake and a shitfit probing probe with a scram and microwarpdrive taken from salvaging loot. Carrier was logged off, links logged on, it was game time. We executed a classic nano jump through and burn off into their gatecamp and were rewarded by total chaos on their side. Chris locked their nemesis in a death embrace as drones swarmed over the pair of them and he quickly dropped leaving Chris warping out in structure. Their vagabond attempted pursuit and I called an overheat on him as he burned in to point us, began to turn as he realised what he'd just done and fell as Tofu anticipated his flight and followed him with the point. Their battleships were doing some serious ranged damage and I had to warp out, leaving the field in Tofu's competent hands. Before I landed again a minute later Tritan had lost his drake, apparently by attempting to heat his invulns he turned them off and didn't notice but I remember doing stupider things when I was new to PvP. However their drake had been dropped in reply and we were formed up into a proper nano array with four battlecruisers matching their four battleships and one battlecruiser volley for volley.
Our only remaining tackle risk was the 25k neuts of the domi so we focused on kiting those while the domi charged at us ahead of his friends. Chris promtply tackled the domi with his hero probe and they lost all momentum, the domi a sitting duck for target practice. Unfortunately by this point both Nou and Motbob had burned their guns out and Tofu and I were facing off against four ships alone. We dropped the myrm but my shields were in 4% while Tofu was in armour so we warped out to regroup. Local rang with the sound of "run bitches" but when we landed back on the field 90 seconds later with 2 limping ships and 2 drone dps only ships they were gone, leaving their dead unlooted and local ours.

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10291439


We then spent about 20 minutes salvaging and looting as we had so much loot from the field that we had to keep dropping more off in the carrier. And that is why I have brought us north.


Lighting cynos with T2 frigs is something you should never see if you're doing simple logistics in your own territory =_=
Minastir
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland62 Posts
August 02 2011 08:37 GMT
#14390
On July 25 2011 17:43 Catch]22 wrote:
I'm trying to get into this, just started an Amarr guy, 'bout 5 days in now, but I'm really unsure what to do, I'm training skills and doing the newbiemissions but I'm really unsure about how racepicks, bloodline picks and academypicks affect me, and that sort of things always make me jittery. Could anyone fill me in? All i find while googling is people saying that it changed in 2008 with no mention of what it changed TO.

Just now just doing the newbiemissions and sporadically mining Veldspar every time i die in HoN/catch a break in Element TD, playing with you guys might sound like a blast, but what does it entail?

Race and bloodline used to give bonuses and penalties to your attributes and your background choice used to give you few basic skills, they've now replaced them with a free attribute remap every year + one for new characters. Also, instead of getting a preset skills depending on your background, they now give new characters a period of time where their skills train faster.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
August 02 2011 09:23 GMT
#14391
They no longer give that 100% boost for first 1m SP.
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Trollhammer
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore94 Posts
August 02 2011 10:24 GMT
#14392
So now that our move to the north is official, when do we get a jump freighter to move everyone's stuff to our new home? Or do we have to do that ourselves D:
After spider mines were all executed as traitors, someone strapped a firebat to a vulture and called it a hellion. - Ribbon
Minastir
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland62 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 10:40:06
August 02 2011 10:39 GMT
#14393
On August 02 2011 18:23 Firebolt145 wrote:
They no longer give that 100% boost for first 1m SP.

oh well, at leaast they removed the learning skills to make the beginning more bearable to new players
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
August 02 2011 10:47 GMT
#14394
Unless you have a lot of ships (like I do), try and pool together on your logistics. You can fill up to 350k of space which is enough for about 25 battlecruisers, plus some mods. Just use blackfrog and it'll become decently cheap.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19057 Posts
August 02 2011 13:40 GMT
#14395
On August 02 2011 19:24 Trollhammer wrote:
So now that our move to the north is official, when do we get a jump freighter to move everyone's stuff to our new home? Or do we have to do that ourselves D:

We can use the carrier and a cyno chain to get critical ships up to the new home, but it really is simpler to repackage everything and BF it up.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 14:17:06
August 02 2011 14:16 GMT
#14396
Haha, i love battleclinic for its retards.
Short explanation: battleclinic is a killboard where everybody can post their killmails and get ranked.
However its pointsystem is so extremely fucking retarded that #1 was a guy who only killed shuttles frigates and pods in amamake for months, not real pvp, just being a faggot.
So lately people have started posting fake killmails to drag retards like him down.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=lukka#losses


Hilarious :D

(bonus: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Garmon#losses )
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
August 02 2011 14:29 GMT
#14397
I require 1.4 bil. Someone give it to me quick!
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
August 02 2011 14:40 GMT
#14398
Also for caelum:
I roamed for about 10 jumps directly after downtime(the time with lowest activity) and found a sb gang shooting an ihub. Decided to go for it. After i killed 6 of them teh rest gtfoed but i had the raven pointed. However i had a hard time staying out of torp range (20km) while keeping him pointed (24km) and it didnt help that he was going faster than me with mwd off. Random bombers decloakedd here and there but everytime i had one of them locked and burned to him he would just warp off. So at some point i was out of cap and warped out.
All of them immediately started shooting thee ihub again, when suddenly a PL tengu lands on grid and they all cloak. I decide to try my luck. Didn't go too well, but if the pilgrim had helped me i think we couldve had taken him. Too bad he was too angry about the sbs and decided to help the tengu instead..
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10292674
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 14:47:55
August 02 2011 14:46 GMT
#14399
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=13935653

Alliance tourney prizes drop erebus it was on battle clinic it must be true

Edit: they drop 16.7 million erebuses actually or is it erebii?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
August 02 2011 15:16 GMT
#14400
I can't wait to come backkkk
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