On July 27 2011 17:01 Azro wrote:
end of story is that i either have to wait another week or buy the 80k from the market which would increase my loss even more.

Actually it's waiting that increases your loss. Mining is not free.

Remembers me of when I lost 10m of tags in a rifter to faction police, bought them again and lost in a noobship, then went "fuck I'm gonna get my Mael" and midway home remembered they web/scram so that could be a very bad idea.

TobZero

Germany493 Posts

July 27 2011 15:22 GMT

#14282

waiting doesnt cost me anything as the producing base of PI is running 24/7 and this is what actually generates isk from time. its not like i stop my other 16 planets until the other 4 have reproduced the lost goods. and i know mining is not free - but im not mining

Mandini

United States1717 Posts

July 27 2011 16:25 GMT

#14283

On July 27 2011 20:23 Firebolt145 wrote:
I think I had about 15 posts when I first joined. Don't remember if I had to undergo a quiz either.

You asked me how thorzain knew the MC's immortals were hallucinated in game 3 of that tsl match >.< (I knew it though :D)

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34507 Posts

July 27 2011 21:09 GMT

#14284

Yeah well chill would've failed that test :>

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

July 28 2011 00:15 GMT

#14285

On July 27 2011 20:23 Firebolt145 wrote:
I think I had about 15 posts when I first joined. Don't remember if I had to undergo a quiz either.

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but yeah same for me, I think I had about 10 posts?
KwarK "so you're a reallife friend of karah?"
me: "yeah we're living close to each other"
Kwark "in that case you can join npnp"

Warri

Germany3208 Posts

July 28 2011 01:10 GMT

#14286

Getting into trading is tough..
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..but i think i'm on a good way. :D
Decided that after 6months of PvE missionrunning its time for soe serious PvP trading.
Jita has a pretty small margin between buy and sell, so im looking to get standings on my trading alt with CN.
For that i flew into random Caldari missionhubs and some guy offered to give share for free.
After being in fleet for aobut 2 hours he managed to share me whole 2k lp (2 missions).
He does lvl4s for CN (like worst lp store) in a 1.0 system (worst you can have) in his dominix (worst killspeed ever?). Damn some people are clueless about pve :D

Pufftrees

2449 Posts

July 28 2011 01:16 GMT

#14287

You guys and your serious trading.

Just hit f5 and profit :D

motbob

United States12546 Posts

July 28 2011 01:53 GMT

#14288

I get to Sobaseki quickly and snag a +24m contract in Lonetrek. I get convoed.

BillNyeTheEVEguy > hello
Dbuke > how did you get to that first?
BillNyeTheEVEguy > in space, dram
BillNyeTheEVEguy > agility rigs, mods
Dbuke > I undocked first?
BillNyeTheEVEguy > shrug
Dbuke > lucky sod
*leaves*

How rude!

Then I try to send a message via contract:

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TerraTron

Canada137 Posts

July 28 2011 02:09 GMT

#14289

is planetary interaction worth it? I wasn't sure if i should bother training those skills or just trying my hand at trading.

Body_Shield

Canada3373 Posts

July 28 2011 02:22 GMT

#14290

Depends on how long they take to train, give it a shot if it's fairly short.

pahndah

1193 Posts

July 28 2011 03:56 GMT

#14291

This is what my hanger looks after a week of contracting.

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Sitting on about 30 mil across all my toons now, and haven't resold a single item yet. Still 2 days until I get IV accounting. Also, looking for someone that can build IN Eanms. Brag post completed.

iRaYP

Scotland66 Posts

July 28 2011 04:35 GMT

#14292

Ive never played this game but i love reading this thread! Makes Eve sound so exciting xD

Jayme

United States5866 Posts

July 28 2011 04:38 GMT

#14293

I think I can build in enams....at least one of my characters can. I barely log in anymore though

pahndah

1193 Posts

July 28 2011 04:52 GMT

#14294

Well if that account is still subscribed we should work something out Jayme. Materials and build time of the things are dirt cheap and short.

Also serious trading is for tryhards. Just got to believe that the average Eve player is lazy and make mistakes. Most of my contracts were obtained watching GSL.

Jayme

United States5866 Posts

July 28 2011 05:04 GMT

#14295

On July 28 2011 13:52 pahndah wrote:
Well if that account is still subscribed we should work something out Jayme. Materials and build time of the things are dirt cheap and short.

Also serious trading is for tryhards. Just got to believe that the average Eve player is lazy and make mistakes. Most of my contracts were obtained watching GSL.

I have for account s that are subbed for another year or so. My money is staying stable through big item trading and the huge stack of minerals I still possess so I just plex an account whenever I gain another 500m or so. Subbed accounts not a problem.

I'll let you know. What are the skills required for in enams anyway?

pahndah

1193 Posts

July 28 2011 05:21 GMT

#14296

Hydro mag physics I, Nanite enginerring I, Indy V are the skills needed.

Kwidowmaker

Canada978 Posts

July 28 2011 06:55 GMT

#14297

What is an enam

Golgotha

Korea (South)8418 Posts

July 28 2011 07:04 GMT

#14298

On July 28 2011 13:35 iRaYP wrote:
Ive never played this game but i love reading this thread! Makes Eve sound so exciting xD

join. it's fun :D

Kezzer

United States1268 Posts

July 28 2011 07:28 GMT

#14299

Are there any covert ops ships that are useful in fights? Or are they all pure intel

TobZero

Germany493 Posts

July 28 2011 07:46 GMT

#14300

On July 28 2011 11:09 TerraTron wrote:
is planetary interaction worth it? I wasn't sure if i should bother training those skills or just trying my hand at trading.

depends on what you want to get from it. my network is currently setup to produce 40million a day. but thats 5 chars with 4 planets each and needs daily care.

and i yesterday i ran into another issue:
im starting to doubt that i will be happy with PI in the long therm. while my whole plan and setup works out quite well i ran into things i didnt calculate beforehand.
lets list the good things first
- training all chars took only a week for minmatar industrial 4 / interplanetary interaction 4 / command center upgrades 4
- the planets and systems around isto are rich of minerals, especaily half which is a 0.2 system
- until today i invested about ~60milion isk for all characters overall (meaning skillbooks, haulerships, planet setup) and the value of the P1 materials currently in corphanger are close to 300million isk

now the bad things

- taking care for 20 planets on 5 chars on 4 accounts gets BORING as hell fast. the acutall time investment per day isnt that high (calcuated with ~6-7minutes per char/day - is about 10minutes) but you really have to do it every day at the same time again and again
- the biggest downer overall and the reason i think this will not be good over time is that i dry out the planets FAST. here are some numbers.

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as you can see the extraction for unit/h droped MASSIV over the last 3 days. if i cant find a way to stop this the whole project will probably fail.
with those low extraction numers i would have to buy a lot of P1 from the market to substain my advanced refining line. in addition i probably need to put a lot more time into maintaining the planets.
overall this leads to maybe 20-30million a day and this is NOT worth my time.

so where to make money?
right now im back to exploration which i like and is fun. yesterday i sold my first wormhole which got me 220million isk. the whole time it took me to find the wh, check it and list it on the forum was about 2hours overall = 110m/h which is a good rate.
of course this is a bit luck based but as i found a few radar sites to which are worth ~20-30m each its a nice business.
i still have to find a good combat site the see how much is can be made there

On July 28 2011 16:28 Kezzer wrote:
Are there any covert ops ships that are useful in fights? Or are they all pure intel

you could be usefull. a few weeks ago when we fought the carrier group i was there in my covert and target painted and sensor damended. im sure i could have been a lot more usefull in another ship there but its better than nothing. my killboard:
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=909825

overall i think a covops is more usefull for the gang if he keeps an eye on the neighbour systems while the fight is going on. you are a ship for gaining intel and not for combat so your more usefull providing intel ... simple logic^^