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On January 30 2011 03:54 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2011 03:22 KwarK wrote:
He hadn't made a single post outside this topic. Clearly he brings nothing to this topic so I had no issue with removing him. On an unrelated note, I agree with tboy tofu. Based on previous intel, there was a vaga+rifter in emol. My plan was to scout with my alt in a shuttle (successful). If engaged by the Rifter, I could pop it and warp off/jump/whatever. If they sat on the other side, I'd have help (at the time, there was another Drake and another corp member in Ammold with me, both active, and tboy and someone else in emol, also active, which is 5-1, leading me to believe we might be able to do something). When I scouted, it was Cane+phoon. The phoon jumped and scrammed me. I asked for help, and tboy said "you deserve to die". Nobody else responded. Of the 6 active people in the area, all I got was one telling me to go fuck myself. At this point, I got bumped by the phoon, so I launched attacked. Cane jumped and webbed me, so now burning away or crashing gate (original plan) isn't possible. I switched aggro to the cane, and apparently scared it away since it deaggressed and jumped back to emol. At this point I'm in armor, and I've been bumped again (gj by the phoon pilot btw, whoever you are). All I can do now is tell tboy he's a dick and ask myself "of 5 other active corp mates in the immediate area, why have none responded?" And you agree with tboy? Fuck that. And now, a question for you Pick any combination of the following for a total of 5 responses to the question "can I get help": 1. I am not in the area, you're on your own 2. I do not have a ship capable of helping you, you're on your own 3. I do not know what to do, you're on your own 4. I'm on my way, hold on 5. You deserve to die 6. Dead silence If you picked 5 or 6 at all, you are a douche bag. In reality, the responses I got were 5, 6, 6, 6, 6. It was 6 to 1. There was at least 1 additional Drake in system with me. Even 2 PvE Drakes should be fine against a phoon. Instead, I died.
To be fair how certain are you the other 4 were not just afk at station doing other things like watching streams , TV or just any general form of AFK.
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Hyrule19264 Posts
On January 30 2011 04:03 Marradron wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2011 03:54 tofucake wrote:On January 30 2011 03:22 KwarK wrote:
He hadn't made a single post outside this topic. Clearly he brings nothing to this topic so I had no issue with removing him. On an unrelated note, I agree with tboy tofu. Based on previous intel, there was a vaga+rifter in emol. My plan was to scout with my alt in a shuttle (successful). If engaged by the Rifter, I could pop it and warp off/jump/whatever. If they sat on the other side, I'd have help (at the time, there was another Drake and another corp member in Ammold with me, both active, and tboy and someone else in emol, also active, which is 5-1, leading me to believe we might be able to do something). When I scouted, it was Cane+phoon. The phoon jumped and scrammed me. I asked for help, and tboy said "you deserve to die". Nobody else responded. Of the 6 active people in the area, all I got was one telling me to go fuck myself. At this point, I got bumped by the phoon, so I launched attacked. Cane jumped and webbed me, so now burning away or crashing gate (original plan) isn't possible. I switched aggro to the cane, and apparently scared it away since it deaggressed and jumped back to emol. At this point I'm in armor, and I've been bumped again (gj by the phoon pilot btw, whoever you are). All I can do now is tell tboy he's a dick and ask myself "of 5 other active corp mates in the immediate area, why have none responded?" And you agree with tboy? Fuck that. And now, a question for you Pick any combination of the following for a total of 5 responses to the question "can I get help": 1. I am not in the area, you're on your own 2. I do not have a ship capable of helping you, you're on your own 3. I do not know what to do, you're on your own 4. I'm on my way, hold on 5. You deserve to die 6. Dead silence If you picked 5 or 6 at all, you are a douche bag. In reality, the responses I got were 5, 6, 6, 6, 6. It was 6 to 1. There was at least 1 additional Drake in system with me. Even 2 PvE Drakes should be fine against a phoon. Instead, I died. To be fair how certain are you the other 4 were not just afk at station doing other things like watching streams , TV or just any general form of AFK.
They were talking about 30 seconds before I asked for help.
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Lalalaland34507 Posts
I don't know 100% of the circumstances, but from what I gather you should've checked before hand if people were ready to engage before rushing in then shouting for backup. I generally ask for X up in fleet if you're not afk, join my fleet in finder, and get on TS before ever going for an engagement that I'm not 100% sure I can take solo.
edit: Talking in fleet and ready for engagement are different things.
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I just lost my ship. Not sure what I did wrong. Maybe I'm confused but doesn't a invulnerability hardener make you invincible for the duration they are active?
I had my invulnerability field fitted. I warped to the mission. I take aggro, and I'm taking heavy damage. I'm at 50% shields so I turn on my invulnerability field. This is were I have problems because the module is broke or I'm doing it wrong. I continue to take major damage as if the invulnerability field isn't working. Shouldn't it stop all of the damage I'm taking and make me invincible for short amounts of time?
User was warned for this post
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On January 30 2011 04:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
I don't know 100% of the circumstances, but from what I gather you should've checked before hand if people were ready to engage before rushing in then shouting for backup. I generally ask for X up in fleet if you're not afk, join my fleet in finder, and get on TS before ever going for an engagement that I'm not 100% sure I can take solo.
I didn't really have time to get a fleet going. And one guy (Adelith or something?) was asking about a scout anyways. And I didn't rush in. I told people a couple minutes before that I was going to go scout. I got some acknowledgements from that. Right as I jumped my shuttle into emol, dude landed on gate and jumped. I hit warp to station on my Drake, but I was not up to speed (aligned but not moving plegh) and got tackled. My plan wasn't to engage, it was to get through and dock, and have some support if absolutely necessary (hint: it was), but the asshats just sat there. They didn't say "no, not coming" or jack shit. Nothing. Isn't that the sort of thing people are fined or killed for (TBOY) if they do on an op?
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On January 30 2011 04:11 Ten Tron wrote:
I just lost my ship. Not sure what I did wrong. Maybe I'm confused but doesn't a invulnerability hardener make you invincible for the duration they are active?
I had my invulnerability field fitted. I warped to the mission. I take aggro, and I'm taking heavy damage. I'm at 50% shields so I turn on my invulnerability field. This is were I have problems because the module is broke or I'm doing it wrong. I continue to take major damage as if the invulnerability field isn't working. Shouldn't it stop all of the damage I'm taking and make me invincible for short amounts of time?
It adds 25% resistences. It does not make you invincible.
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On January 30 2011 04:11 Ten Tron wrote:
I just lost my ship. Not sure what I did wrong. Maybe I'm confused but doesn't a invulnerability hardener make you invincible for the duration they are active?
I had my invulnerability field fitted. I warped to the mission. I take aggro, and I'm taking heavy damage. I'm at 50% shields so I turn on my invulnerability field. This is were I have problems because the module is broke or I'm doing it wrong. I continue to take major damage as if the invulnerability field isn't working. Shouldn't it stop all of the damage I'm taking and make me invincible for short amounts of time?
._. I don't see the point of this lol.
EDIT: They get fined or killed if they stop responding while they are actually IN the op.
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 30 2011 03:54 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2011 03:22 KwarK wrote:
He hadn't made a single post outside this topic. Clearly he brings nothing to this topic so I had no issue with removing him. On an unrelated note, I agree with tboy tofu. Based on previous intel, there was a vaga+rifter in emol. My plan was to scout with my alt in a shuttle (successful). If engaged by the Rifter, I could pop it and warp off/jump/whatever. If they sat on the other side, I'd have help (at the time, there was another Drake and another corp member in Ammold with me, both active, and tboy and someone else in emol, also active, which is 5-1, leading me to believe we might be able to do something). When I scouted, it was Cane+phoon. The phoon jumped and scrammed me. I asked for help, and tboy said "you deserve to die". Nobody else responded. Of the 6 active people in the area, all I got was one telling me to go fuck myself. At this point, I got bumped by the phoon, so I launched attacked. Cane jumped and webbed me, so now burning away or crashing gate (original plan) isn't possible. I switched aggro to the cane, and apparently scared it away since it deaggressed and jumped back to emol. At this point I'm in armor, and I've been bumped again (gj by the phoon pilot btw, whoever you are). All I can do now is tell tboy he's a dick and ask myself "of 5 other active corp mates in the immediate area, why have none responded?" And you agree with tboy? Fuck that. And now, a question for you Pick any combination of the following for a total of 5 responses to the question "can I get help": 1. I am not in the area, you're on your own 2. I do not have a ship capable of helping you, you're on your own 3. I do not know what to do, you're on your own 4. I'm on my way, hold on 5. You deserve to die 6. Dead silence If you picked 5 or 6 at all, you are a douche bag. In reality, the responses I got were 5, 6, 6, 6, 6. It was 6 to 1. There was at least 1 additional Drake in system with me. Even 2 PvE Drakes should be fine against a phoon. Instead, I died. [edit] http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8706408Not sure why the Mammoth is on there. I'd already docked up after killing it, and was at full shields when I got tackled.
Honestly sounds like you deserved to die. Hell if I was online when this happened I might have helped the WTs kill you.
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The phoon pilot was me, and it went slightly different, but there wasen't much you could do as soon as you warped to the gate with the Drake.
Next time, align to the gate when your shuttle jumps through. If it's clear, keep the shuttle there as you warp the drake to make sure the other side is clear, and if people start landing, poop your pants and warp to a celestial near the front of your ship.
Also phoons have slow locking times and even slower speed, so if you had a MWD fitted you could have aligned and burned out. Or even just warped out. I didn't have a sebo fitted.
Sorry tofu, but all's fair in love and war <3
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So,
1. You warped to a gate with WT instead of docking
2. You ''thought'' you would have backup so thats why you went for it
3. You didnt try to burn out of a phoon and then warp when the cane was stucked on the other side
4. yeeeeeeeeeee tboy youre dumb as fuck
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On January 30 2011 05:21 Firebolt145 wrote:
wasn't tboy was tofu lol
something tells me you didnt understand the sarcasm thur
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On January 30 2011 05:00 Mike Ditka wrote:
The phoon pilot was me, and it went slightly different, but there wasen't much you could do as soon as you warped to the gate with the Drake.
Next time, align to the gate when your shuttle jumps through. If it's clear, keep the shuttle there as you warp the drake to make sure the other side is clear, and if people start landing, poop your pants and warp to a celestial near the front of your ship.
Also phoons have slow locking times and even slower speed, so if you had a MWD fitted you could have aligned and burned out. Or even just warped out. I didn't have a sebo fitted.
Sorry tofu, but all's fair in love and war <3
The hell are you talking about Phoons are slow?
They are the fastest battleships in the game bar the machariel. Granted they are armor tanked so a bit slower but don't imply that the Typhoon is a brick...because it's not. Their lock time isn't really any slower than any other BS so they are always going to be able to lock and scram a drake before it's able to warp out and as long as the drake is in Neut range the drake won't be outrunning shit.
Then again I don't know if you carry neuts or not on your phoon...If not then yes things can get away from you.
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No neuts, quad plated, trimarked. It turns so slow it's pathetic. When it's fit like that it's a brick. The cane jumped in first, then bumped tofu, tofu agressed, I jumped in and pointed, cane warped out (lol), MWD bump with a lot of mass due to drake not moving, drake down. No scram or web, I got long point, ECCM, MWD, Cap booster.
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phoon
no neuts
no web no painter
quad plates
incredible
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On January 30 2011 07:48 WiljushkA wrote:
phoon
no neuts
no web no painter
quad plates
incredible
Where are the salvagers? You have 3 utility highs use them correctly.
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Russian Federation3632 Posts
Lol at ~Dark Horses~
*kill a bunch of PvE ships*
*are excellent highsec pvpers*
*loses vagabonds with mag stabs on them*
Good work sires.
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Hyrule19264 Posts
On January 30 2011 05:07 TurpinOS wrote:
So,
1. You warped to a gate with WT instead of docking
2. You ''thought'' you would have backup so thats why you went for it
3. You didnt try to burn out of a phoon and then warp when the cane was stucked on the other side
4. yeeeeeeeeeee tboy youre dumb as fuck
1. I've gone through this.
2. I've gone through this.
3. I did. Was PvE fit.
4. I agree
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On January 30 2011 07:48 WiljushkA wrote:
phoon
no neuts
no web no painter
quad plates
incredible
Now all it needs is a cap booster to keep those plates stable... oh wait.
Still not as good as 6plate double repper geddon though, but you're on the right track my friend :>
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