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KwarK
United States42685 Posts
pm me what you want done and what my deadline is | ||
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KwarK
United States42685 Posts
On December 06 2010 23:51 Malderon wrote: Then the question is, is it achievable for the corp to get an orca and an active group of miners? In terms of skills, I could get to being able to fly an orca when I get my learning skill SP refunded. Coughing up the necessary isk will be more problematic though :p. Not to mention the fact that my skills in mining would be kind of wasted, so I'd rather keep using my Hulk. If I still have access to corp finances in a week this is something I'll happily invest in. Motbob is currently seizing all the liquidity for his own vile purposes but worst case scenario I'll invest in you myself. | ||
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KwarK
United States42685 Posts
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Icx
Belgium853 Posts
+you have the fact that it's 0.0 space without local. These are points that you can work around, having alts scout out the connected systems, having alts at those connected system, etc. The biggest problem of all is mass: So a c1/c2 exit can take around 2 orca jumps back and forth, not counting all the miners and so on. So going into a wormhole with a gravi, mining it out (or just the abc ores) and then packing everything up and leaving isn't really that feasible since you just can't get everything out again, so your basicly stuck having to wait for a new wormhole to open to preferrably HS (and a good change that that will lead to a place on the other side of k-space of where you want to be). So that leaves 1 other option for the lower classes: Set up a pos with a refinery, but again if your just going to mine out that one gravi (and trust me, running into these things is quite rare, like one gravi every two weeks or so, and you can't rely on connected systems, because again you run into mass-problems) you prolly want a small/medium pos, and the refinery's for that suck hard. The only good way we managed to mine out the gravi sites in our home system wich was a class 5 (indy alts) was basicly to have a rorqual that compressed the ore to haul it out when an exit opened up. So ye, my opinion about wh-space mining, unless your living in a system and have everything set up for it, it's just not really worth it, in all those hours of probing, scouting, setting up stuff, waiting for exits to open, or refining at crappy percentages, risks of getting ganked (and yes even if your extremely carefull, they do happen in wh-space), you could have run good well-organized mining ops in high-sec with orca support, and altough you would have generated less isk/h, it's a steady income. I personally prefer making 5mil/hour whenever I want, then to earn 0mil/h untill I get lucky and I get 20mil/h for 2 hours (just making up some numbers). Is it possible? yes, but I would advise starting out small and doing a bunch of HS mining ops (I mean, the person that said something about the orca couldn't get the isk for it, and don't fly what you can't afford to lose, in this case, don't take that thing into wh-space untill you have spare cash to replace it), and then just expanding from there, getting some general industry running and then from there on you can always have a look at expanding into wh-space mining. But even then it's more of a corp/group-activity, since most of the time that will mean living there (for either short time, or permanently) so you will need to have some pvp'ers there, and people that can clear spawns/combat sites that are there, since it's a waste having those and not using them :p edit: and about the orca, don't forget about all the leadership skills, yes it's a very good platform to scoop cans, but it's mainly about the bonuses it gives, so you will have to be the fleet commander, and depending on the size of the fleet, you will need to have the needed leadership skills. Then aside from that you want mining director/foreman at 5 and you prolly also want a mining foreman mindlink | ||
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
I've come across Large Kernite sites before that had over 1mil m3 worth of Kernite in them (having dozens of 30-50k kernite roids of all types). Jaspet and Omber should be avoided, but Hemorphite is worth as much as Kernite and Hedbergite is worth *slightly* more. (not worth the low-sec risks, but decent enough to mine in a high-sec grav site) | ||
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Ahelvin
France1866 Posts
Just a post to tell you guys I'm having some exams to deal with ATM, and that I'll be back soon with T2 turrets trained and my lovely rifter ! Looking forward to learn more with you, Best of luck in the war ! | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19054 Posts
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KwarK
United States42685 Posts
Score is roughly 310m kill, 190m loss plus we got loot etc. | ||
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KwarK
United States42685 Posts
[16:46:06] ZxZXWizi > hello [16:46:12] Wrathful Penguins > lo [16:46:53] ZxZXWizi > i have some information to sell if interested [16:47:23] Wrathful Penguins > and what is it? [16:47:54] ZxZXWizi > just how your current war targets are getting information on you [16:48:00] Wrathful Penguins > from our forum [16:48:04] Wrathful Penguins > where it's publicly available [16:48:13] Wrathful Penguins > and our public channel [16:48:27] ZxZXWizi > nope [16:49:02] ZxZXWizi > they have two sources [16:49:03] Wrathful Penguins > you're gonna have to give me a little more than that then [16:50:00] ZxZXWizi > look closely at your members and also watch what u say online [16:50:24] Wrathful Penguins > and how do i tell the difference between you [16:50:30] Wrathful Penguins > and a guy who has noticed peopel are at war [16:50:34] Wrathful Penguins > and wants to make some easy isk [16:50:47] Wrathful Penguins > either give me something and i'll decide if it's valuable or fuck off [16:51:01] Wrathful Penguins > because as far as i can tell this is a weak ass scam attempt [16:51:14] ZxZXWizi > well its about trust thats all i can really say ... [16:51:22] Wrathful Penguins > and i trust my corp members more than you [16:51:30] ZxZXWizi > ill contact you and give you more details for now i gotta run [16:51:32] Wrathful Penguins > because you've given me nothing to work with [16:51:34] Wrathful Penguins > lol [16:51:36] Wrathful Penguins > sure [16:51:40] Wrathful Penguins > run along [16:52:04] ZxZXWizi > i just give you this first [16:52:11] ZxZXWizi > dont post on your forums [16:52:17] Wrathful Penguins > er [16:52:21] ZxZXWizi > they are public u know teamliquid [16:52:21] Wrathful Penguins > i just said they read our forum [16:52:26] Wrathful Penguins > they've openly told us they read our forum [16:52:32] Wrathful Penguins > what you have in fact just given me as a token [16:52:43] ZxZXWizi > also they have a source inside [16:52:45] Wrathful Penguins > is that they read the public forum linked in our corp description [16:52:56] ZxZXWizi > so you can post location where u may be and they will jump to it [16:53:06] Wrathful Penguins > a source inside what? [16:53:15] ZxZXWizi > ur corp m8 [16:53:53] Wrathful Penguins > yeah [16:53:56] ZxZXWizi > i gotta run now... [16:53:58] Wrathful Penguins > you're gonna have to be more specific [16:53:59] Wrathful Penguins > sure you do [16:54:26] ZxZXWizi > just watch ur m8s [16:54:41] Wrathful Penguins > just watch your fuck the hell off | ||
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Belgo
United States721 Posts
On December 07 2010 01:55 KwarK wrote: + Show Spoiler [SPAI] + [16:46:06] ZxZXWizi > hello [16:46:12] Wrathful Penguins > lo [16:46:53] ZxZXWizi > i have some information to sell if interested [16:47:23] Wrathful Penguins > and what is it? [16:47:54] ZxZXWizi > just how your current war targets are getting information on you [16:48:00] Wrathful Penguins > from our forum [16:48:04] Wrathful Penguins > where it's publicly available [16:48:13] Wrathful Penguins > and our public channel [16:48:27] ZxZXWizi > nope [16:49:02] ZxZXWizi > they have two sources [16:49:03] Wrathful Penguins > you're gonna have to give me a little more than that then [16:50:00] ZxZXWizi > look closely at your members and also watch what u say online [16:50:24] Wrathful Penguins > and how do i tell the difference between you [16:50:30] Wrathful Penguins > and a guy who has noticed peopel are at war [16:50:34] Wrathful Penguins > and wants to make some easy isk [16:50:47] Wrathful Penguins > either give me something and i'll decide if it's valuable or fuck off [16:51:01] Wrathful Penguins > because as far as i can tell this is a weak ass scam attempt [16:51:14] ZxZXWizi > well its about trust thats all i can really say ... [16:51:22] Wrathful Penguins > and i trust my corp members more than you [16:51:30] ZxZXWizi > ill contact you and give you more details for now i gotta run [16:51:32] Wrathful Penguins > because you've given me nothing to work with [16:51:34] Wrathful Penguins > lol [16:51:36] Wrathful Penguins > sure [16:51:40] Wrathful Penguins > run along [16:52:04] ZxZXWizi > i just give you this first [16:52:11] ZxZXWizi > dont post on your forums [16:52:17] Wrathful Penguins > er [16:52:21] ZxZXWizi > they are public u know teamliquid [16:52:21] Wrathful Penguins > i just said they read our forum [16:52:26] Wrathful Penguins > they've openly told us they read our forum [16:52:32] Wrathful Penguins > what you have in fact just given me as a token [16:52:43] ZxZXWizi > also they have a source inside [16:52:45] Wrathful Penguins > is that they read the public forum linked in our corp description [16:52:56] ZxZXWizi > so you can post location where u may be and they will jump to it [16:53:06] Wrathful Penguins > a source inside what? [16:53:15] ZxZXWizi > ur corp m8 [16:53:53] Wrathful Penguins > yeah [16:53:56] ZxZXWizi > i gotta run now... [16:53:58] Wrathful Penguins > you're gonna have to be more specific [16:53:59] Wrathful Penguins > sure you do [16:54:26] ZxZXWizi > just watch ur m8s [16:54:41] Wrathful Penguins > just watch your fuck the hell off I don't know... Why would they have a 15+ gate camp on the Teon-Gel gate? *dramatic sting* Gasp! | ||
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OPSavioR
Sweden1465 Posts
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tHornstein
United Kingdom201 Posts
On December 07 2010 01:55 KwarK wrote: thornton micros like a boss and stays in the fight, neuting + killing a stiletto as it tackles him and then finishing off the cane as he dies. Just to fix this, I killed the cane and was 20km away from anything that could do significant damage to me with a stiletto on me. I neuted/raped the fuck out of the stiletto and being prealigned to the sun I could have gtfo'd at will. However at that point kwark had me stabilised and I went back in to brawl up the abaddon. Everything got a bit hazy from there but I remember blowing up back on the undock. | ||
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Dacendoran
United States825 Posts
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tmonet
United States172 Posts
On December 07 2010 01:55 KwarK wrote: I don't dual/tribox because I don't think we really need it and a crash with implants could be really annoying. l know I'm inactive but I'll help you out if you want. | ||
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TurpinOS
Canada1223 Posts
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Inzek
Chile802 Posts
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pahndah
1193 Posts
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KwarK
United States42685 Posts
They all mass logged off afterwards. 100 > 230. | ||
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Belgo
United States721 Posts
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
On December 07 2010 02:40 Dacendoran wrote: I dont think you have a spy, but if you do (think that you have a spy) just talk about valuable info in fleet and anyone not in fleet boot from TS and all your problems are solved. Hey luc, do you have a char called dacendroran too? If yes we met in lowsec yesterday! :D | ||
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