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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19151 Posts
February 04 2014 23:54 GMT
#35241
On February 05 2014 07:26 Jochan wrote:
I am looking for some help as a new player. I have a few questions. First some info.
My char is 4 days old, I am Gallente. I've got 300k skill points, I am following this plan with EVEMon. Most of the important stuff is already at lvl3. I've got around 20mil ISK, I fly around in an Algos with drones and I am aiming to get into Vexor drone boat with armor tanking fitting ( I will be able to use it in matter of hours). Now the question. I understand that it is a bit too soon sinking 50% of my money into a ship but I still don't know if I want to pick up the game for real (14 day trial) and I am just doing whatever I feel like and I want a bigger ship. I've spent past 4 days with vast resources of the interwebs opened on my second monitor while I was doing tutorials and sisters of eve epic arch so I think I've got a good grasp on the very basics of EVE. My goal for now is running security missions but I feel like I want to get more into exploring.
Level 1 missions are extremely easy and give me very little ISK, however I can just rush through and salvaging/looting takes way longer than killing stuff.
Level 2 missions are 50/50 they are either very easy or impossible to do (tho I can blitz some in a shuttle) however they are very lucrative in comparison to level 1 stuff. Today I was able to do Recon and level 2 twice with declining the level 3 without standing loss. That's 2x 500k ISK in 10min for a newbie which I think is pretty nice.
I am trying to look for level 2 agents in zones that are 0.5-0.7 and fairly close to my home base which is newbie hub for Gallente.
Should I stick with Level 2 stuff risking decline-look for another agent or grind level 1?
Should I even bother with salvaging stuff if it's not a cruiser/battleship+ ?

hello jochan, my old dayz comrade

first of all, if you want quick money from missions, you want to be doing fw missions. a bomber can do them and takes only a few weeks to train into (and you'll be rolling in millions). Even the l4 Recons you can do in a frig, so you'll probably enjoy that.
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Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
February 05 2014 01:50 GMT
#35242
On February 05 2014 07:26 Jochan wrote:
I am looking for some help as a new player. I have a few questions. First some info.
My char is 4 days old, I am Gallente. I've got 300k skill points, I am following this plan with EVEMon. Most of the important stuff is already at lvl3. I've got around 20mil ISK, I fly around in an Algos with drones and I am aiming to get into Vexor drone boat with armor tanking fitting ( I will be able to use it in matter of hours). Now the question. I understand that it is a bit too soon sinking 50% of my money into a ship but I still don't know if I want to pick up the game for real (14 day trial) and I am just doing whatever I feel like and I want a bigger ship. I've spent past 4 days with vast resources of the interwebs opened on my second monitor while I was doing tutorials and sisters of eve epic arch so I think I've got a good grasp on the very basics of EVE. My goal for now is running security missions but I feel like I want to get more into exploring.
Level 1 missions are extremely easy and give me very little ISK, however I can just rush through and salvaging/looting takes way longer than killing stuff.
Level 2 missions are 50/50 they are either very easy or impossible to do (tho I can blitz some in a shuttle) however they are very lucrative in comparison to level 1 stuff. Today I was able to do Recon and level 2 twice with declining the level 3 without standing loss. That's 2x 500k ISK in 10min for a newbie which I think is pretty nice.
I am trying to look for level 2 agents in zones that are 0.5-0.7 and fairly close to my home base which is newbie hub for Gallente.
Should I stick with Level 2 stuff risking decline-look for another agent or grind level 1?
Should I even bother with salvaging stuff if it's not a cruiser/battleship+ ?


Here is a resource that can help you find agents your area/faction/etc: http://eve-agents.com/

Dotlan is also useful to figure out whether it would be worth your time to use them: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/route

It would also be useful to train the skills Connections, Security Connections, Negotiation, and Social if you plan to keep missioning in the medium to long turn. They will help offset standings loss and give you more ISK and LP per mission.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
February 05 2014 02:05 GMT
#35243
On February 05 2014 08:54 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 07:26 Jochan wrote:
I am looking for some help as a new player. I have a few questions. First some info.
My char is 4 days old, I am Gallente. I've got 300k skill points, I am following this plan with EVEMon. Most of the important stuff is already at lvl3. I've got around 20mil ISK, I fly around in an Algos with drones and I am aiming to get into Vexor drone boat with armor tanking fitting ( I will be able to use it in matter of hours). Now the question. I understand that it is a bit too soon sinking 50% of my money into a ship but I still don't know if I want to pick up the game for real (14 day trial) and I am just doing whatever I feel like and I want a bigger ship. I've spent past 4 days with vast resources of the interwebs opened on my second monitor while I was doing tutorials and sisters of eve epic arch so I think I've got a good grasp on the very basics of EVE. My goal for now is running security missions but I feel like I want to get more into exploring.
Level 1 missions are extremely easy and give me very little ISK, however I can just rush through and salvaging/looting takes way longer than killing stuff.
Level 2 missions are 50/50 they are either very easy or impossible to do (tho I can blitz some in a shuttle) however they are very lucrative in comparison to level 1 stuff. Today I was able to do Recon and level 2 twice with declining the level 3 without standing loss. That's 2x 500k ISK in 10min for a newbie which I think is pretty nice.
I am trying to look for level 2 agents in zones that are 0.5-0.7 and fairly close to my home base which is newbie hub for Gallente.
Should I stick with Level 2 stuff risking decline-look for another agent or grind level 1?
Should I even bother with salvaging stuff if it's not a cruiser/battleship+ ?

hello jochan, my old dayz comrade

first of all, if you want quick money from missions, you want to be doing fw missions. a bomber can do them and takes only a few weeks to train into (and you'll be rolling in millions). Even the l4 Recons you can do in a frig, so you'll probably enjoy that.


Are bomber FW missions better isk than Level 4's in a DPS domi? If so where can I get more info. I just resubbed after being away for a very very long time.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4211 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 02:14:37
February 05 2014 02:14 GMT
#35244
On February 05 2014 11:05 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 08:54 tofucake wrote:
On February 05 2014 07:26 Jochan wrote:
I am looking for some help as a new player. I have a few questions. First some info.
My char is 4 days old, I am Gallente. I've got 300k skill points, I am following this plan with EVEMon. Most of the important stuff is already at lvl3. I've got around 20mil ISK, I fly around in an Algos with drones and I am aiming to get into Vexor drone boat with armor tanking fitting ( I will be able to use it in matter of hours). Now the question. I understand that it is a bit too soon sinking 50% of my money into a ship but I still don't know if I want to pick up the game for real (14 day trial) and I am just doing whatever I feel like and I want a bigger ship. I've spent past 4 days with vast resources of the interwebs opened on my second monitor while I was doing tutorials and sisters of eve epic arch so I think I've got a good grasp on the very basics of EVE. My goal for now is running security missions but I feel like I want to get more into exploring.
Level 1 missions are extremely easy and give me very little ISK, however I can just rush through and salvaging/looting takes way longer than killing stuff.
Level 2 missions are 50/50 they are either very easy or impossible to do (tho I can blitz some in a shuttle) however they are very lucrative in comparison to level 1 stuff. Today I was able to do Recon and level 2 twice with declining the level 3 without standing loss. That's 2x 500k ISK in 10min for a newbie which I think is pretty nice.
I am trying to look for level 2 agents in zones that are 0.5-0.7 and fairly close to my home base which is newbie hub for Gallente.
Should I stick with Level 2 stuff risking decline-look for another agent or grind level 1?
Should I even bother with salvaging stuff if it's not a cruiser/battleship+ ?

hello jochan, my old dayz comrade

first of all, if you want quick money from missions, you want to be doing fw missions. a bomber can do them and takes only a few weeks to train into (and you'll be rolling in millions). Even the l4 Recons you can do in a frig, so you'll probably enjoy that.


Are bomber FW missions better isk than Level 4's in a DPS domi? If so where can I get more info. I just resubbed after being away for a very very long time.

Yes, they are. I haven't done any in months, but last time Minnie hit T5, I was getting over 600 million isk an hour worth of LP..... With just 1 character, and they look to be a lot easier to multibox than regular level 4's.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
February 05 2014 02:24 GMT
#35245
On February 05 2014 11:14 Impervious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 11:05 Esoterikk wrote:
On February 05 2014 08:54 tofucake wrote:
On February 05 2014 07:26 Jochan wrote:
I am looking for some help as a new player. I have a few questions. First some info.
My char is 4 days old, I am Gallente. I've got 300k skill points, I am following this plan with EVEMon. Most of the important stuff is already at lvl3. I've got around 20mil ISK, I fly around in an Algos with drones and I am aiming to get into Vexor drone boat with armor tanking fitting ( I will be able to use it in matter of hours). Now the question. I understand that it is a bit too soon sinking 50% of my money into a ship but I still don't know if I want to pick up the game for real (14 day trial) and I am just doing whatever I feel like and I want a bigger ship. I've spent past 4 days with vast resources of the interwebs opened on my second monitor while I was doing tutorials and sisters of eve epic arch so I think I've got a good grasp on the very basics of EVE. My goal for now is running security missions but I feel like I want to get more into exploring.
Level 1 missions are extremely easy and give me very little ISK, however I can just rush through and salvaging/looting takes way longer than killing stuff.
Level 2 missions are 50/50 they are either very easy or impossible to do (tho I can blitz some in a shuttle) however they are very lucrative in comparison to level 1 stuff. Today I was able to do Recon and level 2 twice with declining the level 3 without standing loss. That's 2x 500k ISK in 10min for a newbie which I think is pretty nice.
I am trying to look for level 2 agents in zones that are 0.5-0.7 and fairly close to my home base which is newbie hub for Gallente.
Should I stick with Level 2 stuff risking decline-look for another agent or grind level 1?
Should I even bother with salvaging stuff if it's not a cruiser/battleship+ ?

hello jochan, my old dayz comrade

first of all, if you want quick money from missions, you want to be doing fw missions. a bomber can do them and takes only a few weeks to train into (and you'll be rolling in millions). Even the l4 Recons you can do in a frig, so you'll probably enjoy that.


Are bomber FW missions better isk than Level 4's in a DPS domi? If so where can I get more info. I just resubbed after being away for a very very long time.

Yes, they are. I haven't done any in months, but last time Minnie hit T5, I was getting over 600 million isk an hour worth of LP..... With just 1 character, and they look to be a lot easier to multibox than regular level 4's.


Interesting, I can fly bombers but haven't since before the changes a while ago.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 04:37:26
February 05 2014 03:02 GMT
#35246


gods apples made a pty good video, watch dudes get wrecked also featuing 100mn cynabal, in my opinion the hardest ship to fly in game (100mn so manual orbits are pretty much required, much more narrow range control requirements, damage / range tradeoff, and active tank management on top of that. the only other ship that compares is 100mn oneiros - think a staggering 12 active slots, 11 requiring heat management, and I'm pretty certain there's only one player in the game that flies that ship)

nothing crazy done with the cynabal but then again the 100mn cynabal just isn't that good a ship. It still is a cynabal after all
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Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
February 05 2014 04:50 GMT
#35247
The maller footage was the best, and certainly at the end with the mobile depot, that shit was hilarious.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
0m3ga
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Serbia322 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 06:03:12
February 05 2014 05:38 GMT
#35248
ty based god 100mn bump ))

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21748428

Got like 20k out of gate.

2nd bump

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21748758

I think people get excited when they see a cynabal ram into their scram range with 0fear then realize its part of the masterplan
Don't you ever gf me back -Chessur
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
February 05 2014 06:05 GMT
#35249
On February 05 2014 14:38 0m3ga wrote:
ty based god 100mn bump ))

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21748428

Got like 20k out of gate.

2nd bump

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21748758

I think people get excited when they see a cynabal ram into their scram range with 0fear then realize its part of the masterplan

[image loading]

Nicely done.

Steven Case is very honorable and you should feel bad for blobbing him though.
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SilentchiLL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany1405 Posts
February 05 2014 06:51 GMT
#35250
On February 05 2014 15:05 419 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 14:38 0m3ga wrote:
ty based god 100mn bump ))

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21748428

Got like 20k out of gate.

2nd bump

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21748758

I think people get excited when they see a cynabal ram into their scram range with 0fear then realize its part of the masterplan

[image loading]

Nicely done.

Steven Case is very honorable and you should feel bad for blobbing him though.


Sponourable
possum, sed nolo - Real men play random. ___ "Who the fuck is Kyle?!" C*****EX
Jones Hawkwood
Profile Joined September 2013
Belgium54 Posts
February 05 2014 11:15 GMT
#35251
On February 05 2014 00:38 KwarK wrote:
He's explaining how opportunity cost means if you sink 137b of liquid isk into assets and those assets don't appreciate at all then no loss has been incurred by doing so.


I've just read the posts. Goon forum warriors are special snowflakes it would seem.
0m3ga
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Serbia322 Posts
February 05 2014 16:05 GMT
#35252
On February 05 2014 15:05 419 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 14:38 0m3ga wrote:
ty based god 100mn bump ))

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21748428

Got like 20k out of gate.

2nd bump

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21748758

I think people get excited when they see a cynabal ram into their scram range with 0fear then realize its part of the masterplan

[image loading]

Nicely done.

Steven Case is very honorable and you should feel bad for blobbing him though.


The sensation of bumping, is just unique! Seeing the little red boxes touch briefly then followed by an abismal movement is something all pilots should experience, specially on the undock/gate
Don't you ever gf me back -Chessur
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43212 Posts
February 05 2014 17:03 GMT
#35253
Man goons are so retarded and so full of a bizarre sense of superiority despite the average line member being as dumb, if not more dumb, than the average eve member. Interacting with them is painful.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
February 05 2014 17:54 GMT
#35254
On February 06 2014 02:03 KwarK wrote:
Man goons are so retarded and so full of a bizarre sense of superiority despite the average line member being as dumb, if not more dumb, than the average eve member. Interacting with them is painful.

Wait, youre just noticing now? After being in the CFC for a year? After fighting them for more than two years? :|
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
February 05 2014 18:00 GMT
#35255
SUPERIOR INTELLIGENT EVE PLAYERBASE
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43212 Posts
February 05 2014 18:04 GMT
#35256
Never actually posted on their forums before now. Don't think I'll do it again.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
February 05 2014 20:22 GMT
#35257
The intelligence in Goonswarm has always been highly concentrated at the very top - Mittens has the brains. Other people? Not so much. And I'm sure Mittens has his moments, too.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
hagon
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom556 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 21:54:50
February 05 2014 21:51 GMT
#35258
On February 06 2014 05:22 felisconcolori wrote:
The intelligence in Goonswarm has always been highly concentrated at the very top - Mittens has the brains. Other people? Not so much. And I'm sure Mittens has his moments, too.


i love that you think mittani does that much (he doesn't). though the vast bulk of the membership is so ignorant and stupid that if you're ever on coms with them it is something like physical pain. leadership makes some pretty dodgy descions as well sometimes.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
February 05 2014 21:56 GMT
#35259
shoutout to no chatter subchannels
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 06 2014 01:16 GMT
#35260
They're just competent enough to appear competent.
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