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Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
February 07 2013 18:07 GMT
#28941
I really like the simplified T2 requirements as well, I understand that it should take awhile to fly something like a command ship but at the same time requiring Assault and Heavy Assault ships seemed unnecessary

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Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 19:41:05
February 07 2013 18:35 GMT
#28942
I am debating if I want to train Gall BS V now (so I can fly a Moros in early March as I have all other necessary skills for the Moros trained) or if I want to just train more support skills (hurray Capital Hybrids V!) while waiting for the skill changes to happen.
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
Invol2ver
Profile Joined September 2010
United States330 Posts
February 07 2013 18:47 GMT
#28943
Definitely going to make a point of getting Command Ships skilled up before this drops. The change from needing HAC skills to needing lots of charisma skills is going to end up soaking up a lot more training time unless you're willing to remap charisma.

That kinda sucks, but I have more than enough time so...meh.
Losing money is less good than making it, confirm?
Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
February 07 2013 18:52 GMT
#28944
When do the summer expansions generally drop?

And to my earlier question about if this skill change would shave ~a month off training a dread/super carrier alt, it looks like training time will remain the same for Dreads, because of Tactical weapon reconfig being substituted as a prereq instead of racial BC V :/
Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
February 07 2013 19:00 GMT
#28945
So, to maximize our skill points, we want All Racial Cruise 3, BC V, All racial Frig 3, Destroyers V, and to put at least a point in any T2 thing you can fly before they add support requirements.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44398 Posts
February 07 2013 19:01 GMT
#28946
Yes.
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Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
February 07 2013 19:40 GMT
#28947
On February 08 2013 04:00 Mysticus wrote:
So, to maximize our skill points, we want All Racial Cruise 3, BC V, All racial Frig 3, Destroyers V, and to put at least a point in any T2 thing you can fly before they add support requirements.

You need Racial Frig to IV for the BC skill points, as you need it to sit in BCs.
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
February 07 2013 19:43 GMT
#28948
T2 things people will want to get are AF's, HACs, recon, command ships, anything else?
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19264 Posts
February 07 2013 19:57 GMT
#28949
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Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 20:14:49
February 07 2013 20:09 GMT
#28950
On February 08 2013 04:43 Firebolt145 wrote:
T2 things people will want to get are AF's, HACs, recon, command ships, anything else?


Quick question; was this a general statement or aimed at people who already have partially met the current pre-reqs to fly T2 ships?

For instance, since the skill requirements will change but training time will stay roughly the same for all T2, would it even make a difference to try to get all the skills required to inject a skill like Command Ships for someone like me who can fly sit in all sub-BS T1 ships currently, but in order to even inject Command Ships would have to skill AF V and HAC V?

Edit: I'm an idiot and need to check EVEMon before posting dumb questions. Apparently to inject Command Ships you don't need AF/HAC V

I'm gonna try to inject the 5 T2 skills you guys listed, I'm actually not that far from being able to do it.
solsken
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden182 Posts
February 07 2013 20:14 GMT
#28951
This is for the summer expansion?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
February 07 2013 20:17 GMT
#28952
No, for next week.
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tooDARKpark
Profile Joined June 2011
United States149 Posts
February 07 2013 20:34 GMT
#28953
On February 08 2013 05:14 solsken wrote:
This is for the summer expansion?


Depends on what you are asking. BC rebalance on Feb 12. Skill split for summer expansion. At least that's how I read it.
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
February 07 2013 20:37 GMT
#28954
On February 08 2013 05:34 tooDARKpark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 05:14 solsken wrote:
This is for the summer expansion?


Depends on what you are asking. BC rebalance on Feb 12. Skill split for summer expansion. At least that's how I read it.

Fozzie stated in the thread that no Skill changes will happen on the 12th
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 21:05:16
February 07 2013 21:00 GMT
#28955
On February 08 2013 05:37 Shootemup. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 05:34 tooDARKpark wrote:
On February 08 2013 05:14 solsken wrote:
This is for the summer expansion?


Depends on what you are asking. BC rebalance on Feb 12. Skill split for summer expansion. At least that's how I read it.

Fozzie stated in the thread that no Skill changes will happen on the 12th


As far as I can tell Tier 1 & 2 BC re-balance is going to be part of Retribution 1.1. I'm not sure if that's scheduled for Feb 12th or not.

If you meant Destroyer/BC skill split & T2 pre-req, you're right; those won't go live until Summer 2013 expansion:

Since the last couple of pages were people asking about the skill split, you can find the defintive answer at the bottom of the Dev Blog:

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=74234

Sealing the deal

All of this will happen for the Summer 2013 expansion. That’s a lot to take on, which is why we wanted to give you as much of an advance notice as possible so you can react accordingly. We do hope this will clear any confusion on the matter – all of this is final and should not change at this point.


Edit: To go along with the BC re-balance, I was wondering if the vets thought the Cyclone will be a viable alternative to the Drake for people in Shield Battery to transition to if they've invested in getting T2 HAM's for fleets? Will the Drake nerf be as bad as everyone who posts on EVE-O forums think it will be to make enough of a difference?
Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 21:06:55
February 07 2013 21:05 GMT
#28956
double post
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 21:26:19
February 07 2013 21:20 GMT
#28957
On February 08 2013 06:00 Omigawa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 05:37 Shootemup. wrote:
On February 08 2013 05:34 tooDARKpark wrote:
On February 08 2013 05:14 solsken wrote:
This is for the summer expansion?


Depends on what you are asking. BC rebalance on Feb 12. Skill split for summer expansion. At least that's how I read it.

Fozzie stated in the thread that no Skill changes will happen on the 12th


As far as I can tell Tier 1 & 2 BC re-balance is going to be part of Retribution 1.1. I'm not sure if that's scheduled for Feb 12th or not.

If you meant Destroyer/BC skill split & T2 pre-req, you're right; those won't go live until Summer 2013 expansion:

Since the last couple of pages were people asking about the skill split, you can find the defintive answer at the bottom of the Dev Blog:

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=74234

Show nested quote +
Sealing the deal

All of this will happen for the Summer 2013 expansion. That’s a lot to take on, which is why we wanted to give you as much of an advance notice as possible so you can react accordingly. We do hope this will clear any confusion on the matter – all of this is final and should not change at this point.


Edit: To go along with the BC re-balance, I was wondering if the vets thought the Cyclone will be a viable alternative to the Drake for people in Shield Battery to transition to if they've invested in getting T2 HAM's for fleets? Will the Drake nerf be as bad as everyone who posts on EVE-O forums think it will be to make enough of a difference?

HAM Drakes and Cyclones don't have the range to nano, but Caracals are all the rage in Shield Battery so it's hardly like missile skills are completely irrelevant for TL fleets.
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
February 07 2013 21:32 GMT
#28958
I just assumed that since SB has a lot of noobs that eventually we'd be transitioning out of Cruisers and into something bigger. I'm fine with Caracals tbh, I was just wondering if we had planned anything as a transition and if so wanted to get to training that once I've maxed out the Caracal skills
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 21:42:29
February 07 2013 21:39 GMT
#28959
On February 08 2013 06:32 Omigawa wrote:
I just assumed that since SB has a lot of noobs that eventually we'd be transitioning out of Cruisers and into something bigger. I'm fine with Caracals tbh, I was just wondering if we had planned anything as a transition and if so wanted to get to training that once I've maxed out the Caracal skills

Caracals are cheap as chips and are really good nano boats, and cruisers in general are really good for nano. The FCs of SB would be the ones to ask about what to train for fleets. Knowing Hatchery members though what will probably happen is that they will run the same fleet concept over and over until CCP nerfs it.
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44398 Posts
February 07 2013 21:39 GMT
#28960
Do we know when summer is exactly? I have toons training that I don't really want to remap until I have to that can't finish all of their int/mems in time to get this done. I need to cut off some int/mems and train them on a per/wp or alternatively get all of the bc and dessie and shit done on an int/mem. Which is better depends on how much int/mem I'd need to cut which ultimately depends upon the date.
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