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thalim90
Profile Joined April 2012
United States68 Posts
May 09 2012 18:33 GMT
#22061
Kwark and whoever's into character trading - where/how did you learn the general value of each specific skill? I was planning to go into this but feel a bit overwhelmed as to where to start and how to pick out good characters. I'm starting to try and reverse engineer the process from Kwark's posts.
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Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
May 09 2012 18:35 GMT
#22062
I know it sounds impossible, but some fleets actually require their pilots not to use anchors and actually fly and align by themselves. It is very hard for some people.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44285 Posts
May 09 2012 18:38 GMT
#22063
On May 10 2012 03:33 thalim90 wrote:
Kwark and whoever's into character trading - where/how did you learn the general value of each specific skill? I was planning to go into this but feel a bit overwhelmed as to where to start and how to pick out good characters. I'm starting to try and reverse engineer the process from Kwark's posts.

You don't value it per skill. You look for sets which act as multipliers on base SP amounts and the potential to complete sets that aren't already completed for fixup toons. An example of a set could be loki, cybernetics V, skirmish warfare spec V and warfare link spec V for obvious reasons.
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Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
May 09 2012 19:18 GMT
#22064
You do what KwarK said and then identify trends.

Once you have a good idea what a character is and what it could be, you try and identify how much you could sell it for based on similar toons in recent days.

Or you can do what KwarK and I usually do which is pick up a character based on what it could be, but end up selling it for stupid profit early because someone wanted to buy a pilot that could be something and paid a premium for it.
Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
May 09 2012 19:23 GMT
#22065
On May 10 2012 04:18 Mysticus wrote:
You do what KwarK said and then identify trends.

Once you have a good idea what a character is and what it could be, you try and identify how much you could sell it for based on similar toons in recent days.

Or you can do what KwarK and I usually do which is pick up a character based on what it could be, but end up selling it for stupid profit early because someone wanted to buy a pilot that could be something and paid a premium for it.


For instance, I bought a perfect hulk/near perfect orca booster for 4.5b. I intended to train it to be a perfect orca and if needed a starter rorqual (had the processing skills required). My baseline goal for profit for any character I buy is around 500mil a week. That is, if I buy a character right now I want to make 500 mil on my investment for every week I own the toon. A little over two weeks into owning this character, someone posts on the forums they are looking for an orca booster for a new mining fleet, I present the character as a near perfect booster and a perfect hulk pilot, I collect 1.5b profit when i sell for 7b.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3373 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 19:43:51
May 09 2012 19:43 GMT
#22066
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wat
Alt: Interesting
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
May 09 2012 19:47 GMT
#22067
Those should replace current ECM.

Falcons fixed (kind of)
Skibat
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland161 Posts
May 09 2012 20:19 GMT
#22068
not really fixed, that's more for blob warfare since it is increased when there are more people targeting you
Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 20:34:46
May 09 2012 20:28 GMT
#22069
I now own two oracle pilots.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Adedaughtus

edit: I wonder how many oracles we can actually field at this point? KwarK is at like 7-8 alone.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44285 Posts
May 09 2012 21:05 GMT
#22070
Ueberlisk, when you see this can you ship me 80b to X ATM092. Usual rates.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44285 Posts
May 09 2012 21:06 GMT
#22071
Nice toon, what'd you pay? Accel/controlled/thermo/nanite skills/drug skills are your priorities if you intend to fly it.
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nonentity
Profile Joined March 2012
160 Posts
May 09 2012 21:26 GMT
#22072
On May 10 2012 02:50 TomatoShark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 13:33 abominare wrote:
On May 09 2012 12:59 nonentity wrote:
Stopped reading when he said making a billion a week required large amounts of effort.

EagleNoFace is an excellent name tho.


Unrelated, guess what happened to me this morning;

http://tuskers.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13313393

Bloody Russians.



Indeed its as if it was written several years ago and hasnt been updated!



sucks man should of tried to gun down a few more bombers with the double webs?


Falcon (Recon ship)



Annoyingly, was slowly, slowly pulling range on the drake after the cyno went up cos he'd failed to point me for some reason. Got scrammed as hit 8.5km...


Also, infinite range ECM burst?

Still fixes nothing in current ECM mechanics, but does I think indicate the direction they want to go in. Ytterbium was saying something similar on Kil2/Kovorix's latest podcast. Worth listening to it just for the sadface making; on grid links good, local active battleships good, nano bad. Waaah it's not 2006 anymore! But Ytterbium does at least almost admit that just making links on grid only is a stupid idea.
Learn how to play EvE and join me at my stream at www.twitch.tv/TawaSuyo666 - aimed at Furball171, but feel free to troll anyway!
TomatoShark
Profile Joined August 2011
United States288 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 21:38:32
May 09 2012 21:37 GMT
#22073
scumbag falcon =/. Man if only the falcon was not there and you had 425's with double webs oh the stealth bomber tears
Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 22:42:40
May 09 2012 22:35 GMT
#22074
On May 10 2012 06:06 KwarK wrote:
Nice toon, what'd you pay? Accel/controlled/thermo/nanite skills/drug skills are your priorities if you intend to fly it.


Yeah, navigation//shield//drugs are what I am going to start him on. I got him for 5b.

Current Perc/Will, 2 bonus remaps. I'll have some fun and flip him for 8+ in a month or two

Edit: Probably going to finish Rapid Firing, get Accel Control to 4, Controlled bursts 5, then remap Int/Mem or Int/Perc and start with supports/finish navigation.

All the big skills are pretty much 4d or 5d out, his supports just need work.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44285 Posts
May 09 2012 22:50 GMT
#22075
Drug skills are an awful investment in terms of reselling but are absolutely essential for flying oracle btw. Will have to decide how badly you want to fly it with them. 5 for that is a steal though.
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Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 22:56:19
May 09 2012 22:55 GMT
#22076
He might be one I keep around for awhile. Haven't decided yet. My other recent Amarr purchase is slogging through Large Energy Turrets 5 so I can't hit the field with him (at least in an oracle) for another 20 days or so.

Edit: How important is controlled Bursts 5?
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19253 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 23:11:28
May 09 2012 23:11 GMT
#22077
It's a rank 2
5 it
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44285 Posts
May 09 2012 23:11 GMT
#22078
The oracle is cap unstable with maxed cap skills, controlled bursts and just guns on. Mwd too makes it very cap unstable. Anything you can do to mitigate that helps.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44285 Posts
May 10 2012 00:13 GMT
#22079
I need to borrow some isk. Can anyone help out? Region of 10-15b.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19253 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 00:43:30
May 10 2012 00:43 GMT
#22080
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